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geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
Tue Dec 24, 2013, 02:26 PM Dec 2013

Netanyahu may condition advancing peace talks on Pollard release

The Channel 2 report, which the Prime Minister’s Office would neither confirm nor deny, suggested two possible alternatives for when Netanyahu could insist on Pollard’s release when US Secretary of State John Kerry announces his framework for concluding an agreement between Israel and the PA as early as next month, or when Israel releases the final round of 26 Palestinian terrorists in April.

The cabinet’s approval of the release of the 104 terrorists was conditioned on there being another vote on whether to accept Palestinian requests to include six Arab Israeli citizens in the final round of prisoner releases.

Netanyahu could ask the Americans to free Pollard then, in order to justify the prisoner releases to Israelis.

Channel 10 quoted a White House official saying that Obama’s opinion against releasing Pollard immediately had not changed and that there was no connection between Pollard and revelations that the US National Security Agency (NSA) had spied on Israeli leaders.



http://www.jpost.com/Diplomacy-and-Politics/Report-Netanyahu-will-ask-Obama-to-free-Pollard-as-condition-in-peace-talks-335920

At the same time, Bibi is puffing outrage over the fact that the US dared to spy on Israel, while getting John Kerry to give Israel everything it wanted in his 'security proposal.'
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Netanyahu may condition advancing peace talks on Pollard release (Original Post) geek tragedy Dec 2013 OP
condition any further military aid on advancing peace talks... mike_c Dec 2013 #1
That's the rational policy. geek tragedy Dec 2013 #2
No argument there. Smartest thing I have heard today on the whole mess. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2013 #5
2 can play. Make it conditional on Israel finishing agreement implementation on point Dec 2013 #3
What a laughable asshole, Fibi Netanyahu is. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2013 #4
About three quarters of the U.S. aid to Israel is spent in the United States oberliner Dec 2013 #6
most of it for military hardware and other tools of oppression, I suspect.... mike_c Dec 2013 #7
Yes indeed oberliner Dec 2013 #9
And more military hardware that Israel needs to stay afloat. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2013 #11
Why does Israel need military hardware to stay afloat? oberliner Dec 2013 #12
Sure they would, ober. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2013 #13
Lots of folks want more money even though they don't need it oberliner Dec 2013 #14
"Lots of folks want more money even though they don't need it" R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2013 #15
Let's try some logic here, Oberliner. Scootaloo Dec 2013 #16
Thanks. Strange how the proponents of the apartheid state R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2013 #10
Quelle surprise azurnoir Dec 2013 #8
Yes, and what else will be applied as another bullshit condition? Jefferson23 Dec 2013 #17
All shit must be thrown against the wall to see if it sticks. bemildred Dec 2013 #18

mike_c

(36,281 posts)
1. condition any further military aid on advancing peace talks...
Tue Dec 24, 2013, 02:28 PM
Dec 2013

...and shutting down the settlements. End of problem.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
2. That's the rational policy.
Tue Dec 24, 2013, 02:30 PM
Dec 2013

What US policy actually is: okay, we'll let you annex the West Bank without saying you're annexing it, but we'll have to get back to you on starting a disastrous war with Iran.

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
4. What a laughable asshole, Fibi Netanyahu is.
Tue Dec 24, 2013, 05:46 PM
Dec 2013

Now he is trying to put preconditions on the ones that keep his country afloat?

Shut off the money spigot for a while until he comes around.

Oh, and fuck him too.

mike_c

(36,281 posts)
7. most of it for military hardware and other tools of oppression, I suspect....
Tue Dec 24, 2013, 06:22 PM
Dec 2013

That's the way most "foreign aid" works, i.e. we'll give the MIC $X billion in preferred contracts that you can use to buy their products, and call it $X billion in "foreign aid." In fact, it's more often than not a direct tax payer subsidy of both foreign governments AND U.S. corporations.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
12. Why does Israel need military hardware to stay afloat?
Tue Dec 24, 2013, 06:56 PM
Dec 2013

I think Israel's economy would be able to stay afloat without the aid.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
14. Lots of folks want more money even though they don't need it
Tue Dec 24, 2013, 09:23 PM
Dec 2013

If you really think Israel needs that aid in order to "stay afloat" then I think you do not have a solid understanding of their economy.

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
15. "Lots of folks want more money even though they don't need it"
Wed Dec 25, 2013, 12:47 AM
Dec 2013

Folks? Folks?

Keep on phoning it in in the new year Ober. This place wouldn't be the same without you!

Merry Happy!
 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
16. Let's try some logic here, Oberliner.
Wed Dec 25, 2013, 03:39 AM
Dec 2013

Let's say you're a spoiled adult child. You have a job, but your parents pay your rent and utilities. You blast your paychecks on parties, booze, and chrome rims. One day your parents get fed up and cut you off. Uh oh, now you have to pay your rent and utilities out of those paychecks! You're going to have to cut something back, aren't you?

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
10. Thanks. Strange how the proponents of the apartheid state
Tue Dec 24, 2013, 06:43 PM
Dec 2013

Always leave that part out.

My original point stands.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
8. Quelle surprise
Tue Dec 24, 2013, 06:26 PM
Dec 2013

when I first read the headline about the US spying on Israel-I thought this will be applied to Pollard's situation, and here we are

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
17. Yes, and what else will be applied as another bullshit condition?
Wed Dec 25, 2013, 09:00 AM
Dec 2013

Perhaps the list Bibi constructs will include that he be recognized as a man of peace, a man
of principle...lol.

The man has no shame, none.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
18. All shit must be thrown against the wall to see if it sticks.
Wed Dec 25, 2013, 10:40 AM
Dec 2013

Bibi is grabbing at straws and trying to stir up a duststorm so nobody can see how naked he is now. And the folly of getting involved in US political disputes apparently has never occurred to him, since he has made a habit of it.

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