World Turns A Blind Eye To Israeli Apartheid

[Purveyor]

Israel has brought Apartheid back to life, with US backing preventing Tel Aviv from prosecution at the International Criminal Court, former UN Special Rapporteur on human rights John Dugard told RT in an exclusive interview.

According to Dugard, the main reason preventing the Israeli-Palestinian conflict from being solved is the international community’s unwillingness to look into the region’s problems.

He believes that in order to settle the dispute fairly a Palestinian state with a capital in east Jerusalem must be created, with Israel existing in the boundaries set in 1948-49.

The professor of international law has compared Israel’s current policies in the West Bank to Apartheid, a system of racial segregation, which curtailed the rights of the black people in South Africa during the rule of National Party governments 1948-1994.

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http://rt.com/op-edge/palestine-human-rights-dugard-un-328/

[holdencaufield]

1. Probably because it doesn't exist

[virgogal]

2. + 1

[King_David]

27. +1

[azurnoir]

3. In the West Bank Israel has 2 sets of laws

one that applies to settlers and one that applies to native Palestinians but it seems for some that's just a-okay see here on this thread

[oberliner]

4. The Palestinian Authority makes the laws for the Palestinians in the West Bank

Are you not aware of this?

[azurnoir]

5. in area A 18% of the West Bank the PA makes the laws

why do you post such misleading information here? or do you not know this?

[oberliner]

8. Which is where 96 percent of Palestinians live

Israelis aren't even allowed to set foot in these areas.

[azurnoir]

11. thankyou for admitting that 2+ million Palestinians have been crowded into 18% of the land n/t

[oberliner]

12. The population density is about about the same as Israel

There are major urban areas where the majority of the population lives, as is the case in much of the world.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

36. Thank you for your attempts on candy-coating

a turd. So why are The Palestinians herded into 18% of the West Bank?

[oberliner]

37. And Israelis are herderd into Tel Aviv and Haifa

I mean why are so many of them crowded into a few cities? There is the whole southern part of the country that is quite sparsely populated.

[azurnoir]

7. examples

Israeli children cannot be jailed under the age of 14, while Palestinian children as young as 12 have been held by Israel. Israeli children must be given access to a lawyer within 48 hours, whereas Palestinians can be held for three months without legal aid.

http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=534074


The Israel Defense Forces consider it a crime punishable by imprisonment for a Palestinian to possess used IDF weapons, according to an indictment filed by the military prosecutor against Abdullah Abu Rahma of the West Bank town of Bil'in.

http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/for-palestinians-possession-of-used-idf-arms-is-now-a-crime-1.1517

yet the Israel settlers are allowed to carry M-16's in the same areas

I will be very glad to provide examples if you wish to deny this is true

[oberliner]

9. Israeli settlers carrying M-16's is insane

However, the vast majority of the Palestinian population of the West Bank is subject to Palestinian laws.

[azurnoir]

10. are you denying that the settlers carry M-16's?

and if the majority of Palestinians that would somewhere in the neighborhood of at minimum 1.5 million are crowded into a mere 18% of the West Bank there are other questions to asked and pperhaps points to Israel's succuss in herding Palestinians out of Area C or 60% of the West bank

[oberliner]

13. Uh, no?

Where do you get this from?

[azurnoir]

15. just making sure you are usually quite careful in comments :)

[Purveyor]

26. Sticking to the 'script' is indeed important... eom

[Jefferson23]

6. Security, security, deterence...take your pick. It's not their land, blah blah..who cares

about international law and fuck the UN.

Just another day in the land of the happily occupied.

The very good, Dugard:

RT: As a South African, who campaigned against Apartheid in your country, you’ve spoken about a certain type of Apartheid existing within Israel. Could you elaborate on that a little?

JD: Increasingly, Israel’s policies in the occupied Palestinian territory are described as a form of Apartheid. And, like most South Africans, who have visited the occupied Palestinian territory, I do believe that there are great similarities between Apartheid as practiced in South Africa and the policies perused in the occupied Palestinian territory.

First of all, there’s discrimination. There are two groups: there are Jews – settlers – and the Palestinians. There are two separate legal systems for the settlers and for the Palestinians. Secondly, there’s clear repression. There’s torture applied in respect of Palestinian militants, checkpoints, restricted freedom of movement on every level. There’s detention without trial. There are the same forms of political repression that we experienced in Apartheid South Africa.


