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Caribbeans

(775 posts)
Sat Dec 31, 2022, 06:08 AM Dec 2022

Sinopec Bags New Hydrogen Projects



EnergyIntel.com | Thu, Dec 29, 2022

...The larger of the two projects approved last week is tagged at 20.5 billion yuan ($2.9 billion) – to be sited in Ulanqab in central Inner Mongolia and targets annual green hydrogen production of 100,000 tons, according to a statement last week from the Inner Mongolia energy bureau.

The Ulanqab project is to be integrated with a wind farm of 1.7 gigawatts (GW) and a solar farm of 804 megawatts (MW) for supplying the renewable electricity required for manufacturing green hydrogen.

The green hydrogen to be produced would be transported via a long-distance pipeline to Sinopec’s Beijing Yanshan petrochemical complex, which already houses a hydrogen purification facility that supplied the Beijing Winter Olympics.

Construction on the Ulanqab project is slated to start construction in December 2023, with completion scheduled for June 2027...
https://www.energyintel.com/00000185-5c92-d599-a1ef-5dfadd690000

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Global Times | Dec 29, 2022

The world's first hydrogen-energy urban train with independent intellectual property rights jointly developed by CRRC Changchun Railway Co and Chengdu Rail Transit officially rolled off the assembly line in Chengdu, Southwest China's Sichuan Province, on Wednesday.

The train adopted the key core technology of the Fuxing bullet train, with a maximum speed of 160 kilometers per hour.

The train has a built-in "hydrogen power" system, which provides a strong and durable power source that can achieve a long battery life of 600 kilometers, according to Chengdu Daily...

...China has the ambitious plan to promote the development of the hydrogen-energy industry. By 2025, the country will have about 50,000 hydrogen fuel-cell vehicles and its annual hydrogen production from renewable energy will reach 100,000 to 200,000 tons, according to the plan jointly released by the National Development and Reform Commission, and the National Energy Administration (NEA) in March of this year... more
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202212/1282909.shtml

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Botany

(70,510 posts)
1. "With a wind farm and a solar farm supplying the renewable electricity for manufacturing green .....
Sat Dec 31, 2022, 06:41 AM
Dec 2022

... hydrogen."

This is really great news. R you listening Joe Manchin?

Caribbeans

(775 posts)
2. Manchin - like most others in DC - doesn't want the PetroDollar to end
Sat Dec 31, 2022, 07:07 AM
Dec 2022


How serious is it?

Life and death serious.

Exorbitant privilege

As American economist Barry Eichengreen summarized: "It costs only a few cents for the Bureau of Engraving and Printing to produce a $100 bill, but other countries had to pony up $100 of actual goods in order to obtain one." In February 1965, President Charles de Gaulle announced his intention to exchange its U.S. dollar reserves for gold at the official exchange rate. He sent the French Navy across the Atlantic to pick up the French reserve of gold and was followed by several countries. As it resulted in considerably reducing U.S. gold stock and U.S. economic influence, it led U.S. President Richard Nixon to end the convertibility of the dollar to gold on August 15, 1971 (the "Nixon Shock" )

NNadir

(33,523 posts)
3. Neither do they want the hydrogen fantasy to end. Hydrogen is overwhelmingly made from dangerous...
Sat Dec 31, 2022, 11:50 AM
Dec 2022

...fossil fuels at a thermodynamic and environmental cost.

From time to time I find it necessary to address this pernicious advertising for an environmental, safety, and economic disaster, hydrogen with a dose of reality, although it never stops the flow of these nonsensical cartoons:



The caption:

Figure 1. Global current sources of H2 production (a), and H2 consumption sectors (b).


Progress on Catalyst Development for the Steam Reforming of Biomass and Waste Plastics Pyrolysis Volatiles: A Review Laura Santamaria, Gartzen Lopez, Enara Fernandez, Maria Cortazar, Aitor Arregi, Martin Olazar, and Javier Bilbao, Energy & Fuels 2021 35 (21), 17051-17084]
I referred to this graphic, and reproduced it, discussing a paper in the journal I discussed above here: The current sources and uses of hydrogen.

Eventually, people outgrow fantasies like Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, the divine rights of kings, and reactionary nonsense that returning to the 18th century and depending on the weather for energy is sustainable, but reality never goes away.

It may take as long for the hydrogen garbage fantasy to go away as it did for the divine right of kings, but if it does, it's going to have a high environmental and economic cost. We ignore the laws of thermodynamics at our peril.

Happy New Year. The hydrogen fantasy will not get much further in 2023 than it did in 1980, when Volume 1, Issue 1 of the International Journal of Hydrogen Energy first appeared in 1976.

The money squandered on this junk fantasy should break the heart of any knowledgeable person who cares about the environment.

Happy New Year!

NickB79

(19,246 posts)
4. Lots of water resources in Inner Mongolia these days, eh?
Sat Dec 31, 2022, 12:13 PM
Dec 2022

Because when I think "places to site water-intensive industry", the first place that comes to mind is Inner Mongolia.

I see the annual precipitation for Ulanqab is 13.4" per year, barely above desert conditions.

Guess they'll just have to drain a few pesky fossil aquifers. Good thing those will never run out, have no impact on the local population, and will have zero impact on the environment.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulanqab

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