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TexasPaganDem

(42 posts)
Mon Apr 23, 2012, 09:35 PM Apr 2012

Changes to school History Books in Texas. No more Thomas Jefferson.

Last edited Tue Apr 24, 2012, 12:19 AM - Edit history (1)

DUMMERSTON, Vt. -- The late, great Molly Ivins famously called Texas "the laboratory for bad government," and what the Texas State Board of Education did last week reinforces that notion.

By a 9-5 vote along party line, the conservative majority on the board adopted a set of social studies curriculum standards for Texas students that by any objective standard constitute educational malpractice.

How else would one explain the decision to remove references to Thomas Jefferson from the state's history books? It's true that Jefferson is not a conservative hero, since he coined the term "separation between church and state." But to have John Calvin and Sir William Blackstone replace our nation's third president in discussions about the ideas on which this country was founded - at least in Texas classrooms - is absurd.

It's a pretty big stretch to take the author of the Declaration of Independence and one the most influential political philosophers in American history out of the textbooks. But the board's far-right faction was just getting warmed up. The new curriculum also drops references to the slave trade in favor of the more innocuous "Atlantic triangular trade." It asserts the "right to keep and bear arms" is an important element of a democratic society.

http://www.american-reporter.com/4,446/442.html

And Texas, of course, being one of the biggest text book buyers heavily influences books bought through out the country. What is wrong with these people? They removed all references to the word "democratic" when describing the government? WTH?

EDIT: For clarification, these changes are above and beyond the changes that were made in 2010, which is the last time we (Texas) was put on the map for stupid stuff.
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Changes to school History Books in Texas. No more Thomas Jefferson. (Original Post) TexasPaganDem Apr 2012 OP
They ARE going to secede, right? pscot Apr 2012 #1
The USA should hand Texas back to Mexico! Yavapai Apr 2012 #3
Mexico wouldn't take them. provis99 Apr 2012 #11
Absolutely hysterical that the town is named Dummerston. How dumb are Dummerstans? snagglepuss Apr 2012 #2
Skeered yet? LASlibinSC Apr 2012 #4
Let me borrow an image from Dr. Phil Plait of Bad Astronomy fame: LongTomH Apr 2012 #5
These people have allowed their hatred to drive them insane... jimlup Apr 2012 #6
But the teabaggers are always quoting Jefferson proud2BlibKansan Apr 2012 #7
Aw, this came out a couple of years ago to some protest, I see the wackos got their way. freshwest Apr 2012 #8
Unfortunately... TexasPaganDem Apr 2012 #15
"we ended the Korean War by dropping a nuke"? Really? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2012 #19
I'm certain there's a good reason for this... WillParkinson Apr 2012 #9
This is actually an old story from 2010. berni_mccoy Apr 2012 #10
So are these books already in use in TX? lunasun Apr 2012 #13
Nope, this is a new round of stupidity. TexasPaganDem Apr 2012 #16
Get ready for the Inquisition. JDPriestly Apr 2012 #12
also.... atheous Apr 2012 #14
You forget Jesús and his pet dinosaur. Don't leave that out. I don't recognize this country anymore. freshwest Apr 2012 #17
I think that's child abuse. SunSeeker Apr 2012 #18
Virginia will probably say Monticello doesn't exist anymore now. just1voice Apr 2012 #20
As a Texas social studies teacher for 3 decades, I can assure you that teachers mbperrin Apr 2012 #21
i think you're overly optimistic. already a high percentage of texas teachers are coming in through HiPointDem May 2012 #22
Oh, long term, you're right. mbperrin May 2012 #23
paid million for copies you make yourself? wow. HiPointDem May 2012 #24
Yes, the district paid $8 million dollars for access to the program, which then mbperrin May 2012 #25
 

Yavapai

(825 posts)
3. The USA should hand Texas back to Mexico!
Mon Apr 23, 2012, 09:46 PM
Apr 2012

Am rather sure they could run it better than the people Texans keep electing.

What is the difference between GOP Texans and a wet saddle?

Nothing, they both chaff your ass!

