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hatrack

(59,584 posts)
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 08:48 AM Jun 2016

Remember The Temperature Spiral? Have You Seen The One That Goes Through 2100 AD?

The temperature spiral that took the world by storm has an update. If you think the heat is on in our current climate, you ain’t seen nothing yet. To recap, University of Reading climate scientist Ed Hawkins wrecked the internet a few weeks ago with a revolutionary new way to look at global temperatures. Using a circular graph of every year’s monthly temperatures and animating it, Hawkins’ image showed planetary heat spiraling closer to the 2°C threshold in a way no bar or line graph could do.



His tweet with the original graphic has been shared 15,000 times and it’s been dubbed the most compelling climate visualization ever made (sorry, landmarked Keeling Curve). The spiral’s popularity can be attributed in part to its hypnotic nature and the visceral way it shows the present predicament of climate change.

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“Like a lot of people, I found Ed Hawkins' temperature animation very compelling because it details observed warming from 1850 to present in a novel way,” U.S. Geological Survey scientist Jay Alder said. “His graphic sets the context for looking at projections from climate models.” So Alder used climate projections and stretched the spiral to its logical conclusion in 2100 when most climate model projections end. Using our current carbon emissions trends, it shows that things could get out of hand pretty quickly.

The world has been on the edge of the 1.5°C threshold — the amount of warming above pre-industrial levels that could sink many small island states permanently — this winter and early spring thanks to climate change and a strong El Niño. If the world continues on its current carbon emissions trend, it could essentially pass that threshold permanently in about a decade. The 2°C threshold — a planetary “safe” threshold enshrined in the Paris Agreement — will likely be in the rearview mirror by the early 2040s as temperatures spiral ever higher. By 2100, every month is projected to be 5°C (9°F) warmer than it was compared to pre-industrial levels.

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http://www.climatecentral.org/news/temperature-spiral-update-20399

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Remember The Temperature Spiral? Have You Seen The One That Goes Through 2100 AD? (Original Post) hatrack Jun 2016 OP
Of all the problems we face this is number 1. gordianot Jun 2016 #1
My oldest grandaughter was born in 2000 mountain grammy Jun 2016 #2
“…in a way no bar or line graph could do…” OKIsItJustMe Jun 2016 #3
Don't you see??!? It MOVES!! It . . . DOES STUFF!! It GOES ROUND AND ROUND!! hatrack Jun 2016 #4
Which means I cannot focus on the data OKIsItJustMe Jun 2016 #10
This is actually pretty conservative Hydra Jun 2016 #5
agree 100% - the acceleration of the problem is so dramatic I'm not sure NoMoreRepugs Jun 2016 #7
There would be no panic. GliderGuider Jun 2016 #8
Some of us are already panicking NickB79 Jun 2016 #9
Thank you mahina Jun 2016 #19
Actually, I'd say just the opposite. FBaggins Jun 2016 #11
This may help… OKIsItJustMe Jun 2016 #12
That explains a great deal LouisvilleDem Jun 2016 #17
That's what's so scary Hydra Jun 2016 #13
What do you mean by 'actual'? LouisvilleDem Jun 2016 #16
We are killing ourselves and refuse to recognize it. Stonepounder Jun 2016 #6
I had to Delphinus Jun 2016 #14
It seems a very linear projection though. Lodestar Jun 2016 #15
That's the problem with projections to 2100 GliderGuider Jun 2016 #18

gordianot

(15,237 posts)
1. Of all the problems we face this is number 1.
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 08:54 AM
Jun 2016

People will have to die in the street before this gets the real attention it deserves. It is happening now they do not recognize it yet.

mountain grammy

(26,619 posts)
2. My oldest grandaughter was born in 2000
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 08:59 AM
Jun 2016

and 4 more after that. The impact this will have on their lives and others going forward is terrifying indeed.

hatrack

(59,584 posts)
4. Don't you see??!? It MOVES!! It . . . DOES STUFF!! It GOES ROUND AND ROUND!!
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 09:18 AM
Jun 2016

Also, it's shinier than your graph.

OKIsItJustMe

(19,938 posts)
10. Which means I cannot focus on the data
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 03:45 PM
Jun 2016

It’s OK. I realize I’m a mutant.

I honestly did not understand what was so jaw-dropping revolutionary about the original graph.

Maybe it’s just that I’ve been paying attention too long…

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
5. This is actually pretty conservative
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 09:25 AM
Jun 2016

The previous spiral shows an even more dangerous picture- that the feedback loop has already started and we'll be above 5C in less than 10 years.

