Crime pays - for Palestinian terrorists

[Fozzledick]

When a Palestinian murders an Israeli or an American in Israel, they can wind up receiving a salary in excess of $40,000 a year, for their crime.

When a Palestinian Arab terrorist murders an Israeli or an American in Israel, they can wind up receiving a generous salary, in excess of $40,000 a year, for their crime. And if you are a US taxpayer, you are footing part of the tab.

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The United States gives to the Palestinian Authority (PA ) hundreds of millions of US dollars each year, as do other donor countries. The PA then spends this money. One of the PA ’s top budget priorities is to pay the salaries of Palestinian terrorists who have been convicted of murdering, or attempting to murder, Israelis – with higher salaries doled out on a sliding scale.

The more ghastly the atrocity and the higher the prison sentence, the greater the PA salary.

The moment a Palestinian is convicted of an act of terror – “violent resistance” is the Palestinians’ preferred propaganda term – against Israel, whether against a soldier or civilian, that convicted terrorist is automatically entered into the PA ’s public payroll to receive a generous monthly salary (to be paid from the date of his or her arrest, not conviction). Salaries range from around $400 a month to up to $3,400 a month – up to 10 times the average pay earned by many working Palestinians, according to Black.

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These payments amount to almost $10 million a month in some years and constitute around six percent of the PA ’s annual budget, according to the PA ’s own Finance Ministry. According to Palestinian Media Watch, an Israeli-based NGO, the PA paid $100m. to terrorists in 2013

http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-Ed-Contributors/Crime-pays-for-Palestinian-terrorists-345779

[COLGATE4]

1. Charming. Your tax dollars at work. nt

[azurnoir]

2. I'm sure Republican Congressman Ted Poe TX who wrote this piece appreciates you promoting his work

and opinion here on Democratic Underground especially in a year where he's running for re-election

Here's more from Congressman Poe (just to get a feel for the guy, sorry it's very Teatime)

[Fozzledick]

3. Yeah, don't ya just hate it when a Texas teabagger makes more sense than you do?

He may be bullshit on domestic politics, but at least he's against funding terrorists.

[azurnoir]

4. so you support this person I take it? n/t

[Fozzledick]

5. No I support telling the truth, whatever the source.

I can't help but notice that you haven't disputed anything in the article or expressed any opposition to the funding of terrorists. So you're cool with that I take it?

[azurnoir]

7. I consider the source I believe this is every bit as factual as the video about Obama is

not to mention this a is recycled shocker-it gets belched up when needed

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=124x359158

http://www.democraticunderground.com/113431424

[azurnoir]

8. if you do not support him why are you promoting his viewpoint here? n/t

[shira]

14. This forum ain't about discussing reality, Fozz. n/t

[King_David]

15. I don't support this dude at all

But willing to bet he would get bipartisan support for this .

And at least it's not extreme right wing David Duke like crap that's published in Maan.

[Jefferson23]

6. The OP below does not state, same author, Poe..as having conclusive evidence. His source of truth

is Itamar Marcus..that guy gets around.

Note, his operative words are could

100 million to "terrorists"...hmm.

snip* A subcommittee of the House Foreign Affairs Committee is exploring the issue of Palestinian Authority government salaries going to convicted terrorists, a program that may be utilizing annual U.S. foreign aid granted to the Palestinians.

Rep. Ted Poe (R-Texas) who chairs the House Foreign Affairs Subcommittee on Terrorism, Nonproliferation and Trade expressed concern at a hearing on Wednesday that U.S. taxpayer money could be landing in the pockets of convicted Palestinian terrorists.

“The United States gave $440 million in fiscal year 2013 to the Palestinian Authority,” Poe said. “We all know that money is fungible. The more money we give to help them with these ‘job programs,’ the more money the Palestinian Authority has to pay terrorists.”

“U.S. taxpayer money should not be paying and rewarding Palestinian terrorists who are doing harm and killing Israelis and Americans,” Poe said.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/03/06/congress-trying-to-prevent-u-s-tax-money-from-funding-palestinian-terrorist-salaries/

[azurnoir]

11. It seems Republicans and/or their Israeli supporter are being used more and more here

just an observation, that said the Republicans have been looking for a way to undermine Obama's move for peace (along with everything else he does) and financially breaking the PA would be one method of doing just that

[Jefferson23]

16. Exactly. Regarding Iran as well....my hope is Obama will stand strong against them on that

front. With the Kerry Plan, Israel was presented with just about everything they could hope for
and still do not agree...indicates they prefer occupation, continually. It is the Palestinians who
have no fair representation. There is a long toxic dysfunctional relationship via US and Israel and
they ( Israel) are not accustom to the pressure that Kerry has utilized, thus far.

[shira]

18. It ain't Republicans. Name one (just one) Democrat in power w/ yr views on Israel.

Try within the last 10 years.

[azurnoir]

19. exactly my views? John Kerry would be the closest

there see ya got your answer and the thread kicked too

[shira]

20. Kerry? He claims Israel is racist, apartheid, colonial? For BDS? One-state?

He supports the Flotillas from FreeGaza?

Thinks Richard Falk is straight up, no bullshit?

[azurnoir]

21. as I said Kerry would be the closest now your turn to name one

and remember Anthony Weiner is not in office anymore

still playing the accusation game I see though it says oh so much

[shira]

22. Kerry is not remotely close to your views. Who r u kidding?

Like I just told Fozzie, this forum ain't about talking reality.

[azurnoir]

23. I take it you can't okay nuff said

Itamar Marcus, Richard Landes, and now Ted Poe .......... gee are they Democrats?

[shira]

24. I'm surprised if more than 3 people outside this forum keep up with this crap....

Who has time for this?

[shira]

25. Kerry is closer to my views than yours. Hell, if Kerry speaks for both of us....

..then what the hell are we arguing here?

