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Israeli

(4,148 posts)
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 02:33 AM Mar 2016

BDS Target Ahava to Relocate From West Bank Into Israel

Boycott protests at its London store were so disruptive that Ahava closed the retail location in 2011.

Ora Coren Mar 10, 2016

Ahava, the Dead Sea cosmetics company that has been a major target of BDS for maintaining a manufacturing plant in the West Bank settlement of Mitzpeh Shalem, will be relocating the facility within Israel's pre-1967 borders.

The new site, further down the Dead Sea shore, is adjacent to Kibbutz Ein Gedi and is owned by the kibbutz. The new plant is slated to be more advanced and will also include a visitors' center.

In 2011, Ahava was forced to shutter its London store in Covent Garden after months of noisy demonstrations by pro-Palestinian groups. In moving facilities inside Israel proper and out of a West Bank, Ahava is following the lead of SodaStream, the carbonated beverage dispenser manufacturer, which relocated last year from the West Bank industrial zone of Mishor Adumim to the Negev. The move followed an aggressive campaign against SodaStream by the BDS movement abroad.

Among the other big Israeli exporters to transfer their West Bank operations in recent years are the Barkan winemaker, the Bagel-Bagel pretzel company and the Swedish-owned Mul-T-Lock lock manufacturer.

Continued @: http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.708194
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BDS Target Ahava to Relocate From West Bank Into Israel (Original Post) Israeli Mar 2016 OP
Also .... Israeli Mar 2016 #1
Great news for Palestinians 6chars Mar 2016 #2
Better news for Palestinians would be ..... Israeli Mar 2016 #4
there are other alternatives 6chars Mar 2016 #6
I'm a member of Gush Shalom 6chars..... Israeli Mar 2016 #8
You are the last righteous Jewish person left here, King_David Mar 2016 #9
I'm the only Israeli on here KD .... Israeli Mar 2016 #11
Jews are a people, King_David Mar 2016 #13
Palestinians are people too KD .... Israeli Mar 2016 #14
This is the Internet King_David Mar 2016 #15
Actually there is KD ..... Israeli Mar 2016 #18
My grandparents were born in Mandate Palestine King_David Mar 2016 #19
all that proves is that your posting from the general area of Israel Mosby Mar 2016 #22
No Mosby it does not .... Israeli Mar 2016 #24
So what Mosby Mar 2016 #25
Could be ..... Israeli Mar 2016 #27
Never realized there were different degrees of being Jewish? King_David Mar 2016 #29
Interesting and just like you told me too azurnoir Mar 2016 #17
Yup ....nt. Israeli Mar 2016 #20
Good, that's at least a start. Little Tich Mar 2016 #3
Love Ahava's bath salts. grossproffit Mar 2016 #5
I'm happy to hear that grossproffit...... Israeli Mar 2016 #7
So you don't support a boycott of Israeli products? oberliner Mar 2016 #10
How many times .... Israeli Mar 2016 #12
Trying to keep track of everyone is hard for an old fogie like me oberliner Mar 2016 #16
Well I am 65 oberliner .... Israeli Mar 2016 #21
do you own a lot of rental properties in Israel? Mosby Mar 2016 #23
You really know nothing about ... Israeli Mar 2016 #26
I applaud you oberliner Mar 2016 #30
I stopped buying... deathrind Mar 2016 #28
Sociologists decide to boycott Ariel University Israeli Mar 2016 #31
K&R azurnoir Mar 2016 #32
With regard to ..... Israeli Mar 2016 #33
Good. Shows how effective nonviolent activism should be. Ken Burch Mar 2016 #34
BDS are bigoted and often homophobic King_David Mar 2016 #35
Best article on BDS I have read recently Ken .... Israeli Mar 2016 #36
That article still promotes 1-state. It also demonstrates how BDS is bullshit... shira Mar 2016 #37
" NEITHER scenario is what your Gush Shalom movement advocates."........... Israeli Mar 2016 #38
Exactly. Uri Avnery distinguishes GS from BDS. They're incompatible. shira Mar 2016 #39
......and when we Anex shira ?.... Israeli Mar 2016 #40
When that happens, lemme know. Yossi Gurvitz & company... shira Mar 2016 #42
Absolute total nonsense shira ..... Israeli Mar 2016 #43
Exactly. Both sides need to grow on this a bit. Ken Burch Mar 2016 #41