K&R

[oberliner]

14. With Dugard as your expert, you should be good to go

Couldn't ask for a better choice to back up your POV.

[Jefferson23]

16. Yep and then there's you..and trusting the IDF, the Israeli government is just peachy.

Poor you.

[oberliner]

23. I don't agree

Statements from the IDF and the Israeli government are a mixed bag.

[Jefferson23]

24. Uh huh, good to know, oberliner. n/t

[Scootaloo]

29. Well, if he's anything like some of his fellows...

He only trusts Israel's government up until it diverges from the flashcard talking points. Then it goes in the bin with hte other "antisemitic" organizations.

[oberliner]

30. Huh?

Not a clue what you might even possibly be trying to communicate.

[Scootaloo]

32. Oh, just poking at some other Team israel posters here

Had a laugh when one of 'em denounced the IDF as being "antisemitic" when they confirmed some instances in the Goldstone report. More recently had it strongly implied that Shin Bet is out to "get the Jews" too 'cause their intelligence analysis didn't mesh with hte propaganda points.

It's a little surreal, to be honest. i was just making mention that if you follow suit, that's what Jefferson could expect

[oberliner]

34. OK

I certainly don't agree with any of those sentiments.

[King_David]

35. Sounds interesting

And beyond belief,

Link it up please.

[shira]

17. Dugard's a racist, thinking Palestinians are subhuman retards...

...who cannot be expected to act any other way than to just blow other people up.

Here's Dugard describing terror attacks vs. the Joooz..

"they must be understood as being a painful but inevitable consequence of colonialism, apartheid or occupation,"

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3511695,00.html

[Jefferson23]

18. Have you completely lost your mind?

Absolutely!

[shira]

19. You shouldn't defend Dugard's racism. n/t

[Jefferson23]

20. I wouldn't do that, if he were a racist. He is no such thing. n/t

[shira]

21. Now you're just denying he's a racist...

His statement goes to show that he doesn't think Palestinians are smart enough to tell right from wrong. They can't think for themselves and, like animals, they have this irresistible instinctual urge to blow innocents up.

Just as racist is his view of terror vs. Jews. Dugards sees that as understandable. Terror against everyone else - mindless.

He's a disgraceful POS, typical of anti-Israel bigots.

Don't pretend otherwise. You're not fooling anyone but yourself.

[Jefferson23]

22. No one but a complete fool would believe anything you have posted here. n/t

[Violet_Crumble]

25. Yr not fooling anyone but yrself, Shira. Yr now attacking someone for doing exactly what you do?

The thread I just came from where you claimed Palestinian parents encourage their children to go out and throw stones and called it sick child abuse and child sacrifice is a great display of someone not thinking Palestinians are smart enough to make their own decisions or tell right from wrong etc.

Yet now yr in this thread saying that doing that makes someone a racist? But it doesn't make you a racist. Hmmm, how does that work, I wonder?

Answer: He's a supporter of the Palestinian cause. Yr anti-Palestinian. It's a fact that someone who's pro-Israel* is incapable of being a racist and there's some other noble explanation, like Israel needs to protect itself and stuff.


* For the purposes of this exercise, the definition of 'pro-Israel' is someone who supports the settlements, the occupation, and who hates the Palestinians and compares them to Nazis at least once every two months.

[shira]

33. Just being consistent. The Palestinians responsible for their actions....

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...should be held accountable for them. Not only those who encourage child-sacrifice, but also those who encourage, help others, or participate in terror activity like your favorite ISM buddies. All are grown-ups who should be held responsible. That's what I believe. It appears both you and Jefferson disagree. All that should be ignored & whatever Israel does in response is EVIL, EVIL, EVIL!



Nothing difficult about it, but spin it any way you wish.

Do your worst, Dr. Schlotkin....

[aquart]

28. Looks like endless prurience to me.

How do the Saudis handle stuff like this?

How about Jordan, a state carved out of the Palestine Mandate which will not allow Palestinians BORN IN JORDAN to be citizens of Jordan?

Yeah, only the Jews. Keep your eyes on them Jews.

[Scootaloo]

31. Cool story, bro

Other people doing bad stuff excuses you when you do bad stuff.

Good ol' ethical liberal Zionism, I guess.