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Related: About this forumWorld-first pilot plant to turn carbon dioxide into rock
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-08-23/world-first-pilot-plant-will-turn-carbon-dioxide-into-rock/4908324"We could be making millions of tonnes of bricks and pavers which really could be green products for the future," he said.
He says the project is about permanently transforming carbon dioxide, not just storing it in the ground.
Orica chief executive Ian Smith says the technology will enable every power station in the world to capture carbon dioxide emissions and turn them into rock.
BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)Last edited Sat Aug 24, 2013, 12:42 AM - Edit history (1)
I always thought that pumping the ground full of CO2 gas was a laughable idea. Over time, most of that gas would seep back into the atmosphere. If these guys have a way to economically bind CO2 into a rocky substance, that could be a difference maker.
Of course, they don't say anything about cost or scalability.
Wilms
(26,795 posts)http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaking-news/plant-turns-carbon-emission-into-bricks/story-fni0xqi4-1226702909377
napi21
(45,806 posts)PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)(and by what it costs I mean per amount of CO2 converted).
longship
(40,416 posts)At least it isn't Rap, or whatever they call it now. I'd even go for turning CO2 into jazz. But Rock is so common.
Maybe when they get the technology together we can get something other than loud guitars and drums.
Still, it's a first step. When they get to Gershwin or Benny Goodman, let me know.
Here's some Goodman, at his best at Carnegie Hall in 1938. With the incredible Gene Krupa on drums. It brought the house down. Sing, Sing, Sing!
As Duke Ellington said, "If the music sounds good, it is good."
On edit: the correct Carnegie Hall Sing, Sing, Sing. Enjoy, people!
TalkingDog
(9,001 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)Or, I will take my punishment!
Do listen to the Goodman, though.
It's all "World Music", ya know!
(Permit me to introduce my current music production/publishing project (under construction, in both technical and human senses) -> http://www.aridisland.com/records/ <- good sounds? )
napoleon_in_rags
(3,991 posts)All we need to do is focus on the reactions that produce them, out of C02, or out of hydrocarbons in an productive manner.
mopinko
(70,090 posts)which ought to be pretty easy.
Nihil
(13,508 posts)From their Q & A PDF:
> 4. How does the process work?
> Basic rock such as serpentinite is mined, crushed, heated and then mixed with water
> and pressurised with CO2 to speed up the natural carbonation reaction which in turn
> forms stable magnesium carbonate powder and sand.
All of those processes (mining, crushing, heating, mixing with water, CO2 pressurisation)
require additional energy input (some require a lot of it).
> 6. Will mineral carbonation mean more mining?
> In general, yes, more mining will be required to supply the minerals for carbonation.
> By doing this, the mining industry could in fact become a large part of the solution to
> our most pressing global environmental problem.
The salient phrase is "yes, more mining will be required".
> 7. How much mining is required for mineral carbonation?
> The mining scale will be smaller than the scale of mining for coal. In fact, to secure
> all the CO2 produced from coal, only half as much mineral silicate rock will be needed
> as the original amount of rock mined to extract the coal that produced the CO2.
So ... only half a mountain top at a time then?
All of the above are merely question marks and I truly hope that the result of this
pilot study is genuinely beneficial to the environment rather than just to the company.
"Orica is the largest provider of commercial explosives and blasting systems to the mining
and infrastructure markets, the global leader in the provision of ground support in mining
and tunnelling, and the leading supplier of sodium cyanide for gold extraction. "
Pardon my cynicism here but I feel that this plays into the increasingly frantic search
for a silver bullet that will allow Business As Usual ...