Israeli

(4,148 posts)
1. Also ....
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 02:46 AM
Mar 2016
British security firm G4S pulling out of Israel

Company cites 'commercial reasons' for selling business interests, but BDS campaign takes credit after years of pressuring G4S.

Associated Press and Ynet
Published: 03.10.16, 17:25 / Israel News

Source: http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4776920,00.html

Israeli

(4,148 posts)
4. Better news for Palestinians would be .....
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 04:59 AM
Mar 2016

....ending the occupation and the settlement enterprise and ending the dream of our religious Right/Right wing for a ' Greater Israel '.

Nobody is happy with BDS 6chars ....but its a fact we are all learning to live with :

WATCH: BDS hits the main stage

The boycott, divestment and sanctions movement is making headlines around the world for putting Israeli products in its crosshairs. But Israeli cultural icons and institutions have been boycotted for years. And while Israeli artists feel isolated and unfairly targeted, for Palestinians they represent the occupying power.



Source : http://972mag.com/watch-bds-hits-the-main-stage/117765/

So either you support Israel within the Green Line or you support the messianic madmen of The Wild West Bank .....either you are for a Two State Solution or ???

Cant have a Two State Solution and "the occupation and the settlement enterprise and ending the dream of our religious Right/Right wing for a ' Greater Israel '.".....its real simple 6chars.....its either or .

6chars

(3,967 posts)
6. there are other alternatives
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 05:23 AM
Mar 2016

i cannot envision Israel successfully and forcibly evicting something like 15% of the Jewish population from their homes. if a government were to try this, it would result in civil war among Jews - literally, there would even be elements of IDF that would fight it. before that happens, the government would fall.

holding on to all the territory captured in 1967 is bad for Jews and Arabs with the conflict continuing until something breaks.

the solutions that have been approached seem to be the most reasonable given the circumstances, Israel holding heavily built areas along the border but not small far flung settlements, some west of Green Line land exchanged to Palestinians (in a way that is useful), strong security arrangements, etc.

even that, though, seems like it would just lead to more war if the resulting Palestinian state is radical. I believe it is profoundly mistaken to try to radicalize Palestinians now and to cut off all humanizing interactions between Palestinians and Jewish Israelis in the name of pressuring Israel. This (reasonably) makes the prospect of a Palestinian state harder for the majority of Israelis to swallow, and will push them away from possible agreements.

I also think it for a Palestinian state to succeed and not lead to a major war that dissolves any agreement, it will need economic viability - and if you took enmity out of the picture, the obvious path to that viability is through connection with more wealthy and advanced Israel. In fact, my dream peace agreement involves a great deal of expansion of economic ties, with Israel investing and aiding Palestinian development.

It is a dangerous game people are playing trying to destroy prospects for co-existence in order to put pressure on Israel. I think it is quite harmful for all sides. The best thing to do now is to lay groundwork for such a future, work toward trust and negotiations, exclude outside agitators, and operating so as to deescalate tensions.

I guess this makes me far right.

I understand you feel quite differently.

King_David

(14,851 posts)
9. You are the last righteous Jewish person left here,
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 07:19 AM
Mar 2016


And the only Jewish person to get along with the BDS crowd.

Great , Mazeltov.

Israeli

(4,148 posts)
11. I'm the only Israeli on here KD ....
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 07:56 AM
Mar 2016

.....and apart from being a Leftist secular post zionist ......I'm an atheist.

So you can drop the " righteous Jewish " sarcasm .

Your religion means as much to me as your American Jewish culture means to you .



King_David

(14,851 posts)
13. Jews are a people,
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 08:08 AM
Mar 2016

I too am an atheist.

