Stanford Professor Recommends Anti-Semitic Website to Readers, Then Kind of Takes it Back

[shira]

What a shocker, as another BDS leader throws his lot in with Holocaust Deniers & White Supremacists - proving once again the kind of scum associated with the fascist BDS movement.

Last week, Stanford student senator Gabriel Knight caused a campus firestorm when he claimed that saying “Jews control the media, economy [and] government” was “not anti-Semitism.” Knight’s remark was forcefully denounced on campus, the student paper withdrew its endorsement of his campaign, and a day later, Knight ended his bid for reelection to the student senate. But an article that appeared in Salon on Monday suggests this was not an isolated incident of anti-Jewish prejudice on campus.

In an ostensibly anti-Israel piece entitled “9 things you need to know about the Israeli occupation of Palestine,” Stanford professor of comparative literature David Palumbo-Liu, a strident supporter of academic, cultural, and economic boycotts of Israel, recommended that readers eschew the “mainstream media” in favor of an anti-Semitic hate site.

“Here’s what you can do,” he wrote. “Find out more on your own from multiple sources—do not rely solely on the US mainstream media for your information. Look at Mondoweiss, the Jewish Voice for Peace, the American Friends Service Committee, Electronic Intifada, If Americans Knew.”

Several of these outlets have been credibly accused of publishing anti-Semitic content. But one of them has been so blatant in its anti-Jewish invective that it has even been denounced by other members on Palumbo’s list. If Americans Knew (IAK), a non-profit founded by activist Alison Weir, has the rare distinction of being condemned for furthering anti-Semitism by the Anti-Defamation League, Jewish Voice for Peace, and the U.S. Campaign to End the Occupation.

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[Bohemianwriter]

1. If it's anti-Semitic to criticise Zionism...

For the poison it is and the actions inspired by Zionism.
Then it must be anti-German for criticising the ideology that got talking points from Zionism.Th

I also find it strange that the same people who whines about anti-Semitism is just as vile in their hatred towards Palestinians as genuine anti-Semites have towards Jews.

The Zionist extremist goes way too far when they label the son of two Jewish Holocaust survivors as "anti-Israel" can be read by AIPAC extremists as being "anti-semitic" by that logic. Why? His cardinal "sin" was to point out that also Israel must follow the law. His bashers and haters can be by their own logic be labeled as anti-Semitic and vote Hillary or GOP ponly because they hate Jews and insist that only "real Jews" are above the law if they are Israelis, torturing and killing Palestinian kids.

Israel is by definition a terrorist state the way they target civilians and create their own terrorists.

I would rather say that there is an anti-Palestinian sentiment among the opponents of free speech against the crimes of Israel. Isreal and zionists have become their own worst enemies. They have adopted the methods and rhetoric from the enemy who once tried to kill Bernie Sanders' parents.

History teaches us that we learn nothing from History

[shira]

2. White supremacists, Holocaust Deniers, & neo-Nazi supporters of terror against Jews...

....tend to be bigoted Jew haters. Nature of the beast.

BDS is saturated with fascist & racist scum who hate Palestinians almost as much as they hate Jews.

It's far and away the most regressive western movement in the world today.

[rjsquirrel]

3. Lol

Whatever that even means, I'd say armed right wing militias are worse.

Yes let's lynch this guy for mentioning a website.

I'm anti BDS but the strident invective of your polemics makes me reconsider, sort of like how Bernie Sanders' "supporters" are what make me a Clinton voter.

[bemildred]

4. Inquiring minds are not allowed when it comes to I/P.

Opinions are dangerous and must be monitored and managed. It can damage your mind. Look at me, I'm just a shell now, from my constant reading of lunatics and dissenters. And we sure don't want any of our future leaders doing any of that thinking either. We want them to be completely naive the first time they run into hate speech and propaganda.

[rjsquirrel]

6. True that

On both sides, at least from the perspective of the AMerican left, there is a will to ignorance.

But the sheer stridency of the anti-BDS crowd (here on DU not least) just really makes you wonder what they are so flipped out about. Either it's a silly movement or it's the most dangerous anti-semitic thing ever.


As an American Jew (of atheist persuasion however), in my view Israel is not my problem or my country's problem. Israel is not my country. Israelis are not my people. Nor are Palestinians. I believe that if the world walked away and told the lot of them to work it out or get fucked we'd get more accomplished toward eventual peace than we will get from screaming toddlers with weapons on both sides.

[bemildred]

7. I concur.

The longer I am here the less I think yelling ever convinces anyone that you are right. But on the internet, a lot of times, it is just about shutting someone up, and for that it can work. But that tends to exacerbate the problem you mention, you make enemies, not friends.

[rjsquirrel]

8. Well said

I especially hate how both sides spit out dehumanizing language like its nothing.


For example, shira's favorite word for anyone who disagrees with her/him is "scum."

as soon as I see that word I know I'm dealing with a bigot.

[shira]

9. LOL. The problem is that the BDS movement has proven itself over & over....

...to be an extremely racist, bigoted movement. Most states in the US are moving to outlaw it, as well as European nations. Obama has acknowledged that anti-Zionism is antisemitic & BDS is anti-Zionism on crack.

I would think we'd agree that bigoted racists (especially those active in their bigotry) are scum bags.

What I find here especially with the far Left is that they're WAY too tolerant of Jew haters. I expect that on the far Right & I've basically concluded the far Left isn't really any better than the far Right. It's hard to distinguish between the 2 these days. Ergo, the OP in which the Leftwing Professor cannot distinguish between "good" anti-Zionists and White Supremacist Holocaust Deniers in movements like IfAmericansKnew and Mondoweiss.

[Bohemianwriter]

13. While whining about how critics of Zionism are just like Nazis..

You refuse to see the racist ideology that Zionism is and the two by four in your own eye...

If you support what Israel is doing, then why do you bother to call yourself liberal?

Calling "far leftists" "jew haters" because they don't like Netanyahu and the deeply racist AIPAC is disingenous to say the least.

If you call Muslims or Palestinians terrorists by default, you are a racist.

If you think that only Israelis have rights,and Palestinains deserve their fate, you are a supremacist.

If you're reaction to every criticism of Israels RW regime with "Israel have a right to defend themselves! Why do you hate the Jews and love terrorists who hates Israel for no reason"? Then they label you as a Nazi who probably would have operated the gas chamber himself if given a chance.

Same thing goes the other way. When Israel and their allies constsantly bombard Palestine with both bomb and demagogurey to the public to make them hate these "terrorists", they want to silence the people who see how history repeats itself.

Then go for the "you're a racist" label while continuing to demonize the Palestinians and Muslims in general.

While I attack ideology, some people play identity politics to smear the ones who disagree with them, and silence any disgussion. These people do not have the self awareness that they are using the same tactics as authoritarians who don't like history, or have their bubbles burst.

[shira]

17. Admit it - the only reason you connect Israel/Zionism to Naziism is....Jews. That's bigoted.

I'm sure you don't compare any other nation or political ideology to Naziism.

Case closed

You refuse to see the racist ideology that Zionism is and the two by four in your own eye...

Zionism means equal rights for Jewish people indigenous to their historic homeland. That's liberal, not racist.

If you support what Israel is doing, then why do you bother to call yourself liberal?

Israel's a very liberal country. No other country in their situation would act more liberal. Of course I support Israel as a proud Zionist.

Calling "far leftists" "jew haters" because they don't like Netanyahu and the deeply racist AIPAC is disingenous to say the least.

It's not Netanyahu they hate. They hate Rabin and every leftwing Israeli Zionist leader too. You're fooling no one with that bullshit.

If you call Muslims or Palestinians terrorists by default, you are a racist.

I call Hamas, Islamic Jihad, and the PLO terrorists and that's not racist. Sorry.

If you think that only Israelis have rights,and Palestinains deserve their fate, you are a supremacist.

I think the Palestinians should've accepted their own state in 1947. There'd be no conflict today. OTOH, I'm pretty sure you're against any 2 state solution because you don't believe Jews deserve their own state in their indigenous homeland. If so, THAT's racist and supremacist.

If you're reaction to every criticism of Israels RW regime with "Israel have a right to defend themselves! Why do you hate the Jews and love terrorists who hates Israel for no reason"? Then they label you as a Nazi who probably would have operated the gas chamber himself if given a chance.

Again with the BS criticism of RW Israel. Name a leftwing Zionist leader you support. Just one. I predict crickets in response because I know your game & you're not fooling me.

Same thing goes the other way. When Israel and their allies constsantly bombard Palestine with both bomb and demagogurey to the public to make them hate these "terrorists", they want to silence the people who see how history repeats itself.

Translated: What you mean is you're really against criticizing Hamas and friends. You equate the Palestinian people to their oppressive fascist, racist leadership so you're against any criticism of a terror entity like Hamas. How am I wrong?

Then go for the "you're a racist" label while continuing to demonize the Palestinians and Muslims in general.

I call racists out for who they are. Funny thing is racists never admit they're racist. And criticizing Hamas is not demonizing Palestinians or Muslims in general. Got it, Ace?

While I attack ideology, some people play identity politics to smear the ones who disagree with them, and silence any disgussion. These people do not have the self awareness that they are using the same tactics as authoritarians who don't like history, or have their bubbles burst.

You attack ideology? Okay, prove it.

Go on, attack Hamas' genocidal, racist ideology. Fire away.

[rjsquirrel]

33. I'm not on the "far left"

I'm a centrist Clinton supporter. And a Jew.

And I think you are as bigoted as a Hamas supporter. Your language is so strident and totalizing and racist. You dont see Palestinians as human beings and you don't see your ideological opponents as human either. You've absorbed and become the hatred you oppose. Your anger seethes in every word you post. It just be very lonely being so enraged all the time.

Again, my position is that as an American I think we shouldn't take sides, we should withdraw all aid to Israel and Palestine, and we should refuse to negotiate with either Israeli OR Palestinian terrorists until they eschew violence, which in my view includes the Netanyahu government as much as Hamas. Fuck both sides. It's not America's problem. And I'm sick of it being used as distorting propaganda in our domestic politics.

[shira]

34. LoL...

And I think you are as bigoted as a Hamas supporter. Your language is so strident and totalizing and racist. You dont see Palestinians as human beings and you don't see your ideological opponents as human either. You've absorbed and become the hatred you oppose. Your anger seethes in every word you post. It just be very lonely being so enraged all the time.

You too? Criticizing terrorists and their Jew hating supporters is bigoted?

How about you provide just 1 example of my "racist" language?
And where do u get that I don't see Palestinians as human beings?

Do you just make this shit up?

[King_David]

35. Well

Have you read Clintons views on Israel.
One of the most pro-Israel candidates we have.
Best you adapt I guess.

[King_David]

5. You should read DU rules where it comes to comparing Israel to Nazis

Your post is disgusting.

And very much the same as this one :


http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141402454#post103

[shira]

10. Funny how that works. Israel = Nazis is perceived by some as legit criticism.

The only reason that vile parallel is made is because Jews are involved.

The comparison is beyond disgusting in that it equates Jews to those who wiped out 1/3 of the world's Jews. It would be like equating African Americans or BlackLivesMatter to the KKK.

No other political movement & no other country is compared to Nazis like Zionism/Israel. It's just because....Jews.

[Bohemianwriter]

11. Actions and attitudes speak louder than words...

Perhaps you should call Dov Hikin and get the ADL to silence people who disagree with you and the disgusting actions by Israel and Bibi permanently.

http://mondoweiss.net/2014/08/holocaust-survivors-palestinians/

http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.612072

https://www.rt.com/news/333240-war-jewish-austria-women/

http://www.theweek.co.uk/24773/german-protestors-dare-compare-israelis-nazis

https://electronicintifada.net/content/auschwitz-survivor-i-can-identify-palestinian-youth/8268


Dov Hikin wants to racially profile people from Islamic countries and defends juveniles who commits hate crimes in NYC because the victim were Muslim, and the perpetrator were Jewish. He, has become his oppressor. That is my point!
Israel has become its oppressor, punishing Palestinians for the crimes of Christian Europeans with American cheerleaders who except Palestinians to accept their fate and shut up about it!

Besides, there are several Holocaust survivors who agrees with me. Historical similarities shall never be silenced by sensitivities who don't mind far worse actions than just words. It's about time people burst their own bubble and see the ugly sides of both USA as well as what Israel has been doing against the Palestinians with the blessings of the super powers

So what is worst?

Calling out Israel for not following the law, basing their entire existence of ethnic and religious supremacy spearheaded by Bibi and Likud, or the acts og missiling Palestinian kids, labeling them as terrorists to defend their slaughter? Care to take a weekend in Gaza during an IDF air raid?
Or spend some time on the West Bank as a Palestinian with ultra-religious settlers who move in last week as neighbours?
Knowin the definition of the words is also knowing by experience. I don't know how many wars you've been through, or how many times people are being labeled as terrorists purely based on what religion they belong to or what ethnicity they have. Palestinians are being consitently labeld as terrorist who hates Jews as defense to slaughter them with American made missiles and American tax dollars and Israeli hands.

If you support these RW policies of Israel, why are do you consider yourself liberal? What Israel is doing is collective punishment. I come from a family who once suffered from such atrocitie during WW2. Someting called the Tælavåg affair. After a shoot out with the Abwehr, the Germans took the entire community and put them in camps and prisons. Consider Gaza one giant prison where IDF can go bird hunting where they have cut the wings off the birds - just the way Dick Cheney is hunting. It is because of this, I have studied WW2 since I was a kid, and still entire in the bag of Israel, and hardly considered Palestinians as humans, just people who stood iin the way of the Israelites. After some war experience myself, some more studies and the final growing up to do, I finally realised that everything I learned in school was wrong.


Just a question:

Do you consider Israels policies to be liberal, adhering to the Geneva convension?


As my comparison goes I see that some people love to take things out of context and make their own flawed conclusion with the intenstion. Just to silence LEGIT criticism of acts in clear violation of so many international laws.

History teaches us that we learn nothing from History.

Je suis Charlie

[King_David]

12. I didn't bother reading a post written by someone comparing Israeli Jews to Nazis

It just doesn't interest me at all.

I'm a proud Democrat , Bernie supporter , Jew .... And nothing you write has any value to me after reading your disgusting bigoted original post.

[Bohemianwriter]

14. The only bigot here is you who don't bother to read. No wonder you're in a tizzy...

Just like a FOX viewer, you get hangups on words and not the disgusting actions of your RW regime who destroys Palestine as we speak.
Supporting Bibi is NOT being a liberal!

Why do you think that Israel is above the law?

[shira]

16. Trying to pull the fake Rightwingery thing? The Palestinian cause is Rightwing...

In fact, there's absolutely nothing about it that's progressive or liberal in any conceivable way.

Think about it.

If you can name one thing that's progressive or liberal about the Palestinian cause as you know it, feel free to fire away!

===============

Now name a leftwing Zionist you approve of.

Go on, prove it's just RW Israel you're against and that you support leftwing Israelis like Rabin, Peres, Meir, Ben Gurion....

Betcha can't.

[Bohemianwriter]

15. You're nothing but a child! Grow up and smell reality!

[shira]

18. Is it fair to call Hamas & the PLO nazi organizations for their Jew hatred...

....and incitement to murder Jews?

Fair is fair if you want to go all Godwin.

[Bohemianwriter]

19. HAMAS is a creation of Israel...

Without the terrorist acts of the Zionists, there wouldn't be any HAMAS...

It's as fair to call Hamas terrorists as it's fair to call the Native Americans the WASPs killed off as terrorists.

Their hatred towards the occupier is as rational as the hatred any occupied people have for their oppressor.

I know that in the eyes of anti-Semitic Zionists hate Palestinians and think that any Palestinian death is a result of "self defense" and any retaliation from them is labeled as terrorism.

The logical flaw of the notion that Israel and USA er the good guys by default and stand above the law.

Peace

[shira]

20. No they're not, but it's telling you can't criticize Hamas.

You cry racism and Islamophobia but have nothing to say about Hamas' genocidal Jew hatred.

You also just compared Hamas to native Americans. That's just sick. Native Americans don't deserve that.

And as I thought, you equate all Palestinians with Hamas. Talk about racism. Palestinian moderates, women, gays, and christians aren't Hamas. I knew you were against criticizing Hamas. You proved my point.

[Bohemianwriter]

21. Hamas is what Bibi and Likud wanted...

They wanted the "good enemy".

As far as I am concerned, they create each other. Hamas is the far-right party of Palestine, and Likud the party of extremists of Israel.
Hamas was elected in Gaza, remember? They were elected after USA and Israel forced upon them an "election" after Fatah started to talk about unification of the fractions in Palestine.

Israel didn't like that, and wanted someone else in power in Palestine. Hamas was the result. Seems they liked the result of the election even less, and found excuses to further violate the Geneva convention and provoke a war.

If you cared an ounce for Palestinians, you would call for an end to the blockade of Palestine and let them keep whatever is left of their fractured country to their own rule without outside intervention or force.

Just a friendly reminder:



Do you support this?

Looks more and more like Native American reservation than a country...

Peace

[Bohemianwriter]

25. Palestine before Zionism:

http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/new-documents-reveal-early-palestinian-attitudes-toward-zionist-settlements-1.475085

http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_early_palestine_prezionist_people.php

http://www.geopolitics.us/the-truth-about-zionism/

So if HAMAS is the ugly beast in the room that was created in a vacuum, what is STERN, IRGUN, Haganah and heavily militarized illegal settlements on the West Bank then?
A response to Palestinian aggression who refuses to give up their homes to it's "rightful owners" whose ancestors may have populated the area some 2000 years ago?

http://www.geopolitics.us/the-truth-about-zionism/

Zionists claiming they are populating a land without people.

http://www.wrmea.org/jews-for-justice/the-origin-of-the-palestine-israel-conflict-zionism-and-the-holocaust.html

http://972mag.com/before-zionism-the-shared-life-of-jews-and-palestinians/118408/

HAMAS is a consequence of Zionism. Not the cause of it.

How Israel helped create Hamas:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2014/07/30/how-israel-helped-create-hamas/

http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/ZER403A.html

[leftynyc]

27. You can't even call hamas

terrorists - that's pathetic and tells everyone all they need to know. And your tag of "peace" is nothing but a disgusting joke considering your defense of terrorists. hamas is an outbreak from the muslim brotherhood who were ACTUAL nazi sympathizers - how disgusting you can't even call them the terrorist scum they are. And defending the loathed bds folks who hug their anti semites so very close. Thanks for outing yourself within 1000 DU posts - saves tons of time.

[Fozzledick]

23. Mondoweiss, RT and Electricintifada.

Yes, we can all see where you're coming from.

[Bohemianwriter]

24. Are you so naive...

to think that Palestinian resistance came out of nothing?

Are you if the same rationale that Palestinians have Israel for their "freedom" the same way as the 9-11 hijackers "hate us for our freedom"?

The clue is, Einstein, the Palestinian resistance comes as a result of the ideology of ethnic cleansing!

But I guess it's easy for an American tro support ethnic cleanisng based on religion andf ethnicity since that is the Americdan legacy.

Tell me, do you have the same concern about the rights of Native Americans as you have for illegal settlers and racist policies of the Zionists?

