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girl gone mad

(20,634 posts)
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 09:55 PM Apr 2012

Greece special report

If you really want to know what the Greece crisis is all about, economist Yanis Varoufakis, who appeared on 60 minutes last Sunday, put this excellent piece together for Channel 4 News in February. Learn why profligacy is not to blame and austerity is not the solution:

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Greece special report (Original Post) girl gone mad Apr 2012 OP
This deserves much more views. dixiegrrrrl Apr 2012 #1
I agree. More people ought to see this. nt Mojorabbit Apr 2012 #2
I'm afraid his "simple" 3-step solution is far from simple. Prometheus Bound Apr 2012 #3
It would not be inflationary. girl gone mad Apr 2012 #4
The ECB's balance sheet is already over 3 trillion euros. Prometheus Bound Apr 2012 #5
Money is not real. bemildred Apr 2012 #6
Yes, that seems to be the attitude. Prometheus Bound Apr 2012 #7
Nobody with money has an interest in crashing the system. bemildred Apr 2012 #9
So where is the inflation? girl gone mad Apr 2012 #8
Debt is the worst possible solution of all choices golfguru Apr 2012 #11
Pathetic results in Europe golfguru Apr 2012 #10
Yes, thanks for summing up the harebrained neoliberal view. n/t girl gone mad Apr 2012 #12

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
1. This deserves much more views.
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 09:52 PM
Apr 2012

Would you consider cross posting in the Video/Images forum also??

Max Keiser has had this guy on his show a couple of times, talking about Greece. Quite educational.

Prometheus Bound

(3,489 posts)
3. I'm afraid his "simple" 3-step solution is far from simple.
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 06:24 AM
Apr 2012

Three step solution:
1. Unify Europe's banking sector and recapitalise its the banks forcefully.
2. Centralise a large part of the Eurozone's public debt via the ECB.
3. Use the EIB to shift idle savings into productive investment in the countries that need it most.

I know he sounds a like a serious man, but only inflationary printing of trillions of Euros can accomplish that.

girl gone mad

(20,634 posts)
4. It would not be inflationary.
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 06:03 PM
Apr 2012

The goal is to reverse the debt deflation cycle caused by mass deleveraging to avoid more widespread depression. The inflation already occurred when the banks created a private debt bubble. The ECB must step in to provide stability as any true central bank would, otherwise there is no point in having a monetary union at all.

Prometheus Bound

(3,489 posts)
5. The ECB's balance sheet is already over 3 trillion euros.
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 06:35 PM
Apr 2012

And in the most recent 1.3 trillion expansion the quality of collateral it accepted from banks of very low quality according to former European Central Bank Executive Board Member Juergen Stark. I take that to mean worthless shit.

So they have definitely stepped in (to save the European banks). How long can they keep that up, before the Germans go ballistic and/or people lose confidence in the ECB because of its non-performing balance sheet.


Prometheus Bound

(3,489 posts)
7. Yes, that seems to be the attitude.
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 06:49 PM
Apr 2012

And as long as we all believe, it holds together. Well, to some extent.

But when people stop believing, the carnage will be terrible.

I guess, finally, we're not far from that point, though I'm constantly amazed at how long this can-kicking shtick can go on.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
9. Nobody with money has an interest in crashing the system.
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 06:59 PM
Apr 2012

So I am not much concerned about how they play with the money supply. I worry about real world issues like the environment, and the crap they sell us as "food", and the ludicrous foreign policy we have pursued these last 60 years and seem so unwilling to give up no matter how much money it requires us to "create" from nothing, and the failure of our economy to distribute goods and services where they are needed.

girl gone mad

(20,634 posts)
8. So where is the inflation?
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 06:54 PM
Apr 2012

The ECB should do precisely what central banks were created to do: monetize the Eurozone public deficits to increase money available to the private sector. More private debts will need to be written down, but the impact can be mitigated through appropriate government spending calibrated to restore full employment.

 

golfguru

(4,987 posts)
11. Debt is the worst possible solution of all choices
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 07:27 PM
Apr 2012

I can't think of any country which has achieved long term prosperity by going into massive debt. Ditto for individuals for that matter when debt is incurred for consumption.

 

golfguru

(4,987 posts)
10. Pathetic results in Europe
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 07:22 PM
Apr 2012

editing typo's


UNemployment in European countries: Spain (23.6pc), Greece (21pc), Portugal (15pc), Ireland (14.7pc) and Slovakia (14pc).

Can't blame it on anything else except overly generous social benefits which their
economies can not afford. Here in Oregon it is the same problem, the PERS program
(public employees retirement system) guaranteed 8% return on retirement funds for
ever. When stock market was going up, it was fine but then disaster struck and the
state is in dire straits now.

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