Is this Jewish American culture different from Australian Jewish culture or Argentinian Jewish culture or South African Jewish culture....?

Yep the "I am the last righteous Jew" attitude is present in a few people from Mondoweiss to Silverstein to Hass to Blumenthal to Levy.... Israeli or not.

And as far as you being the only Israeli here?

Where do you get this crap from?

Israeli

(4,148 posts)
14. Palestinians are people too KD ....
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 08:41 AM
Mar 2016

....we are all " people " .

You define yourself through your Jewishness .........I dont .

And as far as you being the only Israeli here?

Where do you get this crap from?


Hey ....where are they then ?

King_David

(14,851 posts)
15. This is the Internet
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 09:41 AM
Mar 2016

There's no way of telling if you are even from Israel.

There have been people on the flotilla to Gaza claiming to be Jewish, and found out not to be , JVP claims to be a Jewish group although they may have more non Jewish members than others....

You have Alex Kane of Mondoweiss and 2 posters in this very group that think they are more Palestinian than Palestinians themselves and fancy themselves as spokespersons for that group.

This is the Internet, nothing is as it appears.

The views on Jews and Israel you express are nowhere near any views I've ever seen by any Israeli Jew ever , anywhere ... So who knows?

Israeli

(4,148 posts)
18. Actually there is KD .....
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 01:41 PM
Mar 2016

.....the Admins can see my IP address .....which proves exactly that , so off you run like a good boy and check with them .

" The views on Jews and Israel you express are nowhere near any views I've ever seen by any Israeli Jew ever , anywhere ... So who knows? "

Well KD , using yourself as an expert on anything to do with my country kind of proves my point , and I seriously doubt that you have met many Israelis , Jewish or otherwise .

BTW I agreed to meet you in Israel many moons ago .....you backed down , why was that ??

Israeli

(4,148 posts)
24. No Mosby it does not ....
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 03:09 PM
Mar 2016

I just checked to make sure ......says : Country / Region: Israel, HaMerkaz.

Mosby

(16,306 posts)
25. So what
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 03:13 PM
Mar 2016

You could be Christian, Muslim etc.

Why would we ASSUME that you and your family USED to be Jewish?

Your an atheist, good for you.

Or maybe your a Muslim, good for you.




Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
3. Good, that's at least a start.
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 04:05 AM
Mar 2016

Now, if Israel would be so kind to allow the Palestinians to extract Dead Sea salts and minerals, it would be one step towards a viable Palestinian economy. Currently, the Palestinians aren't allowed to extract any natural resources in the West Bank due to Apartheid.

grossproffit

(5,591 posts)
5. Love Ahava's bath salts.
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 05:00 AM
Mar 2016

It's a staple in our household. My husband loves the lavender, but I'm partial to the eucalyptus.

Israeli

(4,148 posts)
7. I'm happy to hear that grossproffit......
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 05:40 AM
Mar 2016

..........now you can continue to love them without supporting the occupation .
Instead you will be supporting Kibbutz Ein Gedi .....which is great by me

The products that my kibbutz produce have never been boycotted ...thats because we have never produced them over The Green Line

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
10. So you don't support a boycott of Israeli products?
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 07:55 AM
Mar 2016

As long as the company does not operate in the West Bank?

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
16. Trying to keep track of everyone is hard for an old fogie like me
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 09:46 AM
Mar 2016

Apologies - sometimes I am not sure which poster has which position.

Mosby

(16,306 posts)
23. do you own a lot of rental properties in Israel?
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 02:34 PM
Mar 2016

Just trying to figure out your angle in all this.

Israeli

(4,148 posts)
31. Sociologists decide to boycott Ariel University
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 02:36 AM
Mar 2016
The Israeli Sociological Society decided to 'refresh' a decision from 2010, declaring a boycott of the settlement-based academic institute. Education Minister Bennet responded, 'we have no intention of allowing boycotts.'

