Hamas to the world: Gaza has decided to break its siege .

[ellenrr]

Deputy Head of Hamas's Political Bureau Ismail Haniyeh addressed the world on Monday, saying: "Gaza has decided to break its siege with blood, steadfastness and resistance."
Israel has been imposing a strict siege of Gaza for about eight years, and yet the international community and most Arab countries have done nothing to challenge this illegal blockade.
Speaking on Al-Aqsa television, Haniyeh stressed that the Palestinians in Gaza had decided not to retreat from their position and reaffirmed the demands of the Palestinian fighters: "Stopping the Israeli aggression, lifting the siege with all of its consequences, releasing all prisoners freed in the 2011 exchange and guaranteeing that there will be no repetition of Israeli aggression."
Haniyeh pointed out that: "These are consistent and just humanitarian demands, in keeping with international law and the previous agreements." He called for all free nations to support the demands of the people in the Gaza Strip until the end of the bloodbath in Gaza.
- See more at: http://www.middleeastmonitor.com/news/middle-east/12982-hamas-to-the-world-gaza-has-decided-to-break-its-siege#sthash.WVJl74uT.dpuf

[shira]

1. At what cost? How's it working out for them?

You support them?

[shira]

3. When did this place turn into Radical Underground?

You think 1 elected Dem. would agree with what you just posted, and if so who?

[PCIntern]

5. Your second line might be the most ridiculous thing I have read in

4 hours.

[rafeh1]

6. israel's weakness

Israel's weakness is endurance. The can kill and dominate but the want short wars aka 6 day war. Fighting a 6 month war Israel can win every battle but still lose the war.

[leftynyc]

8. That's what happens

when you fight with one hand tied behind your back. Do you doubt Israel could raze the entire Gaza strip in about an hour if that was what they wanted to do?

[kjones]

21. Wonder how many civilians they could kill with two hands...

[leftynyc]

23. I would suspect all of them

which would be why they're at least trying to be more careful.

[kjones]

25. Sounds suspiciously like

the only thing keeping them from doing that is the "hand tied behind their back."
Which I assume is humanitarian outcry.


I can't believe anyone could call the current situation "careful." Not with a
straight face.

[PCIntern]

24. I am simply awaiting one person here to admit

that Hamas is hiding behind these civilians.

You will not do it.

[shira]

28. Yeah right, remember that time when pro-Palestinian....

....activists condemned Hamas for using hospitals and schools for military purposes?

I don't either.

[leftynyc]

9. Yes - apart from over 600 people dead

and a blown up infrastructure, things are going just swimmingly under the leadership of hamas.

[leftynyc]

12. Do you doubt that Israel

could raze the entire Gaza strip in about an hour if that's what they wanted to do? Why is it they haven't? I'm sure the civilians in Gaza are just thrilled beyond words that an anonymous poster on the internet thinks they're winning.

[leftynyc]

14. And which country

would send even one of their military to die for hamas? Where are the calls from their populations to intervene?

[leftynyc]

16. Unfortunately for you

it has everything to do with hamas. Your "in pretty much every country by the US" is a lie. I don't see even one country putting any pressure on Israel at all. Perhaps it's because they have their own problems. When you vote in a terrorist organization as your leaders, perhaps it's naive to expect help from the rest of the world.

[enid602]

27. air travel

We just cut all air travel from the US to Israel, and several European countries subsequently followed suit. All during Israel's high tourism season. Just a coincidence?

[enid602]

29. LBJ

No Dem can stand up to Israel, for fear of losing part of their constituency. I fear, though that Dems will at some time be facing an 'LBJ, circa 1965' moment. LBJ knew that if he signed the Civil Rights Act he could write off the South. That did indeed happen. But he changed the course of history.

[shira]

30. Elected Dems, unlike radicals, don't support Hamas

Hamas is very deliberately trying to maximize civilian casualties, and radical western friends of Hamas are covering for them, ensuring more civilians on both sides suffer (especially Palestinians). You can't expect Dems to start advocating the same insanity as the radicals.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/113471416

You'll find overwhelming evidence of what I just wrote in the above link. I just updated that thread minutes ago w/ more proof.

[enid602]

31. cowardly

I would agree with you that Hamas is using the dead to garner sympathy. I'm not sure that I can say that Israelis have been above using this tactic during the last 80 or so years. Using the dead to garner sympathy is cowardly, but so is pummeling innocents when you're protected by Uncle Sam's armaments and technology. Even more so when Uncle Sam asks you to cool it and be nice, and you tell him to fuck off. World opinion changes and morphs. Growing dislike of Israeli atrocities can no longer be written off to anti-Semitism. Update your talking points.

[shira]

32. Hamas isn't just using dead to garner sympathy...

They are very deliberately doing their best to MAXIMIZE the number of civilians killed by setting up shop in schools, hospitals, residences, and mosques.

There are no radical "pro-Palestinian" voices who oppose this. In fact, they are very willingly helping Hamas cover this up.

Dems aren't getting onboard with this anytime soon.

[leftynyc]

7. Who the hell are you

to talk about who belongs here with your 10 posts? If that's how you want to start out your DU guest status, perhaps it's you that needs to rethink staying.

[Blue_Adept]

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[leftynyc]

18. Poster managed a hidden post

on his very first day. How proud he/she must be.

[Igel]

19. And yet they attack one of the two countries blockading them.

In fact, they consistently attack just one of the two countries blockading them.

You'd think perhaps they'd try the other with a bit more effort.

(It's also worth pointing out that Hamas essentially says when the "seige" started. Yet before the seige there were rockets heading into Israel and other acts that triggered the seige. They fight and have one setback, and in fighting that setback they trigger a second; in fighting to have the second setback reversed, they trigger a third; in fighting to reverse the third they trigger a fourth. At some point they've gotten so far in the hole that the sky above seems black and starry at midday. Perhaps they should rethink what caused the initial setback and resolve it?)

[FBaggins]

20. The World to Hamas: Good luck with that.

These are consistent and just humanitarian demands

Hamas really shouldn't use the word "humanitarian" in their missives. There's just no way of knowing how many innocent readers may be drinking carbonated beverages at the time.

[FrodosPet]

22. Exactly. Do humanitarians encourage child suicide?

[Turbineguy]

26. It sort of begs the question:

Why did those Arab countries stop helping the Palestinians?