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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 07:48 AM Dec 2012

Japan whalers given Sea Shepherd injunction by US court

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-20778616

A US court has ordered conservation group Sea Shepherd to stay at least 500 yards away from Japan's whaling fleet in the Southern Ocean.

The US Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit banned the group from "physically attacking any vessel engaged by the plaintiffs".

The court was responding to an appeal by Japan's whalers, after an earlier case was rejected.

The injunction remains in force until the court formally rules on the appeal.
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Japan whalers given Sea Shepherd injunction by US court (Original Post) xchrom Dec 2012 OP
good luck with that usa.... madrchsod Dec 2012 #1
When did that ever stop us from applying power globally? leveymg Dec 2012 #2
Who's going to be there to enforce it? caraher Dec 2012 #3
There's soft power and hard power. Both are at play in this case. leveymg Dec 2012 #4
Fault. PamW Dec 2012 #9
Only if anyone gives a shit about some judge in the US. Nihil Dec 2012 #10
In the lead in to every law suit there is a section that talks about why the plaintiff believes that ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #6
Found some of the earlier arguments FBaggins Dec 2012 #7
Parallel thread in GD ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #5
Japanese tail now wagging the US dog? Nihil Dec 2012 #8

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
2. When did that ever stop us from applying power globally?
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 08:35 AM
Dec 2012

That's all this is about. Japan has influence, we have the power to enforce it.

caraher

(6,278 posts)
3. Who's going to be there to enforce it?
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 08:57 AM
Dec 2012

Yeah, we *could* send the Navy, I suppose. But I don't see any real incentive to do so.


I think all this really does is give anyone who wants to harass the Sea Shepherd folks in US courts one more thing to attack them with.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
4. There's soft power and hard power. Both are at play in this case.
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 09:51 AM
Dec 2012

If there's a property interest to protect, we will use power to protect it. Anywhere.

PamW

(1,825 posts)
9. Fault.
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 11:32 AM
Dec 2012

We don't need to send the US Navy to support this.

There have been incidents in the past where there have been collisions between Sea Shepherd craft and Japanese whaling vessels. One of these collisions led to the sinking of Sea Shepherd's "Adi Gil". Another incident led to severe damage to Sea Shepherd's "Bridget Bardot".

With this ruling in place, it means that any further incidents / collisions between Sea Shepherd craft and Japanese whaling vessels will now automatically be ruled as the Sea Shepherds being at fault. If there is a collision, the fault will lie with Sea Shepherds because it means they violated a Court Order.

PamW

 

Nihil

(13,508 posts)
10. Only if anyone gives a shit about some judge in the US.
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 11:44 AM
Dec 2012

Your argument would support the Japanese deliberately ramming a Sea Shepherd vessel
and then claim that it was Sea Shepherd's "fault" for not sucessfully avoiding the attach.

Screw that.

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
6. In the lead in to every law suit there is a section that talks about why the plaintiff believes that
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 01:24 PM
Dec 2012

court has jurisdiction. It would be informative to see what it says

The jurisdiction issue seems really strained.

 

Nihil

(13,508 posts)
8. Japanese tail now wagging the US dog?
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 08:52 AM
Dec 2012

The Japanese are nothing if not inventive in how they spend their bribe money.

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