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bemildred

(90,061 posts)
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 01:48 PM Feb 2015

Ukraine preparing for 'full-scale war,' says former envoy to Canada

Ukraine's deputy foreign minister says he is preparing for "full-scale war" against Russia and wants Canada to help by supplying lethal weapons and the training to use them.

Vadym Prystaiko, who until last fall was Ukraine's ambassador to Canada, says the world must not be afraid of joining Ukraine in the fight against a nuclear power.

In an interview with CBC Radio's The House airing Saturday, Prystaiko says the ceasefire brokered by Germany and France was not holding.

"The biggest hub we ever had in the railroad is completely destroyed and devastated," he told host Evan Solomon about Debaltseve, captured by Russian-backed rebels after the terms were to have taken effect earlier this week.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-preparing-for-full-scale-war-says-former-envoy-to-canada-1.2964887

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Ukraine preparing for 'full-scale war,' says former envoy to Canada (Original Post) bemildred Feb 2015 OP
Neo-Canada. nt CJCRANE Feb 2015 #1
Full scale civil war between Kiev factions, that I believe. Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #2
There are more than two sides, what we have is warlords and mercenaries. bemildred Feb 2015 #4
There appears to be a rapidly escalating breakdown between Poroshenko and his army/militia. Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #5
Maybe. I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop there. bemildred Feb 2015 #6
running press gangs to staff a military force ruins morale Man from Pickens Feb 2015 #7
Another Canadian voice jakeXT Feb 2015 #3

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
4. There are more than two sides, what we have is warlords and mercenaries.
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 02:06 PM
Feb 2015

And a diminshing quantity of cannon fodder.

I don't really see anybody putting it back together either.

Although the 40 billion of outside help that is being talked of could probably keep the question from even coming up for years yet.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
6. Maybe. I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop there.
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 02:13 PM
Feb 2015

Putin will take more if they keep trying to fight.

jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
3. Another Canadian voice
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 02:02 PM
Feb 2015
In short, Ukraine’s defeats are the result of dismal leadership rather than a want of weapons or training. Unfortunately, Western countries’ obsession with Russia has deluded them into thinking that Ukraine’s problems are entirely the fault of Russian malevolence, and has blinded them into ignoring the role played by the Ukrainian government’s incompetence.

To date, the policy of Canada and its allies has been to change Russian behaviour by means of sanctions. But Ukrainian behaviour also needs changing: in particular, Kiev has to abandon all hopes of military victory and face the reality that it must negotiate directly with the rebels in order to enact the constitutional reform required in the latest Minsk agreement. Our influence on Russia is very limited. We do, however, have leverage over Ukraine, and can hope to change its behaviour. Rather than giving unconditional support, we should start trying to effect that change. - See more at: http://cips.uottawa.ca/debacle-at-debaltsevo-calls-for-a-new-approach-to-ukraine
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