‘What is your religion?’ question surprises two American visitors to the occupation

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

http://mondoweiss.net/2014/11/surprises-visitors-occupation

Here’s a video I shot inside the Ibrahimi Mosque in Hebron on November 8. My traveling party had just run into another group of Americans and we started gabbing– ten students who were doing a year in Amman, Jordan, and had come over to Palestine to see the sights.

Then these two women, both age 20, told us about being asked what their religion is by Israeli authorities– first at the border at Allenby Bridge, and then in Hebron, at the entrance to Shuhada Street. They’d never been asked that question by an authority before.

The women are both Muslims, and when they said they were Muslim, they were not allowed to walk down Shuhada Street. Even though they had American passports. Shuhada Street is infamous because it’s an apartheid road. Jews can use it, but Palestinians can’t.

You can see these two women’s reactions to the policy for yourself; I believe they were offended. Frankly I was too upset to ask them.

[oberliner]

1. "Here’s a video I shot inside the Ibrahimi Mosque..."

De-Judiazation in full effect by white American loons like Phil.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

2. And once again, the Ober sidesteps the truth in favour of his own imagination...

[BillZBubb]

6. Old habits die hard.

[oberliner]

9. The Cave of the Patriarchs

Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob are buried there. The founding fathers of Judaism.

Weird that they ended up buried in a mosque.

[shira]

10. We read earlier here that Jews should just get over their holy sites....

The Temple Mount, Cave of the Patriarchs.....now Mosques.

The apparent reasoning is that since the once oppressed are now Nazi oppressors themselves, the entire chosen people should be denied access to their holy sites.

Progressive politics in action. Gotta love it.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

17. It's Al Asqa mount, shira.

Instead of trolling for sympathy by playing the victim perhaps the temple could be built at another location.

This constant attempt to delegitimize the Palestinians and Muslims in order to gain access to (aka take over) Al Asqa is what is really disgusting.

[shira]

18. It's Judaism's holiest site on earth. The cave of the Patriarchs is holy too...

It's batshit crazy incitement claiming worldwide Jewry wants to take over the Mount or cave.

It's utterly revolting an entire people is being told to get over it or find another holy place.

The problem anti-Zionists have is that they don't believe Jews are racially pure enough to merit access to their holy sites. It's their problem and they should get over it.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

24. " It's batshit crazy incitement claiming worldwide Jewry wants to take over the Mount or cave."

Nobody has mentioned "worldwide Jewry" my poor shira, so why are you attempting to accuse others of something that they have not done?

Please refrain from the shizzle stirring.

Perhaps it is more batshit crazy, or completely dubious, to insinuate that others are accusing "worldwide Jewry" of pushing their way on to Al Asqa mount, when it is Israelis that wish to do that.


So yes, it is batshit crazy incitement claiming worldwide Jewry wants to take over the Mount or cave, as you have added into the discussion, so stop with that incitement.

[King_David]

25. To Jews it's the Temple Mount

To Muslims Al Aqsa mount .

To you something different.

Most people and most journalists in Western World and Israel refer to it as the Temple Mount.

You have an uphill battle in your new "mission" and "quest" to change this.

Good luck on that ... It must be soooo frustrating I would imagine ...LOL

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

26. Actually I called it Al Asqa mount, dave.

There's a Mosque there. Not a temple, silly.

[King_David]

27. That's just silly,

Google Temple Mount , it's what almost everybody in the world calls that area.

But good luck with your quest , it will be an uphill climb , but it seems like a very worthwhile and important endeavor for you to spend your time and devote your life to convincing the worlds press and almost everyone else to change the nomenclature.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

29. Sorry dave, it's painfully accurate.

There is no temple there... no matter how hard the hasbara flows.

[King_David]

30. Good luck with your quest

If you google Temple Mount you'll see its used almost ubiquitously to describe the area better known as ... Umm ummm
The Temple Mount ... Ha ha ha

You should start a petition?

Maybe a petition would do the trick?

[azurnoir]

31. 1.6 billion people know it as Haram al-Sharif or the Noble Sanctuary

Star Member King_David (9,989 posts)
30. Good luck with your quest

If you google Temple Mount you'll see its used almost ubiquitously to describe the area better known as ... Umm ummm
The Temple Mount ... Ha ha ha

You should start a petition?

