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Related: About this forumGermany Proves Life With Less Fossil Fuel Getting Easier
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-04-12/germany-proves-life-with-less-fossil-fuel-getting-easierSitting in a control center that helps ensure uninterrupted power for 82 million Germans, Gunter Scheibner is proving that renewable energy from the sun and wind can be just as reliable as fossil fuels. Scheibner, in charge of keeping flows stable over 6,200 miles (9,976 kilometers) of transmission lines in eastern Germany, must keep power from solar and wind in harmony whether its sunny or overcast, windy or still. In doing so, hes overcoming the great challenge for renewable energy: how to keep supplies steady when the weather doesnt cooperate. The system Scheibner manages has been so successful that Germany experiences just 15 minutes a year of outages, compared with 68 minutes in France and more than four hours in Poland. The model in Germany, the biggest economy in the world to rely so heavily on renewables, is being copied from California to China as wind and solar displace traditional fuels such as nuclear and coal.
Our job has become much more complex, Scheibner said in an interview from the control center outside Berlin owned by 50Hertz Transmission GmbH, one of Germanys four main grid operators. Its not an easy mission, and it will cost money. But if you are doing it consciously, then it will be doable. We have already come so far.
Fossil Backup
Providing grid stability means predicting as accurately as possible how much power solar panels and wind turbines will produce. To improve that, companies like 50Hertz use data from five different weather forecasters to fine tune its operations. Still, the perception of renewable power as a fickle source that must be backed-up by fossil fuels, usually coal, remains. The Edison Electric Institute, an industry group based in Washington, and incumbent producers claim that variable flows from renewables will destabilize the power grid. Germanys decade-long 120 billion-euro ($127.1 billion) investment binge to shift toward low-polluting energy forms is proving critics wrong. The country has raised its share of renewable power for electricity to about 28 percent, more than any source including lignite. In Scheibners region, its more than 40 percent. When transportation and heating are included, 9 percent of Germanys energy comes from renewables, triple the U.S. level and six time what the U.K. uses, according to BP Plc.
Higher Concentrations
Researchers studying the grid say that a much higher concentration of renewables -- 50 percent or more -- is possible. That will come at a cost. Germany needs to invest 6.1 billion euros a year in its grid by the end of this decade to cope with additional wind and solar farms, the German Institute for Economic Research in Berlin estimated.
Theres a myth among opponents of renewable energy that you need 100 percent backup spinning all the time, and its utter nonsense, said Michael Liebreich, founder of Bloomberg New Energy Finance. Any grid needs flexibility. You can have a nuclear plant shut down by jellyfish or a coal plant closed because of a freeze and you cant shovel in supplies fast enough.
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Germany Proves Life With Less Fossil Fuel Getting Easier (Original Post)
Demeter
Apr 2015
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(68,644 posts)1. Those "control centers" are VERY cool. Here's ours:
It's in Folsom California, the CA ISO: