Netanyahu hints at easing rules on firing at Palestinian stone-throwers

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/02/netanyahu-hints-easing-rules-firing-palestinian-stone-throwers

Israel’s prime minister, Binyamin Netanyahu, has ordered his security officials to examine changing the rules governing when soldiers can shoot young Palestinian stone-throwers.

A statement issued by his office on Wednesday revealed Netanyahu was considering giving security forces a freer hand to open fire with live ammunition after meeting with his cabinet to discuss a recent increase in the number of incidents involving firebombs and stone-throwing in Jerusalem and on the West Bank.

Despite rules of engagement that in theory permit potentially lethal live fire to be used only in life-threatening situations, a number of recent incidents have led to young Palestinians being killed by Israeli soldiers – including a brigade commander – while fleeing and posing no immediate threat.

The re-examination of open-fire regulations comes as the Israeli parliament is due to consider sweeping anti-terrorism legislation, which some have criticised for what they say are draconian new provisions.

It is madness to believe that anybody could be this stupid, but it is Netanyahu.

Netanyahu doesn't even know that he has lost this battle, and like all tyrants when faced with the inevitable he has decided to double down on cruelty.

It's not enough that Israeli-colonist-price tag-terrorists confiscate land, destroy crops, attack Palestinians and burn their children to death, but now their protectors, the IDF, will be able to shoot-to-kill those that fight back with...rocks.

Israel has lost this battle. Once the smoke has cleared from Israel's failed attempts to scuttle the Iran deal, with leading Democratic cheerleaders in tow, the world will turn more of its attention to the rouge apartheid state, and it's upping the ante of shoot-to-kill will be the tipping point. Once photos of dead palestinian children, at the hands of the IDF, start to surface then the end will be in sight for business as usual for right wing Israel.

I hope that it doesn't happen, but then again it's Netanyahu.

[onecaliberal]

1. How does this guy get away with murder?

He makes bush look tame. He's sanctioning murder for throwing rocks now, really?

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

2. His government is a who's who of right wingers that hate Palestinians.

They deserve the trouble that they are going to get if they proceed with this outrageous idea.

[grossproffit]

4. Soccer player dies after hit by rock at Algerian game

[url] http://sports.yahoo.com/news/player-dies-being-hit-object-090746741--sow.html[/url]

Rocks aren't cotton balls. They're thrown to inflict injury or death.

[onecaliberal]

5. Comparing apples to oranges I see.

Spare me your condescension. The Palestinians are being slaughtered and their land stolen. Don't bother to reply. Enjoy the dust bin.

[Little Tich]

7. I think Netanyahu should ask himself if shooting Palestinian children is really good PR for Israel..

It would be a difficult thing for the world to swallow, and no amount of hasbara from the dung heap of Zionist lies can sweeten it.

[oberliner]

8. Maybe it's not about PR but rather about protecting soldiers from injury

What happens if you throw a rock at a soldier in other countries?

[grossproffit]

9. I'm more curious about the "no amount of hasbara from the dung heap of Zionist lies" statement

what's the opposite of a "hasbara?"

[King_David]

10. The very reason you never see any Democratic Party rep or candidate

Linking to this group.


The anti Israel rhetoric is not our party values.

[Little Tich]

14. I'm not anti-Israel, I'm anti Netanyahu.

These new guidelines are bad for Israel and will damage Israel's reputation.

[King_David]

15. "Zionist lies" is not Netanyahu

It's just about the vast majority of Israeli and for that matter worldwide Jews .

[Little Tich]

18. Quite true about Netanyahu, but he is after all the face of Zionism gone bad.

I may not have anything nice to say about Zionism in general (just like I have nothing nice to say about all forms of nationalism), but Netanyahu is Likud, and he represents all the values of Likud Zionism. Please try not to expand my antipathy to things and people I have nothing against, even though I must admit I inadvertently left an opening this time.

[Little Tich]

13. My definition of hasbara is bullshit Zionist propaganda, hence the dung heap analogy.

If it isn't a lie, it's not hasbara. If it's not propaganda etc.

However, true facts that put Israel in a positive light are never hasbara. My argument can easily be proved if you don't believe me; Just look at for example CAMERA's webpage and try to find anything that is true, and on then go to Haaretz and find something that's false. True facts can never be hasbara, so the opposite of hasbara is the truth.

Maybe I'm crazy, but this is what I honestly believe...

[grossproffit]

16. What's the correct term for bullshit anti-Zionist propaganda?

[Little Tich]

17. That's actually a good question.

Some of it would be anti-Semitism, and when it's not anti-Semitic - I guess it's just bullshit...

[6chars]

11. People are confused

And think of rock throwing as non violent civil disobedience. I am not sure what the right rules are for dealing with rock throwing, but the army has to balance a lot. I do not believe civilians have an inherent right to throw rocks. Throwing a rock at someone with a gun is a pretty big choice. If it hits, it will cause serious injury. I suppose the right policy is to use the minimum force necessary to stop it at the time, which depends on conditions, and to arrest people who do it.

[Little Tich]

12. You don't have to look to other countries for examples how things are done differently.

Just look at how the IDF is treating settlers throwing rocks. How many stone throwing settlers have been killed by the IDF, or even shot at? But then again, the settlers are in another country in a way.