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"How Could You Not Know..." (Original Post) Owlet Mar 2012 OP
It's really simple, isn't it? 1monster Mar 2012 #1
He is absolutely right. Warpy Mar 2012 #2
With the ISDA as Backstop, Default will NEVER Occur Demeter Mar 2012 #3
I am reading right now "Too Big To Fail" about the "inside story" of the bailouts dixiegrrrrl Mar 2012 #4
I can't do anything about my state pension..... AnneD Mar 2012 #5
Sorkin is an apologist. Fuddnik Mar 2012 #6
ahhh...I was suspecting as much. dixiegrrrrl Mar 2012 #7

Warpy

(111,277 posts)
2. He is absolutely right.
Sun Mar 4, 2012, 06:24 PM
Mar 2012

The AIG bailout was 100% to keep the CDS game going, the big casino where the biggest cash payouts are on the riskiest bets that have nothing at all behind them.

At some point the whole derivatives market is going to collapse: nothing is holding it up except bets and counter bets by a bunch of men whose wealth is expressed by the number of bets they have on the table, which is basically what a hedge fund is these days. When the derivatives market collapses, it's going to take nearly everything with it including pensions, banks, and governments along with the hedge fund masters of the universe.

It will likely be triggered by something really minor. And how could we not know?

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
3. With the ISDA as Backstop, Default will NEVER Occur
Sun Mar 4, 2012, 08:22 PM
Mar 2012

It will take a bloody revolution to unwind this ponzi scheme. And a return of Madame La Guillotine.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
4. I am reading right now "Too Big To Fail" about the "inside story" of the bailouts
Mon Mar 5, 2012, 11:41 AM
Mar 2012

and still trying to decide if the author, Aaron Ross Sorkin, is an apologist for the banksters.
Haven't got far enough to decide yet.
But...the book covers the Lehman bankruptcy and AIG and BOA buying Merrill Lynch, from the viewpoint of the men ( all men, of course, now women banksters) involved.

Indeed, the issue with AIG was that it HAD provided insurance on the banks, and when it looked as if ALL the banks might go down,
AIG would have gone down too, since it of course had insufficient reserves to pay claims.

On a personal note, my retirement annuity was with AIG for years, that was the way the job had it set up.
I was SO fortunate that I could pull it out in April of 2008, when I found out AIG and banks were having trouble.
and damned if the bank had not set up my CDs with Lehman!!!!
Got them back, too, in the nick of time.

AnneD

(15,774 posts)
5. I can't do anything about my state pension.....
Mon Mar 5, 2012, 12:34 PM
Mar 2012

but I have gotten my things out in the nick of time on more than one occasion.

Fuddnik

(8,846 posts)
6. Sorkin is an apologist.
Mon Mar 5, 2012, 02:22 PM
Mar 2012

Try "The Big Short" by Michael Lewis or "Griftopia" by Taibbi for starters.

Actually, AIG had no intention of paying. They didn't care less about reserves.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
7. ahhh...I was suspecting as much.
Mon Mar 5, 2012, 03:15 PM
Mar 2012

Thanks for the info.
Lewis and Taibbi are always good writers, I have most of their books.
Actually, I have so many darn books that I spend more time keeping track of them than reading them!

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