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Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 01:47 PM Jul 2013

Has Bill Gates Purchased the Teachers Unions?

Frankly, it does seem that way to me.

Some profoundly disturbing ruminations.

The Raging Horse Rages:


Without his 6o billion dollars, all of Gate’s fascistic ideas would be greeted with silence or a horselaugh and Mr. Gates would be considered a clown in the unlikely case he would be considered at all. With his 60 billion, Mr. Gates is the unelected, unaccountable Emperor of American Education. That is to say, public education, as Mr. Gates, like virtually all the education reformers, would never dream of subjecting his children or their teachers to the degrading, idiotic and debasing schemes he demands for our kids and their teachers.

Mr. Gates has spent the last decade simultaneously undermining and purchasing teacher unions, particularly the two largest, the National Education Association led by Dennis Roekel and American Federation of Teachers led by Randi Weingarten. Teacher unions were created to fight the very kind of imposition and degrading demands that Gates is implementing and forever proposing. Gates has made no secret of his contempt for teachers, even to the place of roaming the county suggesting their measly pensions are far too high.

Despite all this, both the National Education Association and the American Federation of Teachers, instead of ceaselessly pointing out to their members the danger of Mr. Gates and his kind, not merely to their profession but to a semblance of democracy itself, have repeatedly pretended that they can work Gates and all will be fine. Alternatively, they say stuff like, things are changing and unions must change with them.
This sort of defeated without a fight rubbish.
Privately, they insist they have no choice but to “work with this man.”
http://raginghorse.wordpress.com/2013/07/03/bill-gates-continues-to-purchase-major-teacher-unions-and-at-discount-rates/

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Has Bill Gates Purchased the Teachers Unions? (Original Post) Smarmie Doofus Jul 2013 OP
http://raginghorse.wordpress.com/2013/07/ NYC_SKP Jul 2013 #1
Yes. duffyduff Jul 2013 #2
Easier said than done. In previous generations, corrupt union leadership... Smarmie Doofus Jul 2013 #6
only the leadership roody Jul 2013 #3
Where's my check? proud2BlibKansan Jul 2013 #4
yes, the leadership. or rather, he doesn't exactly have to 'buy' them because they're already HiPointDem Jul 2013 #5
Weingarten's being a plant was obvious all along duffyduff Jul 2013 #8
At least some of the leadership, anyway. LWolf Jul 2013 #7
what do you mean, 'heard much of the above locally'? you mean about dvr, or about your HiPointDem Jul 2013 #9
This is not something that I am going to LWolf Jul 2013 #11
Teachers don't have a prayer in hell surviving as a professional group duffyduff Jul 2013 #12
Yes. LWolf Jul 2013 #13
Organize and start standing up to them, even risking everything to do it duffyduff Jul 2013 #14
I've already suffered professional consequences. LWolf Jul 2013 #15
True. There are plenty in your position and TPTB know this. Smarmie Doofus Jul 2013 #16
People, opposition has to start from somewhere duffyduff Jul 2013 #18
I'm not counseling inaction. I'm counseling, prudent, planned... Smarmie Doofus Jul 2013 #20
It isn't rocket science what is going on with NEA/AFT duffyduff Jul 2013 #21
"Cunning as serpents" LWolf Jul 2013 #22
I AM a 50-something former teacher who was illegally fired duffyduff Jul 2013 #19
My heart goes out to you. LWolf Jul 2013 #23
It's a terrible state of affairs, isn't it? duffyduff Jul 2013 #24
ok, i was just unclear on your meaning. HiPointDem Jul 2013 #17
Of course not. Paid for? Igel Jul 2013 #10
 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
6. Easier said than done. In previous generations, corrupt union leadership...
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 08:35 PM
Jul 2013

... was prosecuted by the gov't. Does that ever happen any more?

We'll be waiting a long time before these people allow themselves to be voted out.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
5. yes, the leadership. or rather, he doesn't exactly have to 'buy' them because they're already
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 08:11 PM
Jul 2013

bought, whether with money, power, or their own delight in being part of the 'people who matter'.

it's so damn obvious, if you don't believe it you're blind.

in randi's case, her history looks like she was a plant from day 1.

 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
8. Weingarten's being a plant was obvious all along
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 02:26 PM
Jul 2013

Just a few months of contracted teaching experience plus some substitute teaching while spending most of her time being a lawyer.

Not qualified to head a union.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
7. At least some of the leadership, anyway.
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 02:19 PM
Jul 2013

DVR...obviously.

