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azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 03:55 PM Jan 2016

Poll: Only 20% of Jewish Israelis see Arab citizens as ‘equals’

More than one-third of Jewish Israelis see their Arab fellow citizens as “enemies,” and only 20 percent said they consider Arab Israelis their “equals,” a new poll has found.

The poll was conducted via face-to-face interviews with 600 Jewish Israelis by the Institute for National Security Studies, which held its annual conference this week. It also found that 44 percent of Jewish Israelis see Arab Israelis as “people who needed to be respected but also treated with suspicion,” Haaretz reported Tuesday.

The think tank’s poll, which is not yet available on its website, also interviewed 200 Arab Israelis, finding that 70% identify as Israeli in some form, whether describing themselves as “Israeli Arab,” Palestinian Israeli” or “Arab with Israeli citizenship.”

http://www.timesofisrael.com/poll-only-20-of-jewish-israelis-see-arab-citizens-as-equals/

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Poll: Only 20% of Jewish Israelis see Arab citizens as ‘equals’ (Original Post) azurnoir Jan 2016 OP
From Haaretz azurnoir Jan 2016 #1
of course mwrguy Jan 2016 #2
what about all the Arab states that surround Israel? MariaThinks Jan 2016 #3
Or it's close to 100 years of war between 2 peoples. Ever thought of that? n/t shira Jan 2016 #5
Israel is at war with it's Arab population? do tell azurnoir Jan 2016 #6
Israelis vs. Palestinians. Ever heard of Palestinians in Gaza or the W.Bank? shira Jan 2016 #8
well that's real nice and all but this OP is about ethnic division among Israeli citizens azurnoir Jan 2016 #10
Take away 100 years of war & terror & this ethnic division is nowhere near the same. n/t shira Jan 2016 #13
It's not that simple. Ken Burch Jan 2016 #15
Baloney !!! virgogal Jan 2016 #28
I wonder what it is the other way oberliner Jan 2016 #4
As #14 below shows, 1 in 3 Israeli Arabs support terror attacks in Israel. n/t shira Jan 2016 #18
Certainly neither party sees the other as an equal oberliner Jan 2016 #19
let's see the actual poll mmmmkay because this from the same poll seems to refute that azurnoir Jan 2016 #20
Only 68% oppose terror attacks. Imagine they were Israeli Jews.... shira Jan 2016 #24
and 84% approve condemnation of such attacks - seems rather conflicting to me azurnoir Jan 2016 #26
Israel is going in the wrong direction it seems. Little Tich Jan 2016 #7
Naftali Bennett's efforts to have a good relationship with Israel's Arab population.... shira Jan 2016 #9
Too little too late? n/t Little Tich Jan 2016 #11
First you say Israel's going in the wrong direction, but when you see they aren't.... shira Jan 2016 #12
Naftali Bennett? the ringleader for the religious-fascist settlers' movement? Ken Burch Jan 2016 #16
Hard to believe, but true. n/t shira Jan 2016 #17
BS Israel's education budget is over 12 BILLION in US dollars azurnoir Jan 2016 #21
You'd probably be happier if nothing were done at all. n/t shira Jan 2016 #22
and you seem satisfied with .1% 1/10 of 1 percent being allocated towards Arab education azurnoir Jan 2016 #23
It's not 1/10th of 1%. That's BS. Way to go diminishing anything Israel does. shira Jan 2016 #25
do the math that's how I figured it out azurnoir Jan 2016 #27
You have no idea what you are talking about oberliner Jan 2016 #29
from September 2015:Israeli Arab Schools to Go on Strike - more recent than your article azurnoir Jan 2016 #34
Nothing there about percentage of funds spent on education for different groups oberliner Jan 2016 #35
Nope do you think Israeli Arabs are demanding more than they deserve? azurnoir Jan 2016 #36
Your math is obviously slanted King_David Jan 2016 #30
Evidence showing Israel in any light other than evil, nazi-like, racist.... shira Jan 2016 #31
Israeli government approves $3.85 billion plan for social, employment development.... shira Jan 2016 #32
going by the figures you provided as proof of Naftali Bennett's being a champion of Israeli Arabs azurnoir Jan 2016 #33
More polls. branford Jan 2016 #14

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
1. From Haaretz
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 04:01 PM
Jan 2016

Now, a full 36 percent of Jewish Israeli respondents to an INSS poll said they saw their fellow Arab citizens as “enemies.”

