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Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 08:29 PM Nov 2014

Aqsa restrictions continue for Palestinian worshipers

JERUSALEM (Ma'an) -- Israeli forces continued to impose restrictions on Palestinian access to the Al-Aqsa Mosque compound on Monday, closing the majority of entry gates and denying entry to men under 40.

Director of Al-Aqsa Mosque, Sheikh Omar al-Kiswani, told Ma'an that the Hatta Gate, Lions Gate, Council Gate and Chain Gate were open, with the remaining gates closed.

Palestinian men under 40 were denied entry while women were permitted to enter but forced to leave their identity cards with Israeli forces.

"What does it mean to open al-Aqsa gates at 11 a.m.? What does it mean to allow Muslim worshipers into the mosque only after 10 a.m.?" Sheikh Kiswani said.

"This means dividing the mosque in time," he added.

http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=737123
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Aqsa restrictions continue for Palestinian worshipers (Original Post) Jefferson23 Nov 2014 OP
And for all Jewish Israelis oberliner Nov 2014 #1
What Temple? Scootaloo Nov 2014 #2
Guess you don't understand history King_David Nov 2014 #3
No, I understand pretty well Scootaloo Nov 2014 #4
Not only an expert on Zionists King_David Nov 2014 #5
Make up your mind, Dave Scootaloo Nov 2014 #6
As I said an expert on Jews. King_David Nov 2014 #7
Lots of bait, but no hook Scootaloo Nov 2014 #10
No fishing , no bait King_David Nov 2014 #13
As I said Dave Scootaloo Nov 2014 #18
Nope King_David Nov 2014 #19
Nah, I'm fine Scootaloo Nov 2014 #20
No that's not it at all, King_David Nov 2014 #21
So a foreign power can dictate what is sacred to a people? hack89 Nov 2014 #8
ah but Israel signed the treaty with Jordan, would you prefer it to be nullified? azurnoir Nov 2014 #9
Yes. Equal access to all faiths. Nt hack89 Nov 2014 #12
and all faiths have access to visit the site azurnoir Nov 2014 #14
You are wrong. Non Jews are very much allowed to access and pray at the Western Wall Dick Dastardly Nov 2014 #23
The Pope conducted a Mass at the Kotel really? Women are not allowed to pray at the Kotel azurnoir Nov 2014 #24
Well, there's no temple there, is there? Scootaloo Nov 2014 #11
Yehudah Glick’s son prays on Temple Mount for father’s recovery azurnoir Nov 2014 #15
Look at the picture , he's not inside a mosque or anything. King_David Nov 2014 #16
No he is not however he is still in breach of the Jordan Israel treaty azurnoir Nov 2014 #17
Let's see what we do, we can pretty much count on what Bibi and his friends will continue Jefferson23 Nov 2014 #22

King_David

(14,851 posts)
3. Guess you don't understand history
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 09:17 PM
Nov 2014

Last edited Mon Nov 3, 2014, 10:21 PM - Edit history (1)

Or you've never been there or most likely both.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
4. No, I understand pretty well
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 10:13 PM
Nov 2014

I understand, for example, that the temple was destroyed by the Romans. Which is to say, there is no longer a Jewish temple there, and hasn't been for over nineteen hundred years.

Something else I understand, is that the place has been an Islamic holy site for thirteen hundred and twenty-three years. And while I do not cleave to any particular religious denomination myself, I have visited more than a few houses of worship. The polite thing to do is to behave yourself like a guest at the place, even if you so not share the beliefs of the people who worship there.

King_David

(14,851 posts)
5. Not only an expert on Zionists
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 10:20 PM
Nov 2014

Also Jews , Judaism, Jewish people.

All of tribal affairs obsesses you, from Israel to Jews to Jusaism and our religion and holy places.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
6. Make up your mind, Dave
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 10:35 PM
Nov 2014

Are you going to claim that I don't know the history or are you going to complain that I do?

