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According to The Tab, a Boston-area newspaper, Newton resident Tony Pagliuso was shocked when he examined a reading selection on the treatment of women in the Middle East his daughter brought home from her history class at Newton South High School. The article, from a controversial textbook called The Arab World Studies Notebook, falsely accused Israeli soldiers of murdering Arab women. Pagliuso was incensed to discover such defamatory material disseminated in his daugher's school and raised the issue with school officials.
The incident prompts two critical questions that school systems need to address as they introduce the study of the modern Middle East to students: How do they identify reputable sources on such a contentious topic and what procedures do school systems need to put in place to evaluate curricular material supplied to them. Regrettably, some of the most prominent academic institutions educators turn to for training and curricula offer dubious scholarship tainted by partisan ideological agendas.
The Center pushed the controversial text book, The Arab World Studies Notebook, which state officials described as "propaganda" and "practically proselytizing." The Notebook included such bizarre assertions as the claim Muslims discovered America before Columbus and Iroquois Indian chiefs had Muslim names. Later editions of The Notebook removed some of the absurd claims, but its fundamental flaws remain.
For instance, Director Beran promotes the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) campaign against Israel. At a Teach-In and Organizing Conference on Dec. 11, 2005 at Harvard, Beran discussed the success of BDS within the Presbyterian Church - PC (USA) - and offered his vision of the BDS movement. Beran advocated "constructing long-term networks of broad based support for action." He boasted of successfully forming a coalition with the radical anti-Israel group, Jewish Voice for Peace. In this way, Beran stated, "it helped the PC (USA) to deal more forcefully with the criticism it has and continues to receive from Zionist groups and their ilk."
http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=2&x_outlet=118&x_article=2161
Great, a Boycott Derangement Syndrome (BDS) sufferer who rewrites history and engages in unscholarly activity is in charge?
This does not bode well for both Harvard, and the school-age victims of this educational malfeasance.
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Little Tich
(6,171 posts)Actually, I believe it's a smear article written in response to an article in the New York Times about sixth-graders being given anti-arab teaching material. Link: ( http://www.nytimes.com/schoolbook/2011/11/21/parent-complains-of-bias-in-sixth-grade-lesson/ ) The article from camera.org has a headline about BDS, but it contains a lot of other things too, among them the uproar aboout teaching materials.
This mirroring of news is common in the sphere of hasbara. When something perceived as being anti-Israel comes up, a strikingly similar article appears not soon after, but this time the roles are reversed. It's as if they think that they can neutralize articles by mirroring them. It's a very bad practice, which takes away some of the integrity of the authors.
The article from New York Times was actually an OP in this forum, although DU2. It didn't go very far, because it couldn't be verified. Compare for your self. Link: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=124x373313
I actually read the piece from camera.org, and I didn't like it one bit. It was very long, and had little to do with the actual teaching materials, maybe because they don't exist. All the substance comes from allegations by one parent in Boston about the teaching materials, a reporter from SBS News citing “several studies”, and unnamed state officials giving vague statements. As for the alleged anti-Israeli activities of Paul Beran and others in the article, it's a matter of opinion as of what constitutes anti-Israeli activities.
Camera.org is not, and will never be a good source for a meaningful discussion, it's so fundamentally flawed that it's impossible.
I haven't had my lunch yet, so maybe I'm a little too harsh on the article. But my low opinion on camera.org in general stands.
vminfla
(1,367 posts)Can you cite something about the message itself? Please use fewer words than you used in your logical fallacy. I simply do not have the time to read something so wordy that bears so little content.
bemildred
(90,061 posts)It states:
I actually read the piece from camera.org, and I didn't like it one bit. It was very long, and had little to do with the actual teaching materials, maybe because they don't exist. All the substance comes from allegations by one parent in Boston about the teaching materials, a reporter from SBS News citing “several studies”, and unnamed state officials giving vague statements. As for the alleged anti-Israeli activities of Paul Beran and others in the article, it's a matter of opinion as of what constitutes anti-Israeli activities. ,
and that is a direct response to and criticism of the OP. You do not have to agree, but you will improve the credibility of your criticism of it if you stop calling things logical errors when there is nothing of logic in them. The post expresses various opinions about various things, including the OP, and supports those opinions with various examples and references, which one can easily pursue and evauate for oneself if so inclined.
