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Related: About this forumNew organization focused on methane: 1250now.org
http://1250now.org/1250s mission is to help shift our orientation towards, and contribute to the development of, intelligent and well-informed near-term climate choices to help alleviate our immediate crisis, without ignoring our long-term goals and needs. In this way, 1250 provides an important complement to the 350 movement begun by Bill McKibben. 1250 is not just an advocacy group for methane cuts, however. Rather, it is a group focusing on near-term climate as a whole, and the remaining practical pathways to constructing a climate bridge towards a stable and sustainable future, towards the world of 350.
Unfortunately, however, doing the math these days suggests that even with the most rapid reductions of black carbon, methane and other non-CO2 components, along with CO2 cuts, emissions reductions alone cannot reverse the so-called death spiral of arctic sea ice. 1250 thus advocates an immediate arctic rescue package. We agree fully with the goals of Greenpeace and their Save the Arctic program. But apart from pledging to keep out fossil fuel interests which is unquestionably very important Greenpeace has not yet detailed plans to save it.
If the arctic is left to keep melting, moreover, it will become well nigh impossible to stop the fossil industry from moving in, making this one the largest societal tipping points of our time. Either we move in the direction of 1250 which demands a change of consciousness about the plurality of climate change causes and cures, and, regardless of the clear need for massive CO2 cuts, quickly undertaking a holistic set of ambitious non-CO2 measures or we will likely slide inexorably toward a catastrophic future, even if positive steps are taken to move towards clean energy and lower CO2 emissions.
Yes, because of their link to AMEG they are apparently pushing geoengineering for the Arctic.
cprise
(8,445 posts)In particular, I have to wonder how geoengineering advocates can toss around the idea of adding sulphur dioxide to the atmosphere without any effort to allay concerns about acid rain. So far, they have made a poor impression.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts).
I have to post this:
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It's a spoof I made on some website last year, but it's got some truth in it.
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CRH
(1,553 posts)of reversing the the melt of the frozen carbon sinks on land and below the water.
Even if geo engineering could approach the scale needed to re freeze the permafrost and ocean clathrates, who gets to choose the type and location of engineering that will inevitably effect certain locations, populations and ecosystems, more than others?
Geo engineering will try to solve a systemic global heating problem with a local solution. The science behind geo engineering is still thinking piece meal if solutions are sought for the arctic melt without dealing with the holistic cause, 'global' heating.
Attempts at a lineal solution to a multi dimensional exponential cause, is sure to be futile.
1250 is no more a solution than 350.
Just my two cents.
GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)So yes, I agree on all counts.
CRH
(1,553 posts)Nihil
(13,508 posts)... using the traditional "Yay! Miracle Technology is gonna save us!" form of prayer.
When I saw the title of the thread, I really thought it was going to be a spoof in
the Onion or NewsThump (etc.) due to the total inability of humanity to even consider
a plan to restrict exponential consumption.
Turns out it was just a variation on a theme but some people will no doubt take
this as a serious attempt at a solution.
CRH
(1,553 posts)can be written as our epitaph. 'Here Lies BAU'.
NickB79
(19,236 posts)"And thus BAU grew angry with his creation, and decided to wipe the world clean with a flood of carbon emissions."