Shachar Chai
Published: 03.14.16, 14:49 / Israel News

The president of the Israeli Sociological Society (ISS) Professor Uri Ram declared Monday that the society will not cooperate with Ariel University, located in the northern West Bank.

The ISS stated that "the institute known as Ariel University is not located in the borders of the state of Israel, and so it is not a part of the sociological society's activities, which associates only with Israeli sociologists and institutes." The ISS explained that this is merely the renewal of a similar resolution adopted in 2010.

The ISS was founded 40 years ago, and has about 1,000 members. It's goals include promoting and encouraging sociological research and discussion in Israel. According to a list that was last updated in February, it has three members from Ariel University. Professor Ram, who lectures are Ben Gurion University of the Negev, began serving as ISS president about a month ago. At the moment, it is still unclear if the boycott resolution will actually be implemented by the ISS in practice, or if it is merely a statement of principle.

Continued @ http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4778290,00.html

Israeli

(4,148 posts)
33. With regard to .....
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 03:25 AM
Mar 2016

........my last post : Sociologists decide to boycott Ariel University ......and .....
The president of the Israeli Sociological Society (ISS) Professor Uri Ram
.

I have a quote for you azurnoir :

Identifying Israel with Jewry obscures the existence of the small but important post-Zionist movement in Israel, including the philosophers Adi Ophir and Anat Biletzki, the sociologist Uri Ram, the professor of theatre Avraham Oz and the poet Yitzhak Laor.

Judith Butler.

Read more at: http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/j/judithbutl642712.html







 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
34. Good. Shows how effective nonviolent activism should be.
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 06:58 PM
Mar 2016

Another reason people should see BDS as basically positive, rather than demonizing it.

King_David

(14,851 posts)
35. BDS are bigoted and often homophobic
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 08:15 PM
Mar 2016

Supported by extremists Left and extremists Right....

They once banned a Jew from NYC from performing at a reggae concert because he was a Jew but had nothing to say about a Gay hating homophobic scum of the earth group playing at the same festival.

Israeli

(4,148 posts)
36. Best article on BDS I have read recently Ken ....
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 06:11 AM
Mar 2016
http://972mag.com/latest-boycott-victories-signify-new-momentum-for-bds/117846/

For that to happen, both societies will need to be graced with a leadership which understands that Israelis and Palestinians have no choice but to live here together — as equals. Jewish Israelis will need to face the fact that abdicating their Jewish privilege is the only way to create real equality. And Palestinians will need to accept that regardless of how they got here 70 years ago, the vast majority of Israelis have nowhere else to go.

The boycott is not a solution — it is a tactic.
It is also not above criticism; the BDS movement could do far better about distinguishing between legitimate and illegitimate acts of boycott, of actively condemning and distancing itself from seemingly inevitable instances of anti-Semitism, and acknowledging the inherent shortcomings of a rights-based discourse in such an emotionally charged and multi-dimensional conflict.

Yet as long as there is no political or diplomatic horizon, as long as the power dynamic allows Israel to dictate the terms of any negotiations, as long as the occupation seems hopelessly unending, BDS is one of the most powerful non-violent tools available for Palestinians to fight for their fundamental rights, and for enlisting allies around the world to fight alongside them.
 

shira

(30,109 posts)
37. That article still promotes 1-state. It also demonstrates how BDS is bullshit...
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 06:24 AM
Mar 2016

The first paragraph you quoted is an argument for 1-state. I just posted an article which shows how phony the BDS version of 1-state truly is. No gay or women's rights, etc...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1134126189

And that's with a Jewish minority and BALAD seculars running that shit show.

But here's where BDS is really, really bulllshit: What's the point of pulling businesses out of the W.Bank when the BDS goal is 1-state? These businesses could remain in the W.Bank and still be part of BDS' 1-state nightmare. BDS should have no problem whatsoever with settlements because they help pave the way to 1-state.