You can argue that the criticism of CAMERA is an attack on the source, which would be an ad hominem fallacy if some logical conclusions were to be drawn from it, but the criticism of CAMERA is aimed at the "facts" in the OP which is a quite legitimate way to go, and the proper response to it is to better support the accuracy of those "facts" with further evidence, i.e. the literature in question, testimony other people involved, etc. which would address the criticism in a direct way.
It deserves notice that exclusion of certain sources has been a fundamental rule in this forum for a long time now, and hence discussion of the appropriateness and or credibiliity of a source is quite appropriate to our business here, however much it may not be appropriate in evaluating the argument the source presents, if it happens to present one.
In fairness, it also deserves notice that CAMERA has been being posted here often for a long time now, and I would oppose any attempt to stop that, but one ought not pretend it is some sort of news organization, it's an issue advocacy group, with its own agenda to push.
vminfla
(1,367 posts)Although Camera is a watchdog group, criticizing them for being vigilant in their watchdog status is a logical fallacy. The Arab workbook is, in fact, egregiously erroneous. Anyone with school age children should be alarmed that such information is taught. This is no different than teaching creationism alongside evolution. One is opinion, the other scientific knowledge.
bemildred
(90,061 posts)Perhaps you were attempting sarcasm.
I do think that anyone who is in a watchdog status should definitely be vigilant about it; but fortunately my children are all grown, so I am free to keep all my senses about me regardless of what sort of information is being taught.
Little Tich
(6,171 posts)I couldn't find the textbook online, so it's all unfounded allegations for me. Please provide link.
vminfla
(1,367 posts)Little Tich
(6,171 posts)How will "image not provided" help me?
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Read it for yourself - see if anything like that is in there.
Be great if you did so and shared your findings!
Little Tich
(6,171 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)There are a bunch of sources that make this claim about that book.
If you are truly curious and/or want to show that they are full of it, then you could read the book yourself and see if there is anything like that in there.
If there isn't, then you can spread the word that these sources are lying about the book.
Little Tich
(6,171 posts)Right now, these claims about the book having inappropriate content are unsubstantiated.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Presumably, the people who are making these claims actually read the book.
I am not sure that they can legally do more than summarize what they believe to be their conclusions about what the book is saying. There is no online edition or anything of that sort to link to.
If you care enough then get the book and see if it's in there or not - or if they are distorting what is written in some way.
vminfla
(1,367 posts)I do not care if there are thousands and thousands of studies documenting global warming, I am not going to read them. Therefore, there is no global warming.
Little Tich
(6,171 posts)For those who don't know, CAMERA (Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America) is a blatantly pro-Israel rightwing organisation, and it uses all means possible to promote its views. This is the organisation that are teaching the active use of hasbara on the internet. It is responsible for obfuscating wikipedia entries about Israel, and has a system for alerting supporters to journalists and sites which contain offensive materials, so they can be swamped by hatemails. I consider it the unofficial HQ of the Hasbara Brigade, if such a thing exists.
It's most accessible feature is the articles trying to correct what is perceived as anti-Israel bias. However, all of these articles are lies. They have no meaningful content, and are mostly hateful diatribes against Palestinians, journalists, historians and left-wingers. The articles that are supposed to be corrected are only used as an excuse, and their content is ignored or misrepresented. This puts CAMERA firmly in the world of fiction, like the Da Vinci code or something.
Just for fun, I read the first ten articles on their site, and I have made short summaries of nine of them below. I found almost no connection to reality apart from the change of one partially false caption for a better one, and the discovery that two articles were both stealing quotes from the same source.
Pappé Asked to Respond by University of Exeter and Journal of Palestine Studies
Benny Morris, the revisionist historian challenges Ilan Pappe on the last part of the quote “The Arabs will have to go, but one needs an opportune moment for making it happen, such as a war.”, which is attributed to David Ben-Gurion, one of the founding fathers of Israel.