Maybe a petition would do the trick?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/113488624#post30

[King_David]

33. Please don't generalize or stereotype a people

Just like not all Jews think alike not all Muslims are homogeneous in their thought and I'm pretty sure you don't speak for all Muslim people.....

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

32. I don't need luck dave.

BDS.

[azurnoir]

12. well I would guess tis is a teachable moment Abraham is a prophet in Islam

The enclosure is known to Muslims as the Ibrahimi Mosque, as Abraham is a revered prophet of Islam who, according to the Qur'an, built the Kaaba in Mecca with his son Ishmael. After the conquest of the city by Umar, this holy place was "simply taken over from the Jewish tradition" by the new rulers; the Herodian enclosure was converted into a mosque and placed under the control of a waqf. The waqf continues to maintain most of the site, though the Israeli military controls access to the site.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cave_of_the_Patriarchs

[King_David]

34. Your teaching us about the Muslim religion?

There are so many experts in this group on the Jewish people and our religion and the Muslim people and their religion.

[Scootaloo]

3. What does any of that even mean, Oberliner?

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

4. Sour grapes.

So, I'm back, but without answers.

[Scootaloo]

5. don't hold your breath on that, I'm afraid n/t

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

7. Two sets of rules in Israel and Palestine...

[King_David]

8. Maybe to warn them that if they Jews they can not pray on the Temple Mount,

the holiest of Holy Jewish site? Because the religious Muslim council running the place will forbid it.


Probably.

[shira]

11. Terror supporting Mondoweiss with the latest news on Jooz....

Last edited Thu Nov 27, 2014, 07:35 AM - Edit history (2)

They were working hard supporting terrorists just last week....

http://mondoweiss.net/2013/11/cornell-charges-against

There were many more articles on this...

http://mondoweiss.net/2014/11/travesty-despite-israeli
http://mondoweiss.net/2014/11/francisco-activists-conviction
http://mondoweiss.net/2014/10/feminist-scholars-against
http://mondoweiss.net/2013/11/palestinian-activist-immigration

Terror supporting Jew haters masquerading as progressive anti-racists. Like David Duke who views himself as an actual human rights activist. Duke said so in an interview by none other than Mondoweiss in a puff-piece that whitewashed Duke's gutter racism and hatred.



Amazing how Mondoweiss is allowed on a liberal board. Daily Kos and Common Dreams banned Mondoweiss' racist incitement long ago.

[azurnoir]

13. I have a question shira who was Jason Beck?

and why was Mondoweiss writing about Common Dreams banning him?

[shira]

14. No idea, why? n/t

[azurnoir]

15. interesting seems rather odd the Mondoweis would be complimenting Common Dreams on banning him

seeing as how you claim Weiss is himself banned from Common Dreams

Jason Beck (not his real name) BTW was a ProIsrael troll who created wildly antisemitic sock puppets that he could then as a Liberal Zionist correct

Investigative journalist Lance Tapley leaves few stones unturned in his report “The Double Identity of an ‘Anti-Semitic’ Commenter” except the identity of the culprit. “Let’s call the student Jason Beck”, Tapley says, protecting the perpetrator.

Beck, a Harvard graduate now a grad student at a midwestern university, created literally dozens of online personas to support his true objective: poisoning online discourse critical of Israel. So if evidence of anti-Semitism wasn’t there, he’d create it himself.

His posting on Common Dreams illustrates the susceptibility of website comment threads to massive manipulation.

- See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2014/08/hasbara-spewing-semitism#sthash.Zc0mVgvV.dpuf

[shira]

16. OK. And Mondoweiss is still a disgusting hate site. n/t

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

19. Tell us that again the next time you use a slurr against Palestinians.

At times, your unbelievably quotient is stratospheric in nature.

[shira]

20. What "slurrs"? n/t

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

21. Now you are just being disingenuous.

[shira]

22. What slurs? n/t

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

23. ...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=87494

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=87523

[oberliner]

28. Can Jews Travel Safely in the Middle East?

Short answer: Yes, as long you don't make it clear that you are actually Jewish and skirt the question if asked.