Israeli Terrorists, Born in the U.S.A.

[odd_duck]

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/06/opinion/sunday/israeli-terrorists-born-in-the-usa.html?_r=1

[still_one]

1. It is sad, but no surprise, just as it isn't surprising there are some Americans joining ISIS

http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/05/us/isis-us-arrests/

In both cases it is abhorrent

[6chars]

2. All American-born Israelis?

[MisterP]

3. oddly this seems to be the case with many terrorists: they're formed *abroad*

they get a sense of themselves as a united countryfolk in a foreign context, discriminated and incarcerated, nurtured on glories or massacres centuries old, nicely isolated, pushed into an ethnic "nation-state" context, infiltrated by intel agencies, living off news and rumors of wars and attacks "back home"

Air India was blown up by some guys from Vancouver and the 19-year-olds who kept shooting up Dutch schools and trains had never been in Ambon

90% of Bibi's money comes from America--but the joke is that so do 90% of his voters

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

7. Two of the biggest monsters of the 20th century

were not born in the countries that they later ruled over.

[geek tragedy]

4. Dov Hikind, a Democratic state Assemblyman from Brooklyn,

is also an unreformed and unabashed Kahanist and likely former JDL terrorist. A bigger rightwing asshole and bigot than any candidate for the Republican nomination for President--ever.

http://www.thelmagazine.com/2011/02/8-things-you-need-to-know-about-brooklyns-racist-and-gay-hating-assemblyman-dov-hikind/

And he is treated with great respect (obviously would not be the case if he were Muslim).

People think NYC Jews are all like the cast of Seinfeld. Unfortunately, lots of far right crazies mixed in.

[oberliner]

8. "People think NYC Jews are all like the cast of Seinfeld"

Who are the people that think this?

Only one of those characters was identified as Jewish.

Do people think that NYC African-Americans are like the cast of The Cosby Show?

[King_David]

9. Quite the stereotype. nt

[geek tragedy]

11. people assume New York is a great big liberal city

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and that because NY is liberal and Jews in general are liberal, that must make NYC liberals really liberal.

Also, the media portrays NYC as being the village and Upper West Side, not Borough Park and other rightwing enclaves.

But, you are fond of citing Kahanist publications here, so maybe you have a different definition of liberal and sane than most Jews and non-Jews do.

[oberliner]

12. That seems like a stretch

I don't think you know what you are talking about, with all due respect.

[Israeli]

14. I think he does oberliner.....nt.

[Israeli]

5. Dream on ....

American Jews at home and abroad can no longer condone these blind spots and damning silences when it comes to Jewish extremism in Israel. It is the obligation of all who seek peace and justice to take up Mr. Rabin’s clarion call to spit out the terrorists and their sympathizers in our midst.

They are just " a few loony tunes individuals. " .....

[King_David]

10. What are you trying to say?

We American Jews are ALL terrorists?

What exactly are you getting at? Please elaborate....

[Israeli]

13. Sure KD ....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1134111776

Quote KD ..." And not a few loony tunes individuals. "

Your post # 18.

[King_David]

15. Yes

And ?

What are you trying to say ?

[Israeli]

16. that you and oberliner.....

.....are either fooling yourselves or fooling this group KD .........which is it ???

Israel dismantled all settlements and withdrew from the Gaza Strip in 2005.

There is no interest in returning there.

He at least had the sense to run ....you having no sense stood your ground .

[King_David]

17. Different topic

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You seem to be making a statement about American Jews

[Mosby]

6. the author makes some pretty dubious assertions

The American/israeli settlers are not liberals, they are conservatives and as such display some of the same pathologies of all modern conservatives.

Rivalin may have walked with mlk decades ago but anyone who compares pbo with haman is not any kind of liberal or progressive.