US 'surprised' Israel did not support UN vote on Ukraine's territorial integrity

[Jefferson23]

Amidst one of the deepest East-West crises since the Cold War over Russia and the Ukraine, the US expressed surprise that Israel did not support last month’s UN vote on Ukraine’s territorial integrity.

On Tuesday, NATO Secretary-General Anders Fogh Rasmussen said Russia is deeply involved in eastern Ukraine where pro-Moscow separatists have seized control of a number of government buildings.

A day earlier, in Washington, US State Department Spokesperson Jen Psaki said the US was “surprised” that Israel did not support a UN vote in March following Russia’s annexation of Crimea.

Psaki was responding to a question regarding a recent report in the Israeli media that the US was infuriated with Israel because of its lack of a position on the Russia-Ukraine crisis. She said this was not how the US would characterize its reaction to Israel on this issue.

http://www.jpost.com/International/US-surprised-Israel-did-support-UN-vote-on-Ukraines-territorial-integrity-348564

[PDJane]

1. If they did so, they would be exposing their own hypocrisy.

They cannot support the Ukraine and continue to invade and occupy Palestine.

[BillZBubb]

2. If anyone was surprised by that, they shouldn't be in charge.

Israel only does what advances their objective of annexing West Bank land.

Faulting Russia would be bad a bad precedent for their goals.

[azurnoir]

3. Surprised? really? I'm not all things considered

abstaining was the politically safe choice for Israel

[Jefferson23]

4. Support for territorial integrity..an elusive notion for some. n/t

[Jefferson23]

5. Ok, is it just me, the surprise here is the US once again, is noting their disapproval in

the press...yes?

[PDJane]

6. Yes, but that sounds a bit naive, in retrospect.

[Jefferson23]

7. Naive you mean in that the US will maintain the status quo?

If so, I am not certain about that any longer.

[Scootaloo]

8. Are our officials truly so naive? n/t

[Jefferson23]

9. I took it mean, and I may be the one being naive here, as an open dig to Israel's Netanyahu. n/t

[King_David]

10. Amazing to see the ignorance ,

There's more to play here for Israel's action affecting Jews ....

Donetsk leaflet: Jews must register or face deportation

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4510688,00.html

[Jefferson23]

11. Ukraine Is Not Ordering Its Jews to Register

Today, the Western press caught up with the Ukrainian rumor mill: apparently, the People's Republic of Donetsk had ordered all Jews over the age of 16 to pay a fee of $50 U.S. and register with the new "authorities," or face loss of citizenship or expulsion. This was laid out in officious-looking fliers pasted on the local synagogue. One local snapped a photo of the fliers and sent it to a friend in Israel, who then took it to the Israeli press and, voila, an international scandal: American Twitter is abuzz with it, Drudge is hawking it, and, today in Geneva, U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry slammed the fliers as "grotesque."

The Donetsk Jewish community dismissed this as "a provocation," which it clearly is. "It's an obvious provocation designed to get this exact response, going all the way up to Kerry," says Fyodr Lukyanov, editor of Russia in Global Affairs. "I have no doubt that there is a sizeable community of anti-Semites on both sides of the barricades, but for one of them to do something this stupid—this is done to compromise the pro-Russian groups in the east."

Why? The Russian government has been playing up the (real but small) role of fascists and neo-Nazis in the victory of the EuroMaidan in Kiev. The Ukrainian government, utterly powerless to fight off the Russians and their local stooges, have had to rely on other methods, like leaking taped phone calls of allegedly local separatists getting their commands from Moscow. This may be just another tactic to smear the so-called anti-Maidan in the east of Ukraine: you think we're fascists? Well, take a look at these guys.

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/117415/ukraine-not-ordering-its-jews-register

[King_David]

12. AntiSemitism alive and well in North America , Europe and Russia ..

Israel's reason for being...a Passover message.

[Jefferson23]

13. Your reasoning about Israel and why they did not support the US was flat out wrong. n/t

[King_David]

14. Clearly dangerous for Jews in Russia or Ukraine or anywhere

Israel needs take this all into consideration.

Nothing new here .

[Jefferson23]

16. You are talking about another issue, which at this point you should be aware of. n/t

[Scootaloo]

23. So it sides with Russia. What a Jewish paradise Moscow has made!

i hear it's excellent on gay rights, too, Dave.

[King_David]

24. Fuck Russia

Is as bad as Gaza / Palestine with their treatment of gays ... But of course that's a tangent.

I definitly do not support what Russia has done and fuck Putin ... But that has nothing to do with Israel's actions in placing the safety of Jews 1st--- that's it's number one priority being The Jewish homeland and all---nobody else will do that for us. I wish there was such a Gay entity too.

[Scootaloo]

26. Israel puts the expansion of Israel first, and doesn't worry about the safety of Jews

If Jews being safe were on Israel's list of priorities, it wouldn't perpetuate the conflict with Palestine, nor would it engage in frequent adventurism against other nations, and it wouldn't be seeking a war against Iran.

Zionism's relationship with antisemitism isn't one of opposition, but rather exploitation. Zionism embraces hatred of jews, because antisemitism is the fuel for Zionism. See your movement's wide-armed embrace of John Hagee and the Republican Party. See how the EDL is not turned away from Zionist get-togethers. Notice how whenever a bunch of skinheaded dipshits screams for Jews to get the fuck out of some country, Zionism joins the chorus, calling for Jews to leave.

[King_David]

27. Good shpiell

And you should try convince American and Golah Jews in General and orange Jews that what you just said there in that post was not antagonistic nor coming from a hateful place.i think that may prove to be an uphill insurmountable battle.

[King_David]

28. "Zionism joins the chorus, calling for Jews to leave"

If only the Jewish Nation had heeded the advice of Zionists and moved to Israel in the 1930/1940s from Europe , imagine ?

[Jefferson23]

25. He enters this thread linking the reason why Israel did not support the US on Russia annexing

Crimea. He does not explain how the letter in the story, which was not released at the time Israel
was asked to support the US...so how did Israel's government know about it before anyone else?

He also ignores this: Jewish-Ukrainian MP slams Israel’s silence on Crimea

By Raphael Ahren March 9, 2014,
http://www.timesofisrael.com/jewish-ukrainian-mp-slams-israels-silence-on-crimea/

But somehow, you're suppose to accept his time line of events.

[King_David]

15. If you think my reasoning was wrong I'm afraid you don't have a good grip on what's going on there

And what Israel's responsibilities are to Jews in Israel and in the Golah .

Just because someone supports Palestinians for whatever motive doesn't mean they understand Jewish intricacies one way or another.

This mistake is classic throughout history.

[Jefferson23]

17. You were wrong with the reason you posted as to why Israel did not support the US on Russia.

I am well aware of what is going on there, it is you who was misinformed.

[King_David]

18. Umm ok

Keep believing that .



Ha ha

Cheers !

[Jefferson23]

19. Keep spreading misinformation in your own threads.

This was the reason you gave for Israel not supporting the US and it is not true.

Star Member King_David (6,736 posts)
10. Amazing to see the ignorance ,

There's more to play here for Israel's action affecting Jews ....

Donetsk leaflet: Jews must register or face deportation

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4510688,00.html

You have issues with accuracy.

[King_David]

20. Oki doki

I can see amazingly you believe you got me.

Cheers .

[Jefferson23]

21. Not at all, you exposed yourself, all by yourself by your reactions..it's all in the thread. n/t

[King_David]

22. Yep

It is....