They're bullshitters. If the BDS goal is 2-states and SEPARATION between the 2 peoples, then it makes sense they are against settlements and that they advocate for pushing Israeli businesses out of the W.Bank. It's not that they're naive and unaware. They're full of shit. The only 2 states they want is one pure Palestinian state with no Jews and another state in between the W.Bank and Gaza that has a Jewish minority (after 5 million Palestinians peacefully move in) living at best under BALAD style control.

NEITHER scenario is what your Gush Shalom movement advocates. GS's boycott and BDS are incompatible.

Israeli

(4,148 posts)
38. " NEITHER scenario is what your Gush Shalom movement advocates."...........
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 07:20 AM
Mar 2016
The Great BDS Debate

12/03/16

HELP! I am walking into a minefield. I can't help myself.

The minefield has a name: BDS – boycott, divestment, sanctions.
I am often asked about my attitude towards this international movement, which was started by Palestinian activists and has spread like wildfire throughout the world.

The Israeli government now considers this movement a major threat, more so, it seems to me, than Daesh or Iran. Israeli embassies all over the world are mobilized to fight it.

The main battleground is the academic world. Fanatical adherents of BDS are conducting fierce debates with equally fanatical adherents of Israel. Both sides use experienced debaters, diverse propaganda ploys, phony arguments and outright lies. It is an ugly debate, and getting uglier.

BEFORE EXPRESSING my own attitude, I would like to clear the ground. What is it all about?
For the last 70 years, since age 23, I have devoted my life to peace – Jewish-Arab peace, Israeli-Palestinian peace.

Many people on both sides of the divide speak of peace. By now, to paraphrase Dr. Johnson, "peace" has become the last refuge of the hate-mongers.

But what does peace mean? Peace is made between two enemies. It presupposes the existence of both. When one side destroys the other, as Rome destroyed Carthage, it puts an end to the war. But it is not peace.

Peace means that the two sides not only stop hostilities against each other. It means conciliation, living together side by side, and, hopefully, cooperating and, eventually, even getting to like each other.

Therefore, proclaiming a wish for peace while conducting a mutual hate campaign just isn't the real thing. Whatever it is, it is not a struggle for peace.

BOYCOTT IS a legitimate instrument of political struggle.

It is also a basic human right. Everybody is entitled to buy or not to buy whatever he or she desires. Everybody is entitled to ask others to buy or not to buy certain merchandise, for whatever reason.


Millions of Israelis boycott shops and restaurants that are not "kosher". They believe that God told them so. Since I am a strict atheist, I never followed that call. But I always respect the attitude of the religious.

When the Nazis came to power in Germany, American Jews organized a boycott against German wares, The Nazis reacting by proclaiming a day of boycott of Jewish shops in Germany. I was 9 years old and still clearly remember the sight: brown shirted Nazis posted in front of Jewish shops, waving signs "Germans, defend yourselves! Don't buy from Jews!"

The first boycott against the occupation was proclaimed by Gush Shalom, the Israeli peace organization to which I belong. That was long before BDS came into being.

Our call was addressed to the Israeli public. We called on them to boycott the products of the settlements in the West Bank, the Gaza Strip and the Golan Heights. To make it easier, we published a list of all the enterprises concerned.

I also took part in talks with the European Union, here and in Brussels, asking them not to encourage the building of settlements on conquered land. It took a long time for the Europeans to decide that products of the settlements must be clearly marked.

Buying or not buying, whatever the motive, is a private affair. Therefore, it is very difficult to know how many Israelis followed our call. Our impression is that quite a considerable number of Israelis did and do.

We did not ask people to boycott Israel as such. We considered this counter-productive. Faced with a threat against the state, Israelis unite. This would mean pushing decent, well-meaning citizens into the arms of the settlers. Our aim was the very opposite: to separate the general public from the settlers.

THE BDS movement has quite a different point of view. It was initiated by Palestinian nationalists, directed at a world audience and totally indifferent to Israeli sentiments.


A boycott movement does not need a precise program. The general aim of ending the occupation and enabling the Palestinians to found their own state in the occupied territories would have been enough. But BDS published right from its beginning a clear political program. And there the problem starts.

