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Fri Sep 4, 2015, 05:42 PM Sep 2015

Kawasaki Industries is working to create a supply chain for liquefied hydrogen

Kawasaki Heavy fighting for place in 'hydrogen economy'

YOKO SHOJI & HISASHI IWATO September 3, 2015 Nikkei Asian Review

TOKYO -- Kawasaki Heavy Industries is working to create a supply chain for liquefied hydrogen, a fuel it sees as a major new energy source. The key to its success lies in developing a network of allies that can demonstrate the viability of the "hydrogen economy."


Kawasaki Heavy hopes to become a leader in setting standards for the transport of hydrogen, which will rely heavily on tankers like the one in this artist's rendering

The Japanese company is joining forces with Electric Power Development, known as J-Power, to produce hydrogen. The technology to transport the liquefied fuel will come through an alliance with energy company Iwatani. It has also begun a "smart community" project with Obayashi, a construction company, aimed at generating electricity from hydrogen and supplying it to the community.

Kawasaki Heavy has many of the technologies needed to handle hydrogen, from production to supply, but creating a comprehensive hydrogen infrastructure by itself would be impossible, so the company is expanding its partnerships...snip

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In the mines of the Latrobe Valley, in southeastern Australia, brown coal is piled high as far as the eye can see. Kawasaki Heavy is testing technology here to produce hydrogen from the coal. As early as 2017, it will begin construction on a pilot plant that can produce 20 tons of hydrogen a day...snip
Read more: http://asia.nikkei.com/magazine/20150903-LIVING-TOGETHER/Tech-Science/Kawasaki-Heavy-fighting-for-place-in-hydrogen-economy

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Kawasaki Industries is working to create a supply chain for liquefied hydrogen (Original Post) nationalize the fed Sep 2015 OP
I don't understand. Why do you need to transport liquid hydrogen by ship? Xipe Totec Sep 2015 #1
Purely & simply to maintain the centralised fossil fuel industry profit model. Nihil Sep 2015 #2

Xipe Totec

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1. I don't understand. Why do you need to transport liquid hydrogen by ship?
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 06:00 PM
Sep 2015

Traveling over an ocean composed almost entirely of hydrogen and oxygen?

Can't we produce it closer to the point of consumption and stop wasting energy to transport energy?

 

Nihil

(13,508 posts)
2. Purely & simply to maintain the centralised fossil fuel industry profit model.
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 05:43 AM
Sep 2015

The hydrogen industry isn't interested in efficiency, just maintaining the
status quo ...


The first hint that this is just more hype from the usual suspects comes in the
first sentence of the post:

> Kawasaki Heavy Industries is working to create a supply chain for liquefied hydrogen,
> a fuel it sees as a major new energy source.

*BUZZ*! Hydrogen is not and cannot be an energy source on this planet.

Still, that blatant lie should prepare you for the bullshit that followed it ...

> The Japanese company is joining forces with Electric Power Development,
> known as J-Power, to produce hydrogen. ...
> (nice hand-wave about future technology to transport the hydrogen using an existing
> fossil fuel energy company comes here) ...
> It has also begun a "smart community" project with Obayashi, a construction company,
> aimed at generating electricity from hydrogen and supplying it to the community.

So, this particular scam uses one fossil fuel company to produce the hydrogen from
coal-fired electricity, another fossil fuel company to transport it and finally produces
electricity from the transported hydrogen for use by consumers - naturally quite a bit
less of it than was used to create the hydrogen in the first place.

Best of all, the ships transporting the useless, redundant hydrogen over
the oceans are powered by fossil fuel ... win-win for the coal/oil/gas folks.

Overall effect: Maintaining Business As Usual for the fossil fuel industry.




> In the mines of the Latrobe Valley, in southeastern Australia, brown coal is piled
> high as far as the eye can see. Kawasaki Heavy is testing technology here to
> produce hydrogen from the coal. As early as 2017, it will begin construction on
> a pilot plant that can produce 20 tons of hydrogen a day...

... from coal that should be being left in the fucking ground.

BAU + $$$ whilst continuing to trash the planet.


And *some* people around here still try to claim that the hydrogen scam is "green" ...




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