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Related: About this forumRepublicans who believe in climate change seek antidote to Green New Deal
Republicans have trashed the Green New Deal Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's proposal to eliminate greenhouse gas emissions and create a renewable energy economy as unrealistic, unaffordable and ill-conceived.
But ever since the New York Democrat began promoting the idea late last year, a growing number of House GOP lawmakers have been increasingly willing to say those four little words: "Climate change is real." And they're warning the rest of their party that Republicans must push for alternative solutions before it's too late.
Reps. John Shimkus, R-Ill., the ranking member of the House Energy and Commerce's Environment and Climate Change subcommittee, Billy Long, R-Mo., Bill Flores, R-Texas, Buddy Carter, R-Ga., and Anthony Gonzalez, R-Ohio, among others, made their views plain during a pair of hearings on the topic in early February.
"This is an extremely important subject," Carter said during a House Energy and Commerce subcommittee on the Environment and Climate Change hearing on Feb. 6., adding that climate change "is real" and is "something that we have to address."
Shimkus, along with Rep. Greg Walden, R-Ore., the ranking member of the Energy and Commerce Committee, and Fred Upton, R-Mich., the ranking member of the House Energy and Commerce's Energy subcommittee, argued in a Feb. 13 opinion article that the Green New Deal would have "potentially devastating consequences on our national debt and on our economy."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/republicans-who-believe-in-climate-change-seek-antidote-to-green-new-deal/ar-BBUAe1e?li=BBnb7Kz
I count seven Republicans from the article. Glad they recognize climate change but that's hardly an overwhelming point of view among the GOP.
at140
(6,110 posts)More snow than ever, more freezing weather than ever.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,334 posts)What's your point? I hope it isn't like James Inhofe who claims because it snowed global warming is fake.
You do know the difference between weather and climate.
Climate is the average temprature. Prior to the snow we had some rather warm days for the time of year.
at140
(6,110 posts)even 3" snow fall brings the city to standstill and shutdown.
I spent majority of my life in Chicago and in 37 years of working,
missed going to work may be 3 days total. So we chuckle how quickly
Seattle is affected by snow. And that makes it feel like a bad winter.
My kids are still living in Seattle, and they have been complaining a lot
this winter. Me on the other hand escaped to warm Florida for the last
3 years. But this last winter here was also much cooler than previous 2.
One of my kids is travelling in Spain and Italy right now, and it has been
colder than usual in Rome, Milan, Madrid, Cadiz, Seville & Jerez where
she visited.
So yes, weather has been hotter in places and colder in other places.
Midwest had a brutal winter this year. While Houston was warmer than usual.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,334 posts)The snow in 2008 was worse than what we had this year.
murielm99
(30,778 posts)AOC's proposal. It did not originate with her. Stop rewriting history.
mountain grammy
(26,661 posts)But theres only one Mitch McConnell.
hatrack
(59,594 posts)And how nauseatingly petty and self-centered are the member of this caucus? See for yourself:
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"I think they've got to look at where the young people are, where the suburban people are, much more pro anti-climate change measures than Republican leadership and stuff," Rep. Francis Rooney, R-Fla., told NBC News. "And at some point, they're going to realize that if you can't reach enough people, you can't win. That's a math issue."
Rooney is a proponent of instituting a carbon tax a fee on the carbon contents of fossil fuels. That measure, which Rooney said would be "quite an elegant solution" to solving some climate change issues, currently enjoys little support among elected Republicans, least of all the president.
Trump "is so dead set on supporting the coal industry that there is no way he or [Senate Majority Leader] Mitch McConnell is going to move forward on a carbon tax," he said.
Still, Rooney worked with Rep. Ted Deutch, D-Fla., to reintroduce carbon tax legislation earlier this year in the hopes of driving conversation about climate policy, and have more people "realize that Republicans are interested in the environment." "We have a voice in this, too," he said.
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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/republicans-who-believe-climate-change-seek-antidote-green-new-deal-n973146?cid=public-rss_20190310
That's right, Congressman - because the most important thing is whether you can win. Not what happens to the planet, or the world your kids or grandkids grow up in, but winning.
So let's do some gum-flapping and daub a little Chanel No. 5 on the party that's been covering itself in its own shit for decades on climate, environment, forestry, endangered species, biodiversity, public lands policy and even basic physics can smell a little better, and lure back a few soccer moms next election cycle.
Pathetic.