The proclaimed aims of BDS are three: ending the occupation and the settlements, assuring equality for Arabs inside Israel, furthering the return of the refugees.

This sound innocuous, but is not. It does not mention peace with Israel. It does not mention the two-state solution. But the main point is the third.

The exodus of half the Palestinian people from their homes in the 1948 war – partly fleeing the fighting in a long and cruel war, partly deliberately evicted by the Israeli forces – is a complicated story. I was an eye-witness and have extensively written about it in my books. (The second part of my memoirs has just appeared in Hebrew.) The salient fact is that they were not allowed to return after the end of the war, and that their homes and lands were given to Jewish immigrants, many of whom were refugees from the Holocaust.

Reversing that process now is as realistic as demanding that white Americans go back to where their ancestors came from, and returning the land to its original native owners. It would mean the abolition of the State of Israel and the creation of a State of Palestine from the Mediterranean to the Jordan River, a state with an Arab majority and a Jewish minority.
How can this be achieved without a war with a nuclear-armed Israel? How does this relate to peace?

All serious Palestinian negotiators until now have tacitly conceded this point. I spoke several times with Yasser Arafat about it. The tacit understanding is that under a final peace agreement, Israel will undertake to take back a symbolic number of refugees, and that all the others and their descendents – now some five or six million – will receive adequate compensation. All this as a part of the two-state solution.

This is a peace program. Actually, the only peace program there is. The BDS aims are not.

THE OTHER side of the furious debate at Oxford and Harvard is even less peace-oriented.
Legions of Zionist "explainers" – many of them paid professionals – are let loose to rebut and push back the BDS attack. They start by denying the most obvious facts: that the State of Israel is oppressing the Palestinian people, that a merciless military occupation is turning the lives of the Palestinians into misery, that "peace" has become a cuss-word in Israel.

A few days ago an extreme-right Israeli TV commentator announced, only half in jest: "The danger of peace has passed!"

THE SIMPLEST way to exorcise and outlaw the BDS people is to accuse them of anti-Semitism. This puts an end to any sensible discussion, especially in Germany and generally abroad. People who deny the Holocaust are no partners for debate.

There is no evidence whatsoever for the accusation that the majority of BDS sympathizers are indeed anti-Semites. I am convinced that the vast majority of them are devoted idealists, whose heart goes out to the downtrodden Palestinians, as Jews throughout the ages have rushed to the aid of oppressed people, whether American blacks or Russian mujiks.

However, and this must be said, there are some BDS adherents who utter statements with an unmistakable anti-Semitic smell. For an honest-to-goodness anti-Semite of the old school, BDS is nowadays a safe pulpit from which they can preach their odious gospel, under the guise of anti-Zionism and anti-Israelism.


I would like (again) to warn the Palestinians and their true friends that the anti-Semites are in practice their dangerous enemies. It is they who are pushing Jews from all over the world to settle in Israel. These anti-Semites don't give a damn for the Palestinians, they exploit their plight in order to indulge in their own age-old anti-Jewish perversion.

And conversely: Jews who happily join in the new wave of Islamophobia, under the false impression that they are thereby helping Israel, commit a similar grievous mistake. Today's Islam-haters are yesterday's and tomorrow's Jew-haters.

PALESTINIANS NEED peace in order to get rid of the occupation and attain, at long last, freedom, independence and a normal life.

Israelis need peace because without it, we will sink deeper and deeper into the morass of an eternal war, lose the democracy which was our pride and become a despised apartheid state.

The BDS debate can sharpen the mutual hatreds, widen the abyss between the two peoples, tearing them even further apart. Only active cooperation between the peace camps on both sides can attain the one thing both sides desperately need:

PEACE.


Source : http://zope.gush-shalom.org/home/en/channels/avnery/1457710016/
 

shira

(30,109 posts)
39. Exactly. Uri Avnery distinguishes GS from BDS. They're incompatible.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 09:04 AM
Mar 2016

He clearly shows how odious BDS is. I'm almost at 100% agreement with that article.

