Israel/Palestine
Related: About this forumBeating Palestinian boys ‘to a pulp’ is a tradition among Israeli forces
http://mondoweiss.net/2014/07/palestinian-children-tradition.htmlThis narrative ought to be familiar to the western press. It is a very old script inside the occupied territories when Palestinian boys are suspected of throwing stones, or they are near other children who have thrown stones.
Two years ago, the Israeli human rights organization Breaking the Silence published a report on the brutal treatment of children, titled, Children and Youth Soldiers Testimonies, 2005-2011. If there is one theme in the 70-page report of anonymous statements, it is Israeli soldiers beating Palestinian children to a pulp. The word pulp appears 12 times in the report.
Here are several of the references, describing boys about Tarek Abu Khdeirs age, 15. Many other beatings, not to a pulp, also appear in the report (Ive included one of the most egregious, at the end). Also, note that a Motorola Solutions device is used in one beating; the Presbyterian Church just voted to divest from that company because of its role in the occupation.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)alsame
(7,784 posts)They 'continue to be shocked'
QUESTION: First, do you have any update on the American citizen who was detained and that was then put under house arrest?
MS. PSAKI: I dont know if I have much of an update since yesterday, Matt, but let me provide you --
QUESTION: Well, has he been has anyone gone to visit him? Have you looked at his has he is his health okay?
MS. PSAKI: Well first, our we visited him in the an official from the U.S. Consulate General visited him on July 5th and attended his hearing on July 6th. Weve also seen the family. I dont have anything else to read out for you in terms of his health.
Obviously, this is a case where we remain deeply concerned about the reports. In fact, we remain shocked that he was severely beaten while in police custody and strongly have condemned that, and any use of excessive force, of course. Were calling and I would reiterate our call for a speedy and transparent and credible investigation. As I understand it, hes been interviewed for that, and so thats moving forward.
QUESTION: You remain shocked?
MS. PSAKI: Well, we are shocked.
QUESTION: Youre shocked --
QUESTION: Well, it sounds like --
QUESTION: Youre shocked when a --
MS. PSAKI: We continue to be shocked.
QUESTION: Okay.
QUESTION: What you were saying, I think on Thursday or in your statements over the weekend, that you remain concerned about reports that he was apparently beaten. And now youre saying that youre shocked that he was beaten. So it seems as if like it doesnt seem as if theres any doubt, really, now. I mean, there might be a doubt as to how it happened, or the extent of it, or whether what he did the Israeli Ambassador said that he was provoking, that he wasnt an innocent bystander, that kind of implied that he asked for it.
MS. PSAKI: Well, Elise, a couple things, as you know, happened over the weekend. One, of course, we our consulate a representative from our Consulate General was able to see him. And obviously, hes been released and is with his family now at this time. And of course, Ive seen the comments, and our view is an arrest is justified for anyone who is guilty of committing a crime. And obviously, theres an investigation; therell be a process to review that. But beating an arrestee after they are subdued and in custody is never justified. So we will let the process see itself through. But certainly, weve all seen him and weve been in touch with him, and we are continuing to call for a credible investigation.
QUESTION: Have you formally demarched the Israeli Government about it?
MS. PSAKI: Weve been in close touch with the government, but Im not aware of a specific demarche.
QUESTION: Do you have any concerns about the an Israeli investigation into this incident?
MS. PSAKI: Weve seen Prime Minister Netanyahu and other officials express strong concern about a range of these reports, and theyve expressed a commitment to seeing through an investigation.
QUESTION: All right. Now meanwhile, in southern Israel --
QUESTION: Well, can we just stay on this for one second?
QUESTION: Yeah.
MS. PSAKI: Mm-hmm.
QUESTION: I understand that Secretary Kerry spoke with Prime Minister Netanyahu over the weekend. Was this case in particular brought up, or was it about the larger kind of escalating violence?
MS. PSAKI: He reiterated the Secretary did speak with the prime minister about a range of incidents that are happening on the ground, Elise. And certainly, the focus was on reiterating our concern about escalating tensions. And the Secretary, of course, urged Prime Minister Netanyahu as hes urged both parties to exercise restraint and avoid steps that could further destabilize the situation.
http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/dpb/2014/07/228782.htm
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki said the United States "strongly condemn(s) any excessive use of force," referring to the alleged beating.
boom goes the deceptive editing by you, dear az.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)boom goes the truth because while you accuse me of hate but the only hateful accusative replies here are not mine
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)But I have a hard time accepting that such a generic, non-specific condemnation of "any use of excessive force" is sufficient in this case.
It's a broad blandishment in general, that avoids actually talking about the particular situation.
cali
(114,904 posts)to me you and certain partisans here on the other side are so much alike, it would be funny if it weren't all so hate filled.
You are what you profess to despise.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)why do you feel that is hate?