People who blindly supports Israel and Bibi are nothing but RWers who holds Israel to a different standard as they hold Palestinians or Muslims in general and insist on blaming Muslims for the attrocities committed by IDF or USA.

Care to explain this?







History teaches us that we learn nothing from History.

What I find hilarious is how Americans are living in their own bubble, making the Zionists look like victims of Palestinian aggression and provokation. As if it was the Palestinians kicking out Jews from their own homes after coming from somewhere else.

[leftynyc]

28. That poster has outed

him/herself so thoroughly with that post. All Jew (not just Israeli, JEWS) hating websites. Pathetic and disgusting.

[King_David]

30. I can't even converse with that poster

Pretty disgusting stuff posted here.

[leftynyc]

32. But the Jerusalem Post

gets whined about. Can you believe the pathetic hypocrisy?

[Little Tich]

22. I have a problem with If Americans Knew and Alison Weir due to their anti-Semitism.

It was clumsy of Palumbo-Liu to recommend If Americans Knew, but as he's no newbie to the subject, it makes me wonder... Anyway, he later claimed that the website of If Americans Knew "provides much useful information from reliable, neutral sources", so I had a peek at their website. I don't have to go further than the main page to see some serious flawed statistical graphs that don't portray the real circumstances. Scrolling down, I can see a reference to the notorious maps of Palestinian loss of land 1947 to present. No information from reliable neutral sources here...

I don't believe that Palumbo-Liu is an anti-Semite or one of the bad guys, but I did read his article "Brutal, ugly & illegal: 9 things you need to know about the Israeli occupation of Palestine", (https://www.salon.com/2016/04/11/brutal_ugly_illegal_9_things_you_need_to_know_about_the_israeli_occupation_of_palestine/) and frankly, there's some cherry-picking of the facts.


The rest of the OP is Tablet Mag mush.

[Bad Dog]

26. The sad truth is that when faced with a genuine Nazi the Israelis fall over themselves

to welcome him.

History is a great teacher, but sometimes it packs a nasty sense of irony. A case in point: South African Prime Minister John Vorster’s visit to the Yad Vashem Holocaust memorial in Jerusalem in April 1976, where he laid a wreath to the victims of the German Reich he once extolled.

It’s bad enough that a former Nazi sympathizer was treated like an honored guest by the Jewish state. Even worse was the purpose behind Vorster’s trip to Israel: to cement the extensive military relationship between Israel and the apartheid regime, a partnership that violated international law and illicitly provided the white-minority government with the weaponry and technology to help sustain its grip on power and its oppression of the black majority over two decades.

Like many illicit love affairs, the back-door relationship between Israel and the apartheid regime was secret, duplicitous, thrilling for the parties involved — and ultimately damaging to both. Each insisted at the time that theirs was just a minor flirtation, with few regrets or expressions of remorse. Inevitably it ended badly, tainting everyone it touched, including leaders of American Jewish organizations who shredded their credibility by endorsing and parroting the blatant falsehoods they were fed by Israeli officials. And it still hovers like a toxic cloud over Israel’s international reputation, providing ammunition to those who use the comparison between Israel’s 43-year military rule over Palestinians and the now-defunct system of white domination known as apartheid to seek to delegitimize the Jewish state.

http://foreignpolicy.com/2010/05/24/israels-most-illicit-affair/

[leftynyc]

29. If you want to go back

40 years to prove a stupid point, how about slightly further back to show that the Palestinians made a colossal fuck up by not accepting their state in 1948. Then just keep getting worse and worse, thoroughly corrupt leaders right up to when they voted in ACTUAL terrorist hamas into power just a few years ago. Yes, we all know Israel isn't perfect but trying to tag Israel with mistakes from 40 years ago while ignoring the election of terrorist hamas just a few years ago is telling everyone exactly where you're coming from. Keep defending a group that houses their weapons underneath their children in schools and hospitals - it's extremely telling.

[King_David]

31. Yep

Next will be the posts about the USS Liberty and the bombing of the King David hotel - just wait , it's all pretty predictable.