There was a temple. That temple was destroyed nineteen hundred and forty-four years ago, it is no more. Three hundred years later, Muslims show up, build their own shrine and mosque on the ruin. They've been worshiping and caretaking there ever since. It's now a Muslim place of worship. And the standard of etiquette when visiting someone else's place of worship is that you follow their rules while there.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
18. As I said Dave
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 03:32 PM
Nov 2014

It makes no sense to claim that I don't know the history, then get your boxers in a twist when I show otherwise.

Is there something wrong with knowing the history of the temple? If so, why were you mocking me with claims that I didn't know about it?

Are you just upset that you really don't have a counter for the common-sense point that you should be on your best guest-behavior when visiting someone else's place of worship, and abide by their rules when making such visits?

King_David

(14,851 posts)
19. Nope
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 03:41 PM
Nov 2014

Apparently you need do some more reading and research cos you don't get it correct or otherwise still .

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
20. Nah, I'm fine
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 04:30 PM
Nov 2014

If there were something I was missing, I know I could count on you to bring it up.

All you're doing is dumping chum in the water, though.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
8. So a foreign power can dictate what is sacred to a people?
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 11:00 PM
Nov 2014

The Jews are just being unreasonable in regarding the holiest place in their religion sacred because the temple was destroyed a long time ago and they need to just get over it?

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
14. and all faiths have access to visit the site
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 12:46 AM
Nov 2014

however just as non-Jews cannot hold religious services at the Kotel (Wailing Wall), non-Muslims cannot hold religious services at the Temple Mount also know as al Aqsa, why do you seems to either insist on greater rights for Jews/Christians or not understand what is meant by access

Dick Dastardly

(937 posts)
23. You are wrong. Non Jews are very much allowed to access and pray at the Western Wall
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 01:53 AM
Nov 2014

unlike the Temple Mount where non Muslims have access but are forbidden to pray. Even the Pope who said prayers at the Wall was forbidden to do so on the Mount.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
11. Well, there's no temple there, is there?
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 11:35 PM
Nov 2014

Are you going to argue that it's invisible, perhaps?

It's the grounds of a mosque, and a Muslim shrine. it's a Muslim site. Has been for nearly fourteen hundred years. You can declare it sacred however you like, but it's still a Muslim site, under the authority of the Muslim waqf, and so, proper etiquette hold that you abide by the rules they have set for the site.

Maybe those rules will change, if peace happens to break out. Until then, the rules say that if you want to pray there, you better find some witnesses and do the shahada.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
15. Yehudah Glick’s son prays on Temple Mount for father’s recovery
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 12:50 AM
Nov 2014
Shahar Glick, whose Temple Mount activist father was shot last week in an attempted assassination, visited the Temple Mount on Monday to pray for his father’s recovery as he underwent lifesaving surger

The teenager entered the volatile compound accompanied by a news crew from Channel 2 and with a heavy police escort.

Glick visited the spots where his father, Yehudah Glick, chose to pray and offered personal supplications for his dad’s speedy recovery.


http://www.timesofisrael.com/yehudah-glicks-son-prays-on-temple-mount-for-fathers-recovery/#ixzz3I2fgpGiy

This represents yet another slap in the face to the US who Netanyahu told yesterday he would control such provocations and a breach of the Israel-Jordan Peace Treaty

King_David

(14,851 posts)
16. Look at the picture , he's not inside a mosque or anything.
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 01:01 AM
Nov 2014

It looks like a Jew praying in an area he considers the Holiest place in the world for Jews.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
17. No he is not however he is still in breach of the Jordan Israel treaty
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 01:54 AM
Nov 2014

and makes a lie of Netanyahu's words to the US on Sunday

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
22. Let's see what we do, we can pretty much count on what Bibi and his friends will continue
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 05:22 PM
Nov 2014

doing.

One bold move, abstain from voting at the UNSC, Obama.

Want to see someone change their tune, quick?

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