You should post this as a new thread.

I'll actually do that. It's important.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
42. When that happens, lemme know. Yossi Gurvitz & company...
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 07:56 PM
Mar 2016

...have been making idiotic predictions for years.

Israel is about to bomb Iran, turning into a non-democracy...

Great for noobs, idiocy for those who understand his crap is nonsense & propaganda.

Israeli

(4,148 posts)
43. Absolute total nonsense shira .....
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 02:33 AM
Mar 2016
Israeli government votes to support annexing West Bank settlements

By Michael Schaeffer Omer-Man |Published November 10, 2014

Whether or not the proposal becomes law, the vote itself broadcasts to the world that this government opposes a negotiated two-state solution.

The Israeli government voted to endorse legislation to extend Israeli law to settlements in the West Bank on Sunday.

What does would that mean, you ask? For 47 years, the primary source of law in the West Bank has been the IDF military law code. Applying civilian law to parts —or all — of the West Bank would be tantamount to annexation, or at least be a creeping but concrete step toward that goal.

Irrespective of whether or not this latest proposal is ever passed, the vote itself broadcasts to the entire world that the majority of ministers in the Israeli government support annexing West Bank settlements — a “unilateral move” if there ever was one.

In fact, even if the current version of the bill goes no further than it already has, it will have accomplished its authors’ goal: to move Israelis ever closer to stomaching the idea of annexation.


Events like the fall of the Berlin Wall are anomalies: most change happens gradually and it is often not even noticed until it’s too late. That is how the Israeli Right feels about the international and domestic support for Palestinian statehood these days, and that is how the Israeli Right plans to subvert that same idea. Baby steps. Facts on the ground.

The bill’s author, Knesset member Orit Struck, herself a settler in the West Bank city of Hebron, explained to settler news outlet Arutz Sheva a few weeks ago how she and MK Yariv Levin have prepared 10 draft laws that would annex the West Bank in stages: first individual settlements, then Area C, and eventually, everything West of the Jordan River.

But Israel is not ready to stomach full annexation, Struck explained, “[w]e must aim towards something that the Israeli public, with its present situation, would be able to digest.”

“As of now, it is impossible to create such a basis of support for the idea of annexing the entire area including Ramallah, Nablus and more cities,” she added. “That’s why we must continue in what has been the Zionist way, which has always been a gradual path.”


It’s not really newsworthy that someone like MK Struck is attempting to advance plans to annex the West Bank, or even that she has a plan to do it subversively. After all, she was chosen to become a Knesset member by none other than settlement champion Naftali Bennett (he even ran for office on an annexation platform).

Struck it seems, like many other far-more-palatable Israeli politicians, views the current situation — sky rocketing nationalist and racist sentiments combined with the fear accompanying what many believe could be a looming, dark period of violence and repression — as a political opportunity.

In periods like this, stained by ongoing violence, societal polarization and political desperation, one of the most dangerous things that can happen is for responsible leadership to be shoved aside by populism and political opportunism.

What we are seeing today is the true face of Israel’s government and its ministers: one that unabashedly supports — in practice as well as in rhetoric — the expansion and annexation of illegal settlements. It is a government that opposes Palestinian statehood, and has no intention of ending the occupation of its own accord.

The European Union’s new foreign policy chief, Federica Mogherini, made her first official visit to Israel a couple of days ago. In Jerusalem she expressed hopes for “a new start,” ostensibly referring to the growing animosity between the EU and Israel over the latter’s unrepentant and unrelenting settlement expansion.

There may be a new start in the cards, but not the one Mogherini is hoping for.

Source: http://972mag.com/israeli-government-votes-to-support-annexing-west-bank-settlements/98604/
 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
41. Exactly. Both sides need to grow on this a bit.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 03:26 PM
Mar 2016

And it's going to be a lot easier to get the Palestinian side to grow in their views if their lives are made easier, if the relentlessness of the Occupation is at least significantly eased.

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