[azurnoir]

26. So you believe that Netanyahu's demand for rcognition as a Jewish State is wrong too?

http://www.jpost.com/Diplomacy-and-Politics/Kerry-says-Netanyahu-wrong-to-insist-Palestinians-recognize-Israel-as-Jewish-state-345341

That Israel will opening itself up to boycott should the talks fail?

http://www.timesofisrael.com/schumer-pans-kerrys-bds-warnings-to-israel/

But wait there is one that maybe you'd agree with - Chuck Schumer

During one point of his speech, Schumer turned his attention to the situation in Gaza. He told the audience that the “Palestinian people still don’t believe in the Jewish state, in a two-state solution,” and also that “they don’t believe in the Torah, in David.” He went on to say “you have to force them to say Israel is here to stay.”

New York’s senior senator explained that the current Israeli blockade of the Gaza Strip — which is causing a humanitarian crisis there — is not only justified because it keeps weapons out of the Palestinian territory, but also because it shows the Palestinians living there that “when there’s some moderation and cooperation, they can have an economic advancement.” Summing up his feelings, Schumer emphasized the need to “to strangle them economically until they see that’s not the way to go”

http://thinkprogress.org/security/2010/06/11/102026/schumer-strangle-gaza-economically/

[shira]

27. So u agree with Kerry now on 1 thing. Is that it?

Last month, he was frustrated with Palestinian refusal to recognize a Jewish state...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/10551955/John-Kerry-frustrated-by-Palestinians-refusal-to-recognise-Jewish-Israel.html

So u had zero in common with Kerry last month, right?

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Hey, for shits and giggles, why r u against recognizing a Jewish state?

[shira]

9. (Oct 2013) The Netherlands if funding (Palestinian) Terrorists

http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.telegraaf.nl%2Fbinnenland%2F22012952%2F___NL_financiert_terroristen___.html&act=url

Our country each year about 65 million to the Palestinian Authority to build Palestine. The Palestinian Authority and former Minister of Foreign Affairs Uri Rosenthal gave earlier that a portion of which goes toward terrorists. The fighters who are in an Israeli jail because they have slain or wounded, civilians or soldiers get a benefit of the Palestinian Authority and the family of a suicide bomber also get a benefit from the same big pot.

Four million

"Rosenthal said earlier that eight tons of money spent on those benefits," said Voordewind after visiting Palestine. "However, recent calculations show that it is four million of our money before."

For an immediate stop of the payments to the Palestinian Authority Voordewind not get their hands on each other in the House, he knows to his regret. "But we can reduce it to four million. In addition, we have set conditions on what can happen to us. Money This can not be. That benefit is sick enough higher as you kill more people. "Voordewind want the money rather stop in reconciliation projects between Palestinians and Israelis.

[shira]

10. American Tax Dollars Help Fund Hefty 'Salaries' for Jailed Palestinian Killers

But it is still a shock to most in Congress, who are unaware that U.S. money going to the Palestinian Authority is regularly diverted to a program that systematically rewards terrorists with generous salaries.

More than that, this money grandly incentivizes murder and terror against innocent civilians.

Here’s how the system works. When a Palestinian is convicted of an act of terror against the Israeli government or innocent civilians, such as a bombing or a murder, that convicted terrorist automatically receives a generous salary from the Palestinian Authority. The salary is specified by the Palestinian Law of the Prisoner and administered by the PA’s Ministry of Prisoner Affairs. A Palestinian watchdog group, the Prisoners Club, ensures the PA’s compliance with the law and pushes for payments as a prioritized expenditure. This means that even during frequent budget shortfalls and financial crisis, the PA pays the terrorists’ salaries first and foremost — often before other fiscal obligations.

The Law of the Prisoner narrowly delineates just who is entitled to receive an official salary. In a recent interview, Ministry of Prisoners spokesman Amr Nasser read aloud that definition: “A detainee is each and every person who is in an Occupation prison based on his or her participation in the resistance to Occupation.” This means crimes against Israel or Israelis. Nasser was careful to explain, “It does not include common-law thieves and burglars. They are not included and are not part of the mandate of the Ministry.”

Under a sliding scale, carefully articulated in the Law of the Prisoner, the more heinous the act of terrorism, the longer the prison sentence, and consequently, the higher is the salary. Detention for up to three years fetches a salary of almost $400 per month. Prisoners incarcerated between three and five years will be paid about $560 monthly — a compensation level already higher than that for many ordinary West Bank jobs. Sentences of ten to fifteen years fetch salaries of about $1,690 per month. Even greater acts of terrorism, punished with sentences between fifteen and twenty years, earn almost $2,000 per month.

These are the best salaries in the Palestinian territories. The Arabic word ratib, meaning “salary,” is the official term for this compensation. The law ensures the greatest financial reward for the most egregious acts of terrorism.

Read more: http://forward.com/articles/188030/american-tax-dollars-help-fund-hefty-salaries-for/?p=all#ixzz2wRiMrZ89

[azurnoir]

12. using the same yardstick you do we the American taxpayer are paying for Israels settlements right?

are you good with that?

[shira]

13. Sorry, not playing your "hey, look over there" whataboutery games. n/t

[azurnoir]

17. No look over there simple facts sorry they make you uncomfortable

in reality the money the PA collects in taxes or should I say Israel collects on behalf of the PA pay 'salaries' not the American or EU taxpayer- your conjecture is totally a by extension thing sort like when Teabaggers claim welfare and Snap are paying for junkies drug habits

[Mosby]

28. should Palestinian criminals recieve a PA salary as a reward for their crime?

Why can't you answer a simple question?

[azurnoir]

29. most of the money goes to their families and no I do not have a problem with that

do you believe that the wives and children of these people should be punished too?