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Related: About this forumAqsa restrictions continue for Palestinian worshipers
JERUSALEM (Ma'an) -- Israeli forces continued to impose restrictions on Palestinian access to the Al-Aqsa Mosque compound on Monday, closing the majority of entry gates and denying entry to men under 40.Director of Al-Aqsa Mosque, Sheikh Omar al-Kiswani, told Ma'an that the Hatta Gate, Lions Gate, Council Gate and Chain Gate were open, with the remaining gates closed.
Palestinian men under 40 were denied entry while women were permitted to enter but forced to leave their identity cards with Israeli forces.
"What does it mean to open al-Aqsa gates at 11 a.m.? What does it mean to allow Muslim worshipers into the mosque only after 10 a.m.?" Sheikh Kiswani said.
"This means dividing the mosque in time," he added.
http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=737123
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Who continue to be forbidden from praying inside the Temple Mount.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Hasn't been a Jewish Temple there since... what is it, 66 AD?
Take it up with Rome.
King_David
(14,851 posts)Last edited Mon Nov 3, 2014, 10:21 PM - Edit history (1)
Or you've never been there or most likely both.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)I understand, for example, that the temple was destroyed by the Romans. Which is to say, there is no longer a Jewish temple there, and hasn't been for over nineteen hundred years.
Something else I understand, is that the place has been an Islamic holy site for thirteen hundred and twenty-three years. And while I do not cleave to any particular religious denomination myself, I have visited more than a few houses of worship. The polite thing to do is to behave yourself like a guest at the place, even if you so not share the beliefs of the people who worship there.
King_David
(14,851 posts)Also Jews , Judaism, Jewish people.
All of tribal affairs obsesses you, from Israel to Jews to Jusaism and our religion and holy places.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Are you going to claim that I don't know the history or are you going to complain that I do?
There was a temple. That temple was destroyed nineteen hundred and forty-four years ago, it is no more. Three hundred years later, Muslims show up, build their own shrine and mosque on the ruin. They've been worshiping and caretaking there ever since. It's now a Muslim place of worship. And the standard of etiquette when visiting someone else's place of worship is that you follow their rules while there.
King_David
(14,851 posts)Quite the obsession.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Not real good at fishing are ou, Dave?
King_David
(14,851 posts)Observing what's obvious.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)It makes no sense to claim that I don't know the history, then get your boxers in a twist when I show otherwise.
Is there something wrong with knowing the history of the temple? If so, why were you mocking me with claims that I didn't know about it?
Are you just upset that you really don't have a counter for the common-sense point that you should be on your best guest-behavior when visiting someone else's place of worship, and abide by their rules when making such visits?
King_David
(14,851 posts)Apparently you need do some more reading and research cos you don't get it correct or otherwise still .
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)If there were something I was missing, I know I could count on you to bring it up.
All you're doing is dumping chum in the water, though.
King_David
(14,851 posts)Keep on it.
hack89
(39,171 posts)The Jews are just being unreasonable in regarding the holiest place in their religion sacred because the temple was destroyed a long time ago and they need to just get over it?
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)hack89
(39,171 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)however just as non-Jews cannot hold religious services at the Kotel (Wailing Wall), non-Muslims cannot hold religious services at the Temple Mount also know as al Aqsa, why do you seems to either insist on greater rights for Jews/Christians or not understand what is meant by access
Dick Dastardly
(937 posts)unlike the Temple Mount where non Muslims have access but are forbidden to pray. Even the Pope who said prayers at the Wall was forbidden to do so on the Mount.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Are you going to argue that it's invisible, perhaps?
It's the grounds of a mosque, and a Muslim shrine. it's a Muslim site. Has been for nearly fourteen hundred years. You can declare it sacred however you like, but it's still a Muslim site, under the authority of the Muslim waqf, and so, proper etiquette hold that you abide by the rules they have set for the site.
Maybe those rules will change, if peace happens to break out. Until then, the rules say that if you want to pray there, you better find some witnesses and do the shahada.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)The teenager entered the volatile compound accompanied by a news crew from Channel 2 and with a heavy police escort.
Glick visited the spots where his father, Yehudah Glick, chose to pray and offered personal supplications for his dads speedy recovery.
http://www.timesofisrael.com/yehudah-glicks-son-prays-on-temple-mount-for-fathers-recovery/#ixzz3I2fgpGiy
This represents yet another slap in the face to the US who Netanyahu told yesterday he would control such provocations and a breach of the Israel-Jordan Peace Treaty
King_David
(14,851 posts)It looks like a Jew praying in an area he considers the Holiest place in the world for Jews.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)and makes a lie of Netanyahu's words to the US on Sunday
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)doing.
One bold move, abstain from voting at the UNSC, Obama.
Want to see someone change their tune, quick?