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Israeli

(4,151 posts)
Sat Apr 12, 2014, 04:38 AM Apr 2014

In One Word: Poof!

POOR JOHN Kerry. This week he emitted a sound that was more expressive than pages of diplomatic babble.

In his testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations committee he explained how the actions of the Israeli government had torpedoed the “peace process”. They broke their obligation to release Palestinian prisoners, and at the same time announced the enlargement of more settlements in East Jerusalem. The peace efforts went “poof”.

“Poof” is the sound of air escaping a balloon. It is a good expression, because the “peace process” was from the very beginning nothing more than a balloon full of hot air. An exercise in make-believe.

JOHN KERRY cannot be blamed. He took the whole thing seriously. He is an earnest politician, who tried very very hard to make peace between Israel and Palestine. We should be grateful for his efforts.

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In One Word: Poof! (Original Post) Israeli Apr 2014 OP
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Failing at bringing peace no Turbineguy Apr 2014 #2
It was Kerry who placed prime responsibility for the alleged peace process failure on Israel, true. Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #3

Israeli

(4,151 posts)
1. excerpts :
Sat Apr 12, 2014, 04:47 AM
Apr 2014
There is no equality between occupier and occupied, oppressor and oppressed. A jailer and a prisoner cannot negotiate on equal terms. When one side has total command of the other, controls his every move, settles on his land, controls his money flow, arrests people at will, blocks his access to the UN and the International courts, equality is out of the question.

If the two sides to negotiations are so extremely unequal, the situation can only be remedied by the mediator supporting the weaker side. What is happening is the very opposite: the American support for Israel is massive and unstinting.

Throughout the “negotiations” the US did nothing to check the settlement activity that created more Israeli facts on the ground – the very ground whose future the negotiations were all about.


SEEMINGLY, THE American understanding of Israel is much better. But not really.

Average American politicians and diplomats know a lot about Jews. Many of them are Jews. Kerry himself seems to be partly Jewish. His peace team includes many Jews, even Zionists, including the actual manager of the negotiations, Martin Indyk, who worked in the past for AIPAC. His very name is Yiddish (and means a Turkey).

The assumption is that Israelis are not very different from American Jews. But that is entirely false. Israel may claim to be the “Nation-State of the Jewish People”, but that is only an instrument for exploiting the Jewish Diaspora and creating obstacles for the “peace process”. In reality there is very little similarity between Israelis and the Jewish Diaspora, not much more than between a German and a Japanese.


Martin Indyk may feel an affinity with Tzipi Livni, the daughter of an Irgun fighter (or “terrorist” in British parlance), but that is an illusion. The myths and traumas that shaped Tzipi are very different from those that shaped Martin, who was educated in Australia.

If Barack Obama and Kerry knew more, they would have realized from the beginning that the present Israeli political setup makes any Israeli evacuation of the settlements, withdrawal from the West Bank and compromise about Jerusalem quite impossible.


The American side is afraid of a general onslaught of the Zionist-evangelical-Republican-Adelson bulldozer on the Obama administration in the next elections. Already the State Department is frantically trying to retreat from the Kerry “poof”. He did not mean that only Israel is to blame, they assert, the fault lies with both sides. The jailer and the prisoner are equally to blame.

As usual, the Israeli government has many fears. It fears the outbreak of a third intifada, coupled with a world-wide campaign of de-legitimization and boycott of Israel, especially in Europe.


Turbineguy

(37,329 posts)
2. Failing at bringing peace no
Sat Apr 12, 2014, 06:22 AM
Apr 2014

longer has any stigma attached as everybody has failed before. Never the less, it should always be attempted. Those who benefit from the status quo have more power than those who are harmed by it.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
3. It was Kerry who placed prime responsibility for the alleged peace process failure on Israel, true.
Sat Apr 12, 2014, 09:26 AM
Apr 2014

This fact does not change the Kerry framework, which was a deal that favored Israel
and would leave the Palestinians without a viable state...that is no secret, imo.

Bibi, evidently, was not satisfied with the Kerry plan due to his fear of losing his coalition and
their greedy over reach...also, pushed his luck regarding Abbas', who I did not think had it in him
to push back. I was shocked by his bold move and I sincerely hope he can now negotiate
for a viable state.

Kerry was working hard to get the two sides to agree to a framework, true, but he was
not concerned nor working for a viable state for the Palestinians.

Without one, I would like to know how peace would be even remotely possible.

It is a sordid mess...disgraceful.

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