NoMoreRepugs

(9,417 posts)
7. agree 100% - the acceleration of the problem is so dramatic I'm not sure
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 12:16 PM
Jun 2016

that if the TRUTH were told there would not be widespread panic

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
8. There would be no panic.
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 12:20 PM
Jun 2016

People would simply refuse to believe it. Like they already do. It would be like trying to convince someone you knew when they were going to die. Exactly like that, as a matter of fact. The denial is a Terror Management defense.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terror_management_theory

NickB79

(19,233 posts)
9. Some of us are already panicking
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 03:22 PM
Jun 2016

When my wife can't understand why I'm spending every free hour I have converting more and more yard into vegetable gardens, pollinator gardens, chicken coops, fish ponds and orchards, when I'm exhausted after working 3am-1pm but still dive right back to the backyard, why I'm growing and giving away for almost nothing thousands of fruit trees and native perennials for pollinators on Craigslist, that's me panicking, only I'm directing that terror in a fashion that doesn't end with me becoming suicidal.

FBaggins

(26,731 posts)
11. Actually, I'd say just the opposite.
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 03:49 PM
Jun 2016

Warming to date is supposed to be just under one degree Celsius... yet this display shows closer to double that amount.

OKIsItJustMe

(19,938 posts)
12. This may help…
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 04:49 PM
Jun 2016
https://www.usgs.gov/media/images/simulated-global-temperature-change-0
[font face=Serif][font size=5]Simulated global temperature change[/font]

[font size=4](Animated graph goes here…)[/font]

[font size=3]This animated spiral portrays the simulated changes in the global averaged monthly air temperature from 1850 through 2100 relative to the 1850 - 1900 average. The temperature data are from Community Climate System (CCSM4) global climate model maintained by the National Center for Atmospheric Research. The simulation is for the IPCC Representative Concentration Pathway 8.5 (RCP8.5) emission scenario. RCP8.5 is the most aggressive scenario in which green house gases continue to rise unchecked through the end of the century, leading to an equivalent of about 1370 ppm CO₂, which is roughly four times the concentration at present. The CCSM4 simulation is part of the 5th Climate Model Intercomparison Program (CMIP5) and the data can be downloaded at https://pcmdi.llnl.gov/projects/cmip5/. The 21st century animations are an extension of the graphic (http://www.climate-lab-book.ac.uk/2016/spiralling-global-temperatures/) for the 1850-2010 observed air temperature created by E. Hawkins at Reading University, UK.

Email gs-w-or_regclim@usgs.gov for questions, comments or suggestions about the temperature spiral.
[/font][/font]


Compare this to the source of the graph I cited:
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs_v3/


Line plot of global mean land-ocean temperature index, 1880 to present, with the base period 1951-1980. …
(The animated spiral is relative to the 1850-1900 average.)

LouisvilleDem

(303 posts)
17. That explains a great deal
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 12:39 AM
Jun 2016

They are using the RCP8.5 emission scenario, which is pretty hard to justify. Given that observed temperatures have been lower than even the RCP4.5 emission scenario, there is simply no empirical support for believing that RCP8.5 is an accurate portrayal of what things will look like.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
13. That's what's so scary
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 08:03 PM
Jun 2016

The target number is half of actual. The actual is jumping above the dreaded 2C and rapidly rising, even just this year. We may be at 3 next year and no arctic ice this summer.

LouisvilleDem

(303 posts)
16. What do you mean by 'actual'?
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 12:05 AM
Jun 2016

I don't see any observed temperature increase beyond 2C within the instrumental record.


Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
6. We are killing ourselves and refuse to recognize it.
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 11:01 AM
Jun 2016

Science has pretty much proven that apex predators don't survive as a species very long (geologically speaking). And we are proving it once again. Between global warming, chemically poisoning our water supply, killing off the bees, acidifying the oceans, draining the aquifers, and so on, it appears to me that we are looking at a global collapse of our civilization in the not too distant future. I'm glad I probably won't be around to see it, but I worry about my grandkids and great grandkids.

Delphinus

(11,830 posts)
14. I had to
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 09:02 PM
Jun 2016

look up apex predator to understand what you meant; I had a clue, but wanted to make sure. Wikipedia isn't even listing humans as that, but I think it's pretty clear it is us.

Lodestar

(2,388 posts)
15. It seems a very linear projection though.
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 08:46 AM
Jun 2016

I'm sure there's more than one set of possibilities, not that any of them
would necessarily be better. But things are generally less predictable
than we'd like.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
18. That's the problem with projections to 2100
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 10:55 AM
Jun 2016

We don't know enough about physics or psychology to make any more than the vaguest of guesses.

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