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R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
Mon May 19, 2014, 08:25 PM May 2014

A distorted portrait of Palestinian 'anti-Semitism'

http://972mag.com/a-distorted-portrait-of-palestinian-anti-semitism/91034/

With a discriminatory system that includes two separate legal systems, what is a Palestinian supposed to answer when he’s asked if Jews don’t care what happens to anyone but their own kind? The ADL’s world anti-Semitism survey presents a distorted view of the world.

The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) – a Jewish-American organization whose goal is to combat anti-Semitism – and in practice, to promote Israeli hasbara – published a worldwide survey on anti-Semitism last week. The survey is unprecedented in its scope (53,100 people were surveyed in 102 countries) and purports to establish a reliable database on global anti-Semitism.

In practice, the survey seeks to establish an objective “truth” according to scientific standards vis-a-vis public discourse and the educational system, for journalists, policymakers, international institutions and more. The power to determine the “truth” is political, one that invites a certain suspicion – especially when it comes from a political body affiliated with the Israeli Right.

The main finding of the report is that Palestinians in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip are the most anti-Semitic in the world. Of course, not all of them; the ADL labeled only 93 percent of the Palestinian public as anti-Semitic. What did the Palestinians do to receive such an honor?


Just remember this my fellow DUers. The apartheid picninc doesn't stop for critics. You have to be on board and be a loving member of the IDF steamroller or you are an anti-Semite through and through. Don't mind the Palestinians flattened in its wake. They just grease the treads of colonialism.
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A distorted portrait of Palestinian 'anti-Semitism' (Original Post) R. Daneel Olivaw May 2014 OP
Poignantly more... R. Daneel Olivaw May 2014 #1
That has always struck me azurnoir May 2014 #3
And the rabid extreme homophobia. ? King_David May 2014 #4
the subject was antisemitism-why the need to demonize Palestinians? azurnoir May 2014 #5
king david didn't demonize anyone Mosby May 2014 #6
Nothing unfounded it's right there in writing the subject of the thread is Palestinians azurnoir May 2014 #9
you seem to be saying that Palestinian anti-Semitism is understandable Mosby May 2014 #10
ah so you're saying that Arabs are across the board anti-Semitic? azurnoir May 2014 #11
The ADL and Pew Global data say that, I'm just stating facts Mosby May 2014 #12
Good to see that they consider the West Bank and Gaza a country... shaayecanaan May 2014 #21
No Demonization to state AntiSemitism King_David May 2014 #7
weather? is it really that clouded? azurnoir May 2014 #8
Their government policies and actions speak for themselves King_David May 2014 #13
Then you are broad brushing okay just wanted clarity on that :) azurnoir May 2014 #14
Yes the government of Russia and Palestinian Governments King_David May 2014 #15
I understand that being Gay is not illegal in the West Bank azurnoir May 2014 #16
Ha ha King_David May 2014 #17
Lets see the same in Mea Sherim might cause problems though azurnoir May 2014 #18
Who's talking about Israel ? King_David May 2014 #19
Lets we forget, how many groups lived under British colonial rule and hated them? R. Daneel Olivaw May 2014 #20
If you don't agree with them 4now May 2014 #2
 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
1. Poignantly more...
Mon May 19, 2014, 08:56 PM
May 2014

The ADL’s insistence on conducting research in a political vacuum is apparent in the sense of entitlement among American Jews who feel they can judge anti-Semitism in other countries without taking into account the various ways Jews in those countries understand anti-Semitism. The pretension of examining the meaning that people attribute to Jews in a way that is disconnected from the world of meanings in which they live, fails on an intellectual and research-based level, not to mention that it is politically manipulative.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
3. That has always struck me
Tue May 20, 2014, 03:25 AM
May 2014

the fact that it is pretended that what is called "Palestinian antisemitism happens in a vacuum, in the exact same manor as some bigot sitting say KC, as opposed to the reality that it is hatred of a brutal military occupier and the civilian mob it protects who also happen to be Jewish

King_David

(14,851 posts)
4. And the rabid extreme homophobia. ?
Tue May 20, 2014, 07:10 AM
May 2014

Is there an explanation for that too ?