A further 44 percent of respondents said they considered Arab Israelis “people who needed to be respected but also treated with suspicion.” Only 20 percent said they considered Israeli Arabs as their “equals.” Six hundred Israeli Jews and 200 Israeli Arabs took part in the poll, which was conducted through face-to-face interviews.

More than half of Jews polled by the INSS – 53 percent – went on to say that they believed Israel should stress, in its relations with its Arab population, that there would be consequences and “punishment” for “behavior not befitting” of Israeli citizens. Only 26 percent believed that solving the growing crisis required making the lives of those Arab citizens more “equal” to those of the country’s Jewish citizens. A further 20 percent thought nothing new needed to be done.

read more: http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.698370

MariaThinks

(2,495 posts)
3. what about all the Arab states that surround Israel?
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 04:37 PM
Jan 2016

How many Jews are there in:

Saudi Arabia
Kuwait
Jordan
United Emerites
Egyt
Turkey

?

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
6. Israel is at war with it's Arab population? do tell
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 03:18 AM
Jan 2016

but perhaps your comment reveals more than intended

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
8. Israelis vs. Palestinians. Ever heard of Palestinians in Gaza or the W.Bank?
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 07:06 AM
Jan 2016

Ever heard of the PLO, Hamas, PFLP, Islamic Jihad?

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
15. It's not that simple.
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 03:09 AM
Jan 2016

And in any case the conflict(for which Israel bears as much responsibility as any other state) doesn't justify seeing Israeli Arabs(a group that did nothing to start the conflict) as inferior.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
19. Certainly neither party sees the other as an equal
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 08:43 AM
Jan 2016

I'd like to teach the world to sing, in perfect harmony...

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
20. let's see the actual poll mmmmkay because this from the same poll seems to refute that
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 10:13 AM
Jan 2016

The poll, commissioned by Channel 10 and published on its website, also found that 84% of Israeli Arabs support Knesset members who condemned the attacks in Jerusalem, while fully 81% believe Israel is trying to harm the status quo on the Temple Mount.

Just 16% opposed the condemnation of the attacks by Arab MKs.


http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/68-percent-of-Israeli-Arabs-oppose-recent-wave-of-terrorism-poll-finds-382755
 

shira

(30,109 posts)
24. Only 68% oppose terror attacks. Imagine they were Israeli Jews....
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 07:38 PM
Jan 2016

You'd be going ballistic wondering why only 68% of Jews in Israel opposed terror attacks against Israeli Arabs.

Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
7. Israel is going in the wrong direction it seems.
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 06:01 AM
Jan 2016

It ought to be a strategic imperative for the Jewish state to have a good relationship with its Arab population. The current government is only trying to create mistrust and deepen the division between Jewish and Arab in Israel.

I'm not a fan of polls in general, and all the findings should generally be taken with a pinch of salt. I can't help but feeling that these findings are somewhat accurate though.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
9. Naftali Bennett's efforts to have a good relationship with Israel's Arab population....
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 07:08 AM
Jan 2016
Bennett has long sought to be an advocate for the Arab Israeli public. In the last government as Economics Minister he oversaw a $2.5 million program integrating Arabs in the hi-tech industry. In March 2013, he told the Europe Israel Press Association (EIPA) that the issue of increasing the number of Arab women in the workforce is "his baby."

As Education Minister, last August he launched a $7.9 million plan to teach Arab students Hebrew in kindergarten, to improve Arab employment and economic power, and last month in December he announced that he is establishing the "first Arab college" in Israel.


http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/205870#.VqC75lMr
 

shira

(30,109 posts)
12. First you say Israel's going in the wrong direction, but when you see they aren't....
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 07:39 PM
Jan 2016

....now it's too late.

