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Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 07:59 PM Jul 2014

Op-Ed: My Outline for a Solution in Gaza

The plan as the man puts it out there, be gone..Palestinians:

Deputy Speaker of the Knesset, Knesset Member, and head of the Manhigut Yehudit ("Jewish Leadership&quot faction of Israel's governing Likud party. Feiglin won a seat in the Israeli Knesset for the first time in elections held January 22, 2013. Feiglin advocates predicating Israeli policy on three principles: Liberty, Jewish Identity and restoring Meaning into Israeli life. ( wiki )

Published: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 11:01 PM


Ultimatum – One warning from the Prime Minister of Israel to the enemy population, in which he announces that Israel is about to attack military targets in their area and urges those who are not involved and do not wish to be harmed to leave immediately. Sinai is not far from Gaza and they can leave. This will be the limit of Israel’s humanitarian efforts. Hamas may unconditionally surrender and prevent the attack.

Attack – Attack the entire ‘target bank’ throughout Gaza with the IDF’s maximum force (and not a tiny fraction of it) with all the conventional means at its disposal. All the military and infrastructural targets will be attacked with no consideration for ‘human shields’ or ‘environmental damage’. It is enough that we are hitting exact targets and that we gave them advance warning.

Siege – Parallel to the above, a total siege on Gaza. Nothing will enter the area. Israel, however, will allow exit from Gaza. (Civilians may go to Sinai, fighters may surrender to IDF forces).

Defense – Any place from which Israel or Israel’s forces were attacked will be immediately attacked with full force and no consideration for ‘human shields’ or ‘environmental damage’.

Conquer – After the IDF completes the "softening" of the targets with its fire-power, the IDF will conquer the entire Gaza, using all the means necessary to minimize any harm to our soldiers, with no other considerations.

in full: http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/15326#.U8hiqLFA2zJ
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Op-Ed: My Outline for a Solution in Gaza (Original Post) Jefferson23 Jul 2014 OP
In other words, genocide. PDJane Jul 2014 #1
Into the Sinai in Egypt, and is he worried about casualties? Only those of the IDF it seems. Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #2
Utter genocide. And the world sits by the lets it happen. This is when you wish there were a God. chimpymustgo Jul 2014 #3
In other words another Nakba. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2014 #10
When I compare Likud to Hamas, sometimes I wonder if the comparison is unfair geek tragedy Jul 2014 #4
I admit, I read a great deal of different opinions from the right in Israel..that's who is in power. Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #5
these are the people who will destroy Israel, not any external threat geek tragedy Jul 2014 #6
+1. Yes, unfortunately true and how/when that will change? It does not look hopeful. n/t Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #7
When Israelis come to grips with the fact that a nation cannot be made safe geek tragedy Jul 2014 #8
Damn! kjones Jul 2014 #9
Moshe Zalman Feiglin sabbat hunter Jul 2014 #11
How is this man a member of the Knesset? R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2014 #13
It is one thing to have these views, which are repugnant, but that he is a member of the Knesset Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #14
meh. He's vile, but we have members of Congress just as vile. cali Jul 2014 #17
My statement does not suggest Israel has an exclusive rank on vile in their government. When we Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #19
This is the #2 guy in Israel's ruling party nt geek tragedy Jul 2014 #22
Feiglin is an assh*les assh*le. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2014 #12
Feiglin is sick, a horrible disgusting man. LeftishBrit Jul 2014 #15
This guy sounds like a real nasty piece of work. WatermelonRat Jul 2014 #16
who is Moshe Feiglin ? Israeli Jul 2014 #18
Thanks for the links, Israeli. How are things where you are..ok? n/t Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #20
What is the relationship b/w Feiglin and Dani Danon? n/t shira Jul 2014 #21
similar ideas sabbat hunter Jul 2014 #23

chimpymustgo

(12,774 posts)
3. Utter genocide. And the world sits by the lets it happen. This is when you wish there were a God.
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 08:37 PM
Jul 2014

the only hope for some mercy, some justice.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
4. When I compare Likud to Hamas, sometimes I wonder if the comparison is unfair
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 08:55 PM
Jul 2014

to Hamas.