Harvard's Middle East Outreach Center Headed By BDS Supporter
This is the OP.
Atlantic Corrects Year in Photos Caption about 'Nakba Day' Casualties
At least 12 people died in clashes between IDF and palestinian refugees trying to enter Israel-conrolled Golan Heights from Syria, near Majdal Shams. Camera.org managed to get in a correction that mentions that only four of the dead were proven to be shot by IDF in the area where the photograph was taken. The others were shot by IDF elsewhere that day.
C-SPAN Version of Balance on Israel: Buchanan and Nader
Ralph Nader mentions that it's difficult to travel from Betlehem to Jerusalem and Hebron, because Israeli settlements are blocking it, and hotels have shut down so it's difficult to stay overnight. He also says that catholics and protestants support Israel in congress.
Camera.org refutes this by mentioning unrelated attacks by muslim palestinian arabs and by saying that the support in congress is because Israel is so democratic.
Pat Buchanan says that christians in Israel are treated better than in the rest of the Middle East. Camera.org does not refute this, but spends the rest of the article putting up unrelated quotes and assumptions of Buchanan's and Nader's hostility to Israel and jews.
CAMERA Staff Prompts Washington Post Correction on Gaza Borders
Washington Post corrects a graphic with a caption that says that Israel controls all border crossings, the waters off its coast and its airspace. The corrected caption says “Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005, but still controls the crossing between Gaza and Israel, the waters off its coast, and its airspace”.
Israeli and Palestinian Statements about the "Damn Table"
The absence of negotiations between Israel and the palestinians is all and only the palestinians' fault, which is proven by cherry picking around 20 quotes from various sources.
BDS Activist Peddles Fabrications in California Newspaper
An article in Chico News & Review is condemned for claiming that IDF killed children in the West Bank. The article is also criticised for stating that roads built by Israel in the West Bank are for jews only. Unfortunately for camera.org, the article does not claim these things at all, and it seems as if they are talking about another, fictious article.
Pride and (Anti-Israel) Prejudice in New York Times Op-Ed on Gay Rights
Camera.org defends pinkwashing by mentioning the plight of gays in other countries.
NYT and CC Coming to their Senses on Mideast Christians?
New York Times and Christian Century have articles describing the influence of the cleric Sheik Yusuf al-Qaradawi in the politics of post revolutionary Egypt. Camera.org blasts the articles for being too positive about al-Qaradawi, and makes a long and mostly incorrect list of his perceived faults. However, it's pointed out that the articles contain the same wordings, which indicate the use of a common source.
NPR Jaffa Story Alleges Israeli Plot to Eradicate Arabs
By using a complex system of fallacies, camera.org manages to conclude that two NPR journalists are saying that Israel is trying to make the non-jews leave the country as well as erasing the Palestinian identity of the arab citizens. This is totally incorrect, NPR is reporting on the increasing racist motivated attacks by Israeli nationalists on Israeli Arabs.
If camera.org is normal fare on DU, so be it. I consider it useless as a source, and easy (if time consuming) to refute on grounds of factuality alone.
bemildred
(90,061 posts)But I am not into prohibiting sites and censoring opinions, as long as they manage to say something coherent. That is at odds with the way they do things here, but I'm OK with that, since I was here before they had rules.
Little Tich
(6,171 posts)The articles from their site are easily refuted by comparing them to more reputable sources. However, they are a very bad brand of Zionists, and I don't want them to be the standard of what is considered pro-Israel. They are on the margin of what is tolerable, and regularly posting and defending articles from their site doesn't look good.
However, censorship is wrong, and I don't think camera.org should be banned. If people are aware that camera.org is not reliable, and they know what they are posting, I can't justify prohibiting its use as a source.
Violet_Crumble
(36,002 posts)'I simply do not have the time to read something so wordy that bears so little content.'
And if something's wordy, it clearly has a lot of content. If something's dumbed down to a sentence, then there's still content, but far less of it...
vminfla
(1,367 posts)The gist of his original post was "I do not like Camera, I do not believe them". He simply used a lot of words to accomplish that. I tried to find a single relevant argument for his post, yet the entire content was a condemnation of the messenger (Attacking the messenger logical fallacy).