Convenient.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
16. Naftali Bennett? the ringleader for the religious-fascist settlers' movement?
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 03:13 AM
Jan 2016

Why would you ever expect Israeli Arabs to see him as their "advocate"?

It's like expecting South African blacks to feel that way about Eugene Terre'blanche.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
21. BS Israel's education budget is over 12 BILLION in US dollars
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 10:26 AM
Jan 2016

and we're supposed to be impressed over Bennett begrudging a few million to Arab schools-right

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4698277,00.html

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
23. and you seem satisfied with .1% 1/10 of 1 percent being allocated towards Arab education
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 07:36 PM
Jan 2016

in Israel

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
25. It's not 1/10th of 1%. That's BS. Way to go diminishing anything Israel does.
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 07:40 PM
Jan 2016

By no means can Israel be anything but evil and racist to Palestinians either in Israel or outside of it.

I get it....

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
29. You have no idea what you are talking about
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 09:12 PM
Jan 2016

According to the data, primary school students in the national-religious sector received 15,391 shekels each in Education Ministry funding in 2012, versus 14,013 shekels in the ultra-Orthodox sector (run by Shas and UTJ), 13,864 shekels in the Arab sector and 13,196 shekels in the public, secular Jewish sector.

http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/business/.premium-1.630529

Try doing that math if you are actually interested in accuracy.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
34. from September 2015:Israeli Arab Schools to Go on Strike - more recent than your article
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 03:14 AM
Jan 2016

The Israeli Arab school system will go on strike on Monday in solidarity with Christian schools, which have been on strike over budgets since the school year started on Tuesday.

Christian schools in Israel will remain closed today as educators step up their campaign to persuade the Education Ministry to reverse budget cuts they say are strangling these schools. A demonstration is planned outside the Prime Minister’s Office in Jerusalem today and Catholic church leaders have threatened to close churches and holy sites to foreign pilgrims and local worshipers. In addition, the Council of Arab Mayors and the union of parents’ associations for Arab schools have called for the wider Arab public in Israel to attend today’s demonstration and to close all Arab schools in the country on Monday, in solidarity with the Christian schools.

Some 33,000 pupils in 47 Christian schools have remained home since the start of the school year last week, with no solution from the Education Ministry in sight.

School administrators say the ministry has over the years been cutting funds from these schools, which are regarded as “recognized but unofficial” schools. Budget cuts have been so steep that the allocations from the Education Ministry cover only 29 percent of the costs of running the institutions. At the same time, the Education Ministry limits how much they can charge parents in tuition and fees.

read more: http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.674614

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
35. Nothing there about percentage of funds spent on education for different groups
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 08:05 AM
Jan 2016

Maybe try Wikipedia?

King_David

(14,851 posts)
30. Your math is obviously slanted
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 09:24 PM
Jan 2016

Why would that be?

What possible benifit would it be so be so obviously biased ?

Obviously is the operative word here.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
31. Evidence showing Israel in any light other than evil, nazi-like, racist....
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 10:22 PM
Jan 2016

.....must be minimized, censored, denied, or ignored.

You missed the memo.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
33. going by the figures you provided as proof of Naftali Bennett's being a champion of Israeli Arabs
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 03:10 AM
Jan 2016

that is what it amounts to

 

branford

(4,462 posts)
14. More polls.
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 10:09 PM
Jan 2016
http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/68-percent-of-Israeli-Arabs-oppose-recent-wave-of-terrorism-poll-finds-382755

It appears that about 32% of Israeli Arabs approve the recent wave of terror attacks in Israel, while a vast majority still prefer living in Israel compared to the Palestinian territories or elsewhere in the Arab and Muslim world.

Given much of the anti-Israel (and sometimes Antisemitic) rhetoric of the actual elected Israel Arab members of the Knesset, including what would be considered treason in much of the rest of the Western and democratic world and support for attacks against civilian Israelis, not to mention centuries of open hostilities, I'm surprised OP's number isn't lower.

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