This guy, and everyone who thinks like him, are simply monsters.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
5. I admit, I read a great deal of different opinions from the right in Israel..that's who is in power.
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 08:57 PM
Jul 2014

So I am not shocked too easily..this one made me gasp.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
6. these are the people who will destroy Israel, not any external threat
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 08:59 PM
Jul 2014

Guys like this will cause Israel to become such a monstrosity that Jews across the world will be forced to disown it.

Every generation of Israelis is more and more rightwing.

The comparison to a certain government in the past is usually quite odious, but it seems almost unavoidable for this guy, who makes Kahane look moderate.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
8. When Israelis come to grips with the fact that a nation cannot be made safe
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 09:18 PM
Jul 2014

strictly by power and control over another one.

Personally, I do not see any way Israel as a Jewish state will last more than another 50 years before it collapses under the weight of its own internal contradictions and demographics.

kjones

(1,053 posts)
9. Damn!
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 09:57 PM
Jul 2014

I made the mistake of reading some of the comments below it.
Some of the things said down there would make even the most
bigoted supremacist blush.
Even my grandpa might call for moderation.


I'm not even religious, but I think I need to go pray after that.

sabbat hunter

(6,829 posts)
11. Moshe Zalman Feiglin
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 10:27 PM
Jul 2014

Is a horrible human being, and I loathe to call him human with what he wants to do. He wants to relegate Israeli arabs to second class citizens, by not allowing them to have equal rights, annex the WB and grant all arabs who live there, permanent resident status, but not citizenship, which is also second class treatment. Then on top of it he wants to ethnically cleanse Gaza?

How is this man a member of the Knesset?

he makes me to want to

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
13. How is this man a member of the Knesset?
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 10:29 PM
Jul 2014

He has found a following of others like him who want to go back to the good old times of hardcore colonial bigotry.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
14. It is one thing to have these views, which are repugnant, but that he is a member of the Knesset
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 09:20 AM
Jul 2014

is what is so disturbing.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
17. meh. He's vile, but we have members of Congress just as vile.
Sat Jul 19, 2014, 04:09 AM
Jul 2014

and there are members of Parliaments in Europe just as vile. There are small segments of populations in many countries who elect hater bigots. It's not unique to Israel.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
19. My statement does not suggest Israel has an exclusive rank on vile in their government. When we
Sat Jul 19, 2014, 08:04 AM
Jul 2014

see someone of this nature become accepted into such positions, it should give pause. Does not
matter which government it happens to occur.

Israeli

(4,151 posts)
18. who is Moshe Feiglin ?
Sat Jul 19, 2014, 05:00 AM
Jul 2014
The Assassination of Yitzhak Rabin


On Sept. 3, Jerusalem Magistrate's Court convicted anti-Oslo leaders Moshe Feiglin and Shmuel Sackett of sedition for their conduct in the summer of 1995.


source :
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/rabinass.html

Feiglin: Israel's clear and present danger

Moshe Feiglin is the face of Israel's new mainstream, ultra-nationalist movement. His muses range from Meir Kahane to Martin Luther King Jr, and his co-option of American liberalism and Israeli democracy is precisely where his danger lies.

http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/feiglin-israel-s-clear-and-present-danger.premium-1.484748


Feiglin Warns Rabin’s Granddaughter She Faces Libel Suit



Newly-appointed Deputy Knesset Speaker Moshe Feiglin has warned one of former Prime Minister Yitzchak Rabin’s grandchildren that her remarks about him are grounds for libel.

Noa Rotman, after hearing that Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu appointed Feiglin as of one several deputy speakers, wrote on Facebook, “Feiglin is the man who established Zu Artzeinu, the movement that was responsible or the incitement that brought democracy in Israel to a new low and brought about the murder of the Prime Minister of Israel.”


http://www.kosherpress.com/feiglin-warns-rabins-granddaughter-she-faces-libel-suit/

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