Sorry but there is o excusing homophobia. , sexism , racism., bigotry or AntiSemitism .

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
9. Nothing unfounded it's right there in writing the subject of the thread is Palestinians
Tue May 20, 2014, 01:33 PM
May 2014

and how the hatred towards it's brutal occupiers is spun as being run of the mill antisemitism

Mosby

(16,306 posts)
10. you seem to be saying that Palestinian anti-Semitism is understandable
Tue May 20, 2014, 02:42 PM
May 2014

due to the occupation.

I think the Jew hatred in Palestinian society has much deeper roots and as King David brought up, the Palestininas have a long way to go in terms of equality, egalitarianism and accepting liberal pluralism.

eta there is a V&M alert you might want to vote in, it's up to you hosts to decide whether to ignore the SoP.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
11. ah so you're saying that Arabs are across the board anti-Semitic?
Tue May 20, 2014, 02:53 PM
May 2014

as for Palestinians I am saying that what is spun as the same kind of antisemitism we saw in KC would if it were any other 2 groups be called simply hatred of a brutal military occupier but in this singular case a different standard is being applied to Palestinians than would be any other group in similar circumstances

as you are are a host your self do you think that it is proper that you make a public challenge over what could be or should dealt with in the Hosts forum?

as for your alert I had not seen it

shaayecanaan

(6,068 posts)
21. Good to see that they consider the West Bank and Gaza a country...
Tue May 20, 2014, 08:39 PM
May 2014

maybe they could advise the UN to that effect.

King_David

(14,851 posts)
7. No Demonization to state AntiSemitism
Tue May 20, 2014, 12:53 PM
May 2014

Or homophobia should not be tolerated from any group weather Palestinian , Russian , Hamas or Dacid Duke.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
8. weather? is it really that clouded?
Tue May 20, 2014, 01:31 PM
May 2014

but it seems you broad brushed Palestinians with various charges

King_David

(14,851 posts)
15. Yes the government of Russia and Palestinian Governments
Tue May 20, 2014, 06:57 PM
May 2014

Are 2 governments responsible for the most disgusting bigotry and homophobia.

DISGUSTING !!!

Perhaps you don't understand what broadbrush is ?

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
16. I understand that being Gay is not illegal in the West Bank
Tue May 20, 2014, 07:32 PM
May 2014

and that now that there is or will soon be a unity government that will most likely apply to Gaza too where being male and Gay is illegal but being female and Gay is not

really the situation in Russia where the law was very recently enacted is not comparable to the West Bank

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_by_country_or_territory#Middle_East

King_David

(14,851 posts)
17. Ha ha
Tue May 20, 2014, 07:36 PM
May 2014

Let's see us Gays kissing on main street Ramallah or Gaza and see if we still alive in the morning or not in jail.

Not as bad in Palestine as Russia ?

You got to be kidding or clueless about Gay Rights and gay liberty . Which ?

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
18. Lets see the same in Mea Sherim might cause problems though
Tue May 20, 2014, 07:40 PM
May 2014

and BTW in order for an Israeli same sex couple to marry they must leave the country and while the civil government may recognize the marriage the governments Rabbi's will not and any children of such a marriage would be considered illegitimate and not be considered Jews at least by the governmental Rabbi's who govern such things

King_David

(14,851 posts)
19. Who's talking about Israel ?
Tue May 20, 2014, 07:46 PM
May 2014

If something happens to a Gay dude in Mea Sharem you call the police and a policemen who a probably gay himself would arrive and arrest someone for a hate crime.

Palestine like Russia is a fucking bigoted area especially where Gays are concerned and if 2 gays were to kiss probably they would be killed or tortured in Palestine especially in Gaza but probably not in Russia that's how fucking homophobic it is there.

Indefensible homophobia especially here on DU--- but keep on the revelations.

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
20. Lets we forget, how many groups lived under British colonial rule and hated them?
Tue May 20, 2014, 08:27 PM
May 2014

Of course occupiers are going to be despised. I'm sure that the Israelites of old hated the Romans for the same thing. In fact the only ones who probably didn't hate the Romans were other Romans, and that is also a tenuous comment seeing how may wars of internal conquest they had.
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