Violet_Crumble
(36,002 posts)If you find the time to read it, you'll find that they put up an argument and provided points to support their argument. I agree with what bemildred's already said to you about the post not being either a case of 'attack the messenger' or a logical fallacy, and rather than repeat what he's already said, I'll just point you to his post
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=480
It'd probably also help any argument you try to make if you don't start off by saying you haven't got time to read the post you then go on to call a logical fallacy 
vminfla
(1,367 posts)Not that I did not read the work.
Violet_Crumble
(36,002 posts)And the post would be 'low quality' because you claimed it was a logical fallacy? The thing is that it wasn't. I'd suggest trying to explain what was 'low quality' about the post you were replying to by addressing the points that were made and attempting to rebut them...
vminfla
(1,367 posts)Just like anti global warming folks, no amount of evidence will suffice.
Violet_Crumble
(36,002 posts)vminfla
(1,367 posts)keep on trying
bemildred
(90,061 posts)As in not comprehending stuff when you don't want to.
vminfla
(1,367 posts)A twelfth-grade Saudi textbook titled Studies from the Muslim World includes a chapter on Palestine and the Palestinian cause, which deals extensively with the Jews. The chapter presents the conflict over Palestine as a religious struggle between the Jews and the Muslims that goes back to the era of the Prophet Muhammad. It states that there is no hope of ever making peace with the Jews because they do not believe in peace, but only strive to spread corruption and instability throughout the world, for they are liars, connivers and cheats by nature. It also stresses that these negative traits of the Jews are described in the Koran, and quotes verses to prove this. Finally, the chapter states that the only way to liberate Palestine is through jihad.
Page 91 reads: "Whoever studies the nature of the conflict between the Muslims and the Jews understands an important fact, [namely that] this is a religious conflict, not a dispute about politics or nationality, or a conflict between races or tribes, or a fight over land or country, as some describe it. This is a deeply rooted enmity, a conflict between truth and falsehood, between monotheism and polytheism, between heresy and faith. The enmity between us and the Jews will not cease under any circumstances until one of two things [happens]: either they join our religion and become Muslims, or we abandon our religion, God forbid. [Allah], may He be exalted, said [in the Koran]: 'They [the Jews] will not cease fighting with you until they turn you back from your religion, if they can' [Koran 2:217]; 'And the Jews will not be pleased with you, nor the Christians, until you follow their religion' [Koran 2:120].
"They are jealous of the fact that the Seal of the Prophets [i.e., Muhammad] came from among the Arabs and not from among the Children of Israel, and [because] they know well that our master, Muhammad, Allah's prayer be upon him, was the Prophet of Allah... [As it says in the Koran:] 'Those whom We have given the Book recognize him as they recognize their sons, and a party of them most surely conceal the truth while they know (it)' [Koran 2:146]. Once we realize the essence of this conflict, and that this enmity cannot cease, we understand how much those who say the conflict can be settled are misleading [us].
"Our conflict with the Jews clearly began following the hijra of our master, Muhammad, Allah's prayer be upon him, to Medina. It was then that the plots and schemes against the first Muslims began. [These Muslims waged] prolonged jihad against [the Jews], who were expelled from Medina in stages. The Banu Qaynuqa' [tribe] was the first to be expelled, following the incident of the Muslim woman.[1] Afterward, the members of the Banu Al-Nadir tribe were expelled, having tried to assassinate the Prophet, Allah's prayer be upon him, and then, the Banu Qurayza [tribe], who breached their covenant with the Muslims and joined the camps [of Muhammad's Meccan enemies] in the Battle of the Trench [in 627 CE]."
Read more at http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/5896.htm
Sadly, the preaching of hate to children is all too common. Here is another well-known example of indoctrination from the Saudis.
Little Tich
(6,171 posts)source: Wikipedia
(edit for clarity)
The Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI) is a Middle Eastern not for profit press monitoring organization with headquarters located in Washington, DC. MEMRI was co-founded in 1998 by Yigal Carmon, a former colonel in the Israeli military intelligence and Meyrav Wurmser, an Israeli-born, American political scientist. MEMRI claims its goal is to bridge the language gap between the Middle East and the West. It publishes and distributes free English language translations of material published in Hebrew, Arabic, Persian, Urdu, Pashto, Turkish, Chinese, Dari and Polish, publishes analyses and reports on its website and offers specialized content for a fee.