 

provis99

(13,062 posts)
11. Mexico wouldn't take them.
Mon Apr 23, 2012, 11:24 PM
Apr 2012

They're thinking that losing Texas to the US is the best thing that ever happened to them.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
6. These people have allowed their hatred to drive them insane...
Mon Apr 23, 2012, 10:03 PM
Apr 2012

And we don't care because it is us whom they hate.

Sorry reptilians in Texas (with apologies to real snakes and lizards) you are on your own!

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
8. Aw, this came out a couple of years ago to some protest, I see the wackos got their way.
Mon Apr 23, 2012, 10:34 PM
Apr 2012

Definitely not the text books I grew up. Yep, at one time Texas was much more progressive than the younger generation will ever know. And then...

TexasPaganDem

(42 posts)
15. Unfortunately...
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 12:17 AM
Apr 2012

This is the new and improved version of text book revision in Texas. They did try it before in 2010, but those books were ultimately (mostly) rejected for information like we ended the Korean War by dropping a nuke.

WillParkinson

(16,862 posts)
9. I'm certain there's a good reason for this...
Mon Apr 23, 2012, 11:04 PM
Apr 2012

I mean, it definitely will help create jobs, right? Or it'll help the environment?

Hatred is ugly.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
12. Get ready for the Inquisition.
Mon Apr 23, 2012, 11:26 PM
Apr 2012

That's what these right-wingers are working toward. Get rid of science. Rewrite history.

Fundamentalism. Fascism combined with religious fanaticism. What a nightmare.

 

atheous

(37 posts)
14. also....
Mon Apr 23, 2012, 11:58 PM
Apr 2012

Grass will now be referred to as "That brown cruchy stuff in your front yard" and it's always 120 in the shade in Santa Clauseland....on a boat...in the Arctic Ocean...because gubner Ricky says it's good for elves.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
17. You forget Jesús and his pet dinosaur. Don't leave that out. I don't recognize this country anymore.
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 12:27 AM
Apr 2012

SunSeeker

(51,617 posts)
18. I think that's child abuse.
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 12:32 AM
Apr 2012

Forcing kids to memorize these crazy, hateful and incredibly self-desructive ideas is wrong on so many levels.

 

just1voice

(1,362 posts)
20. Virginia will probably say Monticello doesn't exist anymore now.
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 03:34 PM
Apr 2012

Virginia repukes will flap their lips and spew any lie in the world and fully expect people to believe it.

mbperrin

(7,672 posts)
21. As a Texas social studies teacher for 3 decades, I can assure you that teachers
Wed Apr 25, 2012, 11:48 PM
Apr 2012

will continue to teach that a) kids, here's the nonsense you need to pass the TAKS, TEAMS, TAAS, STAAR, or other corporate-desired and enriching evaluation, and b) kids, here are the actual facts you need to live by.

Require whatever, but when that door closes, instruction is still in the hands of the teacher.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
22. i think you're overly optimistic. already a high percentage of texas teachers are coming in through
Thu May 3, 2012, 05:30 AM
May 2012

alternative certifications, some of them none too rigorous. when the generation that gets taught in the "no-jefferson" classrooms goes to become teachers in their alternative certification programs leading to their charter schools, who knows what they'll be teaching? especially when books gradually disappear and information comes through easily rewritten electronic media with a "pay to play" ethos.

mbperrin

(7,672 posts)
23. Oh, long term, you're right.
Thu May 3, 2012, 05:51 PM
May 2012

Until we demand actual training and critical thinking, we're in danger.

That's what this CSCOPE nonsense is all about - it completely eliminates textbooks and uses only copies of stuff off the Internet. Our own district paid millions for it.

mbperrin

(7,672 posts)
25. Yes, the district paid $8 million dollars for access to the program, which then
Sat May 5, 2012, 12:30 PM
May 2012

requires teachers to make copies of the online materials, including all reading, because CSCOPE eliminates the use of textbooks as well.

So everything that students see, write on, or keep comes from a copy machine at the school.

One math teacher has a 4" 3 ring binder of the materials for her course. Multiply that by her 150 students, and you have a 50 foot tall stack of paper for one teacher for one course. We have 2,000 teachers in all here.

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