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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

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Thu Jun 23, 2022, 12:02 PM Jun 2022

Top US Air Force general says the Russian air force's struggles in Ukraine are surprising because Ru

The Russian air force's failure to gain control of the air over Ukraine and its struggles to operate effectively against Ukrainian air defenses are among the biggest surprises in the four-month war.

Russia's failure to ground Ukraine's aircraft and to overcome Ukrainian antiaircraft weapons contributed to the faltering of Moscow's initial ground offensive — an outcome the chief of staff of the US Air Force this week described as particularly unusual since the Russians use many of the same weapons.

"I think for me it's surprising for the Russians because the systems they're going against are their own systems," Gen. Charles Brown Jr. said Wednesday at the Hudson Institute, a think tank in Washington, DC. "They should know them fairly well and how to defeat them."

"It kind of begs a real question for me: How come they don't understand their own systems and how they might defeat their own systems?" he added.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/top-us-air-force-general-says-the-russian-air-forces-struggles-in-ukraine-are-surprising-because-russia-is-fighting-its-own-systems/ar-AAYKZ3d

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Top US Air Force general says the Russian air force's struggles in Ukraine are surprising because Ru (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2022 OP
Russia's air power failure from the beginning is quite perplexing. Irish_Dem Jun 2022 #1
"Russia's Air Force should have been its biggest advantage at the start of the war." mitch96 Jun 2022 #2
Exactly. Irish_Dem Jun 2022 #3
Immoral war and an unmotivated, undisciplined hollow armed forces. Nt Baked Potato Jun 2022 #4
Maybe Putin is afraid that too many of them will be shot down. Dysfunctional Jun 2022 #5

Irish_Dem

(47,014 posts)
1. Russia's air power failure from the beginning is quite perplexing.
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 12:10 PM
Jun 2022

Russia's Air Force should have been its biggest advantage at the start of the war. But it appears the Russian Air Force was not capable of a complicated, well planned campaign.

mitch96

(13,895 posts)
2. "Russia's Air Force should have been its biggest advantage at the start of the war."
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 01:54 PM
Jun 2022

In this day and age it has been proven that without air superiority it's gonna be tough to conduct a land war.. WW2 was a prime example.
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Irish_Dem

(47,014 posts)
3. Exactly.
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 02:02 PM
Jun 2022

Putin should have started with his Air Force.
I don't know why he kept the planes in the hanger.

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