MEMRI is one of several organizations that monitor and translate Arab news media. While the organization's translations are regularly quoted by major international newspapers, its work has generated strong criticism. Critics have accused MEMRI of often producing inaccurate translations with undue emphasis and selectivity and disseminating the most extreme views from Arabic and Persian media while ignoring moderate views that are often found in the same media outlets.
Read more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_East_Media_Research_Institute
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I'm not prepared to take anything from MEMRI at face value, they are an organization that is trying to make muslims look bad. The wikipedia article states that its board of directors and advisors include luminaries like Ehud Barak, Norman Podhoretz, Elie Wiesel, John Bolton, Nathan Sharansky, Elliott Abrams, Paul Bremer, Steve Emerson, Edgar Bronfman, Mort Zuckerman, Gen. Michael V. Hayden, Jeffrey Kaufman, Oliver "Buck" Revell, and Robert Reilly. These names alone should alert people that something strange is going on.
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There is a real problem with some Saudi textbooks promoting hatred, that is true and MEMRI is not needed to prove it. Here is a wikipedia article on that subject:
Saudi Arabian textbook controversy
source: wikipedia
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The Saudi Arabian textbook controversy refers to criticism of the content of school textbooks in Saudi Arabia since the September 11 attacks. The United States demanded that Saudi textbooks be reviewed and revised to remove material perceived as spreading intolerance and hatred.
After the bombing of the Twin Towers in New York, the American government called on Saudi Arabia to reform its educational curriculum by eliminating educational material that demonizes Christians and Jews and promotes holy war against "unbelievers."
Senior Saudi officials assured the United States that the reform was completed, but a new report by the human-rights group Freedom House suggested otherwise. Saudi officials have tried to convince Washington that the educational curriculum has been reformed. On a speaking tour of American cities, the Saudi ambassador to the United States, Prince Turki bin Faisal, told audiences that the Kingdom has eliminated what might be perceived as intolerance from its old textbooks.
In November 2010, the BBC's investigative program Panorama reported that Saudi national textbooks advocating anti-Semitism and violence against homosexuals were still in use in weekend religious programs in the United Kingdom.
Read more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_Arabian_textbook_controversy
vminfla
(1,367 posts)Although some people may not appreciate the work of watchdog groups such as Camera and Memri, very few offer a valid argument. Most attack the messenger, but never the message.
What I find odd is that you confirm Memris findings via other sources, some may actually even be secondary to Memri.
Dismissing Memri out of hand, however is not a valid, cogent argument. Unlike, say Electronic Intifadah, none of the Memri staff have been linked to terrorist organizations or indicted.
Little Tich
(6,171 posts)shira
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....and tend to do sloppy research.
Agreed?
If so, how does CAMERA fit that description? Further, what sources you believe are reliable on I/P?
Little Tich
(6,171 posts)one that's independently verified by other sources that can prove their claims in various ways, and are not previously proven to be unreliable. I use Wikipedia a lot, I find it reliable now that their infestation of hasbara trolls is under control. In general, it's my final arbiter on most issues. Here is what Wikipedia has to say about sources:
(Btw, I won't speak more of CAMERA, I think my opinion is pretty clear on that issue.)
Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources
Wikipedia articles should be based on reliable, published sources, making sure that all majority and significant minority views that have appeared in those sources are covered (see Wikipedia:Neutral point of view). The word "source" as used on Wikipedia has three related meanings: the piece of work itself (the article, book), the creator of the work (the writer, journalist), and the publisher of the work (for example The New York Times, Cambridge University Press, etc.). All three can affect reliability. Reliable sources may be published materials with a reliable publication process, authors who are regarded as authoritative in relation to the subject, or both.
