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cali

(114,904 posts)
Wed Jul 2, 2014, 07:02 AM Jul 2014

Palestinian teen killed in possible revenge attack

The discovery of a body in a Jerusalem forest on Wednesday raised suspicions that a missing Palestinian youth had been killed by Israelis avenging the deaths of three abducted Jewish teens.

Rock-throwing Palestinians clashed with Israeli forces in Jerusalem after the news, but no serious injuries were reported.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, in a statement, urged police to "to swiftly investigate who was behind the loathsome murder and its motive". He called on all sides "not to take the law into their own hands".

Palestinian residents in Shuafat, an Arab suburb of Jerusalem, told Reuters they had seen a teenager forced into a vehicle outside a supermarket on Tuesday night. They identified him as Mohammed Abu Khudair, 16.

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http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/02/us-israel-palestinians-idUSKBN0F70AD20140702

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Palestinian teen killed in possible revenge attack (Original Post) cali Jul 2014 OP
This is going to get out of hand R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2014 #1
So when does Israel start dropping bombs on the settlements, rounding geek tragedy Jul 2014 #2
Oh please. Shaktimaan Jul 2014 #8
Settlers kill Palestinians with some regularity. geek tragedy Jul 2014 #11
But none of that is true. Shaktimaan Jul 2014 #12
There are no Palestinian officials in Israel's government. geek tragedy Jul 2014 #13
Of course there are. Shaktimaan Jul 2014 #16
Israeli police got busted beating the crap out geek tragedy Jul 2014 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Jul 2014 #3
maybe it was Mosby... Israeli Jul 2014 #4
And here we have it folks... R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2014 #5
That was very early on and not really what would be called mainstream sources azurnoir Jul 2014 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Jul 2014 #7
Yes, those who share the ideology of the terrorist thugs geek tragedy Jul 2014 #10
Nice attempted deflection. n/t Comrade Grumpy Jul 2014 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Jul 2014 #15
Horrible, whether intent was nationalist or criminal. n/t shira Jul 2014 #9
 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
1. This is going to get out of hand
Wed Jul 2, 2014, 12:23 PM
Jul 2014

unless things are resolved quickly.

I hope they can find the guilty parties to all of these murders and bring them to justice.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
2. So when does Israel start dropping bombs on the settlements, rounding
Wed Jul 2, 2014, 12:31 PM
Jul 2014

up hundreds of extremists in the settlements for detention, and bring the perps to justice?

Oh wait, that will never happen, because Israel doesn't care about Palestinian lives, barely considering them human, and the settlers are considered above the law and have de facto legal impunity to kill and terrorize Palestinians.

And so it continues, a series of revenge killings by thugs on both sides masquerading as justice. Only difference is that the Israeli revenge killings will have the imprimatur of Israel's government and the US political and media establishments.

Shaktimaan

(5,397 posts)
8. Oh please.
Wed Jul 2, 2014, 09:12 PM
Jul 2014

When was the last time a settler killed a palestinian prior to this? This instance having garnered derision, pleas for calm and a hunt for the perpetrator by the govt you lambaste here as all but an active co-conspirator. 50 settlers have been arrested thus far btw. And the bombing in Gaza is hardly related to the kidnapping; but is rather in response to the rocket attacks originating from there.

Please show me a us or Israeli news piece supporting this act. I'd love to see one.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
11. Settlers kill Palestinians with some regularity.
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 01:22 AM
Jul 2014

It's never prosecuted. The settlers are considered above the law. Why not? They are Israel's paramilitary shock troops in their effort to conquer the

The Israeli government will condone this by trying to blame it on Palestinians. Just like anti-Americans in the Arab world condoned the 9/11 attacks by blaming them on Israeli art students.

If the Israeli government really, truly considered Palestinian children to be human beings, its policies would be much different .

Shaktimaan

(5,397 posts)
12. But none of that is true.
Sat Jul 5, 2014, 05:47 AM
Jul 2014

In 2011 it appears there were two instances of settlers killing palestinian civilians. In that same time period seven settlers were killed by palestinian civilians.

Nor is it true that Israel never prosecutes for these crimes. Hundreds every year are prosecuted for violence or other crimes against Palestinians.

The Israeli government will condone this by trying to blame it on Palestinians.


The Israeli government has already said the exact opposite in the very article you are responding to.

You seem to just reject any information that doesn't fit in with what you've already decided to believe.

If the Israeli government really, truly considered Palestinian children to be human beings, its policies would be much different .


That doesn't even make sense. Governments aren't people. They don't hold specific monolithic beliefs of that sort. Or are you truly suggesting that the palestinian members of Israel's government don't consider their own sons and daughters to be human?
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
13. There are no Palestinian officials in Israel's government.
Sat Jul 5, 2014, 11:50 AM
Jul 2014

Certainly Bibi and Likud certainly do not view Arabs as fully human. There was no national moment of grief for the dead Arab teenager. Barely a pause in the eliminationist rhetoric from Israeli society and an effort to avoid admitting this was the work of Israelis. Netanyahu has exploited this whole affair to score points against the Palestinian unity government. Transparently so.

Both sides have successfully dehumanized the other. And this kind of raw hatred and evil is the future of both the Palestinians and Israel for the rest of our lives.

Shaktimaan

(5,397 posts)
16. Of course there are.
Sat Jul 5, 2014, 09:59 PM
Jul 2014
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Arab_members_of_the_Knesset

Currently around 12 Israeli Arab and Israeli Druze Knesset members. All of whom are Palestinian, obviously.

Certainly Bibi and Likud certainly do not view Arabs as fully human.


You should probably avoid making specific assumptions about what so many people believe based on such scarce evidence as whether or not an official memorial was held.

Both sides have successfully dehumanized the other. And this kind of raw hatred and evil is the future of both the Palestinians and Israel for the rest of our


Agreed. However don't you see how making accusations like "Israel doesnt consider palestinian children human" is an active part of such dehuminization?
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
17. Israeli police got busted beating the crap out
Sat Jul 5, 2014, 11:56 PM
Jul 2014

of the victim's family. Not a suspect's family, the victim's family.

That is how they respond to hate crimes against Arabs.

That pretty much says it all.

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azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
6. That was very early on and not really what would be called mainstream sources
Wed Jul 2, 2014, 06:18 PM
Jul 2014
Sources: Revenge most likely motive in teen’s death

Israeli police have become increasingly convinced that 16-year-old Jerusalem resident Mohammed Abu Khdeir was murdered Wednesday morning as revenge for the killing of three kidnapped Israeli teens, officials said Wednesday evening.


Security camera footage from the scene of Abu Khdeir’s kidnapping strengthened investigators’ suspicions that Jewish extremists snatched the teen, Channel 2 reported.

Police are still looking into the possibility of a criminal motive for the attack, or even an honor killing, but sources told Channel 10 that the family has no criminal history.

The sources also said rumors claiming that Abu Khdeir was killed because he was gay, or because he’d had sexual encounters with local girls, are baseless.



http://www.timesofisrael.com/sources-revenge-most-likely-motive-in-teens-death/

Response to azurnoir (Reply #6)

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
10. Yes, those who share the ideology of the terrorist thugs
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 01:00 AM
Jul 2014

who murdered this kid. Kahanists gotta protect one another .

Response to Comrade Grumpy (Reply #14)

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