The more troubling thing is that I've heard much of the above locally.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
9. what do you mean, 'heard much of the above locally'? you mean about dvr, or about your
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 03:07 PM
Jul 2013

local leadership?

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
11. This is not something that I am going to
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 10:13 AM
Jul 2013

expound upon here. I got publicly called out for doing so by local union reps a few years back. Snowden didn't have to tell me that there is no internet anonymity.

 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
12. Teachers don't have a prayer in hell surviving as a professional group
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 11:10 AM
Jul 2013

if they are living their lives in constant fear for their jobs.

 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
14. Organize and start standing up to them, even risking everything to do it
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 11:35 AM
Jul 2013

Operating in fear is why teaching is on the ropes.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
15. I've already suffered professional consequences.
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 11:42 AM
Jul 2013

I live alone. I have no back-up whatsoever if I lose my job. What savings I had is gone trying to staunch the financial bleeding caused by cutting pay and days over the last 5 years.

What kind of job can a 50-something teacher with no qualifications for anything but teaching get to replace teaching when that job is lost?

It's easy to say "risk everything" to do it, when it's someone else doing the risking.

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
16. True. There are plenty in your position and TPTB know this.
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 12:09 PM
Jul 2013

Which fact emboldens them, to no end.

If this miserable Bush-Obama economy ever improves it might change the whole dynamic in the profession but as long as they have an unlimited supply of cheap labor, teacher activists will have to be "cunning as serpents."

And really careful.

 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
18. People, opposition has to start from somewhere
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 12:19 PM
Jul 2013

I am WELL aware of retaliation in education--I have been a victim of it.

But if teachers don't start doing something about this and risk retaliation, there will be NO PROFESSION LEFT.

I give public education ten years max in this country without a major turnaround.

Teachers HAVE to do this if they want to survive. They don't have a choice.

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
20. I'm not counseling inaction. I'm counseling, prudent, planned...
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 12:31 PM
Jul 2013

... concerted, coordinated action.

With the aide of fellow-travelers and retirees like me who can afford to take more risks. Having a a thirty year career go up in smoke as a consequence of a quixotic thrust... or series of thrusts... at an enemy with vastly superior firepower just breaks that individual, strengthens the opposition and exacerbates all of the problems we are trying to remedy.

Now for starters... lets take a look, I mean a really CLOSE look, at these friggin' unions. Something is going on there. Something that is not supposed to be.

 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
21. It isn't rocket science what is going on with NEA/AFT
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 12:35 PM
Jul 2013

They have been infiltrated with moles and plants, and they haven't been weeded out.

They are killing teachers' unions. I suspect there has been handiwork from right-wing think tanks to kill them.

Take a look at Cory Booker, for example, about how he was bought and paid for by the far right to infiltrate the African American community to undermine its support of public education and unions.

Same thing is happening here.

 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
19. I AM a 50-something former teacher who was illegally fired
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 12:22 PM
Jul 2013

Don't tell me I don't know what I am talking about.

You won't have a job left at the rate things are going anyway, for "reformers" are targeting the higher-paid, older teachers for firing to save money on pensions, health care, and salaries.

I have found it nearly impossible to work regular employment EVER again, and it has been FIVE years since those assholes did it to me. I too am self-supporting and was forced to move out of state with to live with family and cannot get back on my feet financially. There is no spouse and no kids to help cushion the blow. It will be another three years of this shit before I can collect SS, at a reduced rate, with WEP added in because I take home a giant pension of $300 a MONTH from a state that doesn't pay into SS.

THAT is what I have to live on and whatever substituting assignments I can get. NOBODY will hire me for anything else, and I am financially strapped to be able to get licensed here.

You really have nothing to lose at this point because they are going to come after you anyway.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
23. My heart goes out to you.
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 01:01 PM
Jul 2013

I don't want to be in your position. Nobody would, and nobody SHOULD.

That's why I keep my activism mostly out of my hometown. That doesn't mean I don't speak up. It does mean I do it a hell of a lot more carefully than I was doing before. Having your own union leaders attack you for being too activist is an eye-opener.

 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
24. It's a terrible state of affairs, isn't it?
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 03:01 PM
Jul 2013

Your union is supposed to look out for you, but you are basically on your own.

You have to watch your back at ALL times.

Igel

(35,320 posts)
10. Of course not. Paid for?
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 05:09 PM
Jul 2013

Makes it sound like slavery. That's illegal *and* morally unacceptable.

No, the unions are "rented."

Paid for by the hour or by the act. Or at least used to be.

Now they've decided that being paid is demeaning. They do it for free, to show that they're not stuck with just any old outdated system of morals.

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