The reliability of a source depends on context. Each source must be carefully weighed to judge whether it is reliable for the statement being made and is the best such source for that context. In general, the more people engaged in checking facts, analyzing legal issues, and scrutinizing the writing, the more reliable the publication. Sources should directly support the information as it is presented in an article, and should be appropriate to the claims made. If a topic has no reliable sources, Wikipedia should not have an article on it.
This guideline discusses the reliability of various types of sources. The policy on sourcing is Wikipedia:Verifiability, which requires inline citations for any material challenged or likely to be challenged, and for all quotations. The policy is strictly applied to all material in the mainspace—articles, lists, and sections of articles—without exception, and in particular to biographies of living persons, which states:
Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced—whether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionable—should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion.
In the event of a contradiction between this page and our policies regarding sourcing and attribution, the policy takes priority and editors should seek to resolve the discrepancy. Other policies relevant to sourcing are Wikipedia:No original research and Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons. For questions about the reliability of particular sources, see Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard.
Read more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Identifying_reliable_sources
vminfla
(1,367 posts)Some evil conspiracy about Hasbara infiltrating wikipedia? Seriously? I don't even know what the Hasbara are? Isn't that the company that makes Transformer toys?
bemildred
(90,061 posts)Israel Citizens Information Council
Thank you for your interest in the Israel Citizens’ Information Council (ICIC), an Israeli-based grassroots initiative. The purpose of the ICIC is to assist efforts to explain Israeli life from the vantage point of the average Israeli citizen. Towards that end, the ICIC enlists Israelis from all walks of life to participate in its various projects.
Our activities include the following:
* Training speakers and organizing speaking engagements and media appearances abroad.
* Hosting visiting groups from abroad.
* Providing assistance and guidance for individual and groups involved in hasbara and advocacy campaigns.
* Encouraging participation in media "watch" groups.
* Providing a resource to the foreign media outlets for Israeli grass-root opinion and experience.
* Supporting the activities of student groups advocating pro-democracy, human rights and anti-terror messages.
* Forming liaisons with individuals, communities and public officials overseas through e-mail and personal contact.
* Providing information and "alerts" to support the above activities through our website, www.hasbara.com. The ICIC engages in these activities through liaison with communities outside of Israel. Our goal is to provide diversity to official Israeli government positions by using citizens from all walks of life and political persuasions. Our "citizen diplomacy" allows the presentation of mainstream Israeli thinking as represented by the grass roots. ICIC speakers are academicians, professionals and community activists who can provide communities with an authentic voice reflecting the mainstream in Israeli opinion.
One of our major activities is the production of special Powerpoint presentations which we post on our website. These presentations review specific aspects and issues related to Israel and the Middle East. To access these presentations, click here or on the Presentations button on the banner on top of any page.
From time-to-time, we send out material and alerts regarding our activities. If you wish to be added to our mailing list to receive our alerts, please click here to sign up.
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Lot's more out there, Google is your friend.
vminfla
(1,367 posts)Reading some of the comments about Hasbara, one would think that they are what the Iluminati fear.
bemildred
(90,061 posts)vminfla
(1,367 posts)A new book by an Israeli watchdog group catalogs dozens of examples of messages broadcast by the Palestinian Authority for its domestic audience that would seem at odds with the pursuit of peace and a two-state solution.
Instead, the authors say, their findings show a pattern of non-recognition of Israel’s right to exist, demonization of Israel and promotion of violence.
Of course, this is nothing new. For years, many Israeli and Palestinian analysts have said that what Palestinian leaders tell their own people in their own language — as opposed to English-language statements tailored to opinion in the rest of the world — is the truest reflection of their actual beliefs. This has had the effect of further entrenching the sides to the conflict and undermining confidence that it can ever be resolved.
“There is no doubt in my mind that in the mainstream of the Palestinian national movement, Israel is not considered legitimate,” said Shlomo Avineri, an Israeli professor of political science at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, reflecting a widespread sense of disillusionment. “This is the inner truth of the Palestinians,” he said. “They really mean it. It is not what they say on CNN, but it is what they teach their children.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/20/world/middleeast/palestinian-messages-dont-match-israeli-group-says.html
More of the same pattern: The arab world rejects Israel's rights to exist and their school books teach the next generation to hate the Jews well into the future.