50 rabbis call for storming the Aqsa platform

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/news/middle-east/15540-50-rabbis-call-for-storming-the-aqsa-platform

A group of 50 rabbis affiliated with an extremely right-wing Zionist movement have signed a petition calling for the storming of Al-Aqsa the day after tomorrow.

A number of right-wing groups published statements on their websites yesterday evening claiming that this petition comes in the wake of what they described as "terrorist events in Jerusalem and pointing the finger of blame on those who ascend to the Temple Mount [Al-Aqsa]".

The petition signed by the rabbis said: "One of the important ways in which we can demand our right to the Temple Mount is to ascend the Temple Mount. We believe that our presence in the Temple Mount is guided by pure and traditional Jewish teachings and laws and we are proud to uphold these values as we ascend to the mountain of purity."

The most prominent rabbis to sign the petition are Dov Lior, Nahum Rabinovitch and Ram Hacohen. Some of these religious figures have issued religious rulings ordering the killing of Arabs. The petition considered the murder of right-wing Jewish activist Yehuda Glick "a catalyst that will continue to promote Jewish ascension to the Temple Mount".

[King_David]

1. Religious nutcases

Similar to those Muslim leaders that go crazy and violent if a Jew is seen praying on the Temple Mount.


All a bunch of religious Jewish and Muslim nutcases.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

2. Well, dave, I'm sure that there are others who will try and spin this

about forcing access to Al Asqa mount to pray in what is a Muslim Mosque.

[King_David]

4. Spin ? It's all about the Temple Mount and Islamic and Jewish crazies

Religious nutcases .

You never knew this?

It's been very topical lately.... The Muslim religious Fundies get their knickers in a knot every time they see a Jew praying on the Temple Mount and now we see the Jewish Fundies want the Mount stormed.

That's religious fundamentalism for you....

Crazies all around.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

5. It's all about colonization and apartheid.

[sabbat hunter]

6. in this case

it is all about religious fundamentalists. Whether Christian, Jew, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, et al, fundamentalists make the rest look bad.

[King_David]

7. No not really it's all about religious fundamentalists

Nothing more nothing less , no matter how you are trying desperetly to spin this.

Religious crazies fighting over the Temple Mount from something as small as praying there to something as big as storming it .

Crazy Jewish and Islamic fundamentalists.

Nothing more nothing less.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

8. Which is not fundamentally, pardon the pun, exclusive from fundamentalists now is it?

[Shaktimaan]

11. So you're equating

Prayer with colonization and apartheid?

Essentially your argument is that sometimes it's ok to deny equal religious rights depending on the supposed motives of groups demanding said equality.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

12. The Rabbis aren't calling for prayer, silly.

They're calling for conquest. Thanks for trying to equate that with equal religious rights.

It's Al Asqa Mount, shak. A Mosque sits there. The Rabbis have a more than equal if not growing ability to worship elsewhere without provoking another religion.

But isn't that they way of Israeli colonization / apartheid: take what you want then promise to negotiate ta a far latter time...for more in return than they give up?

[Shaktimaan]

13. Really?

Actually this issue is entirely about the right of Jews to pray at the Temple Mount. You just seem to be equating that desire with "conquest."

For example, are you in favor of, or opposed to allowing Jews the right to pray at the Temple Mount?

The Rabbis have a more than equal if not growing ability to worship elsewhere without provoking another religion.

That's not really the point though. You seem to be saying that denying certain religious groups equal access to shared religious sites is acceptable if allowing it would upset anyone. Basically you're arguing in favor of discrimination when equal access proves too "antagonistic."

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

14. Try reading the OP before commenting, shak...

"50 rabbis call for storming the Aqsa platform"

Why can't you leave the Palestinians and Muslims alone?


That's the point.

[Shaktimaan]

16. Yes the op said that.

But it doesn't appear that the rabbis did. Important distinction that.

Regardless I noticed you ignored my question. Care to answer it?

[Shaktimaan]

9. Actually

No one is demanding the right to pray in a mosque. What are you even talking about?

[shira]

3. Is there a more credible source reporting this?

This seems nutty even for nuts like Lior.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

15. It is credible, silly. The only ones trying to discredit this source

Are the bigots and racists who stand behind these rabble-rousing Rabbis.

[Shaktimaan]

17. Is it credible?

Because it doesn't appear that the petition actually called for "storming" anything.

This source also reported that the activist was murdered, which is equally untrue.

It's interesting that you refer to anyone who disagrees with you as a bigot while you are the one so vehemently opposing equal religious access. Traditionally those who reject religious equality are the ones who suffer from bigoted ideas.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

18. Of course it is, silly.

The only ones trying to discredit this source are the bigots and racists who stand behind these rabble-rousing Rabbis.

[Shaktimaan]

19. Of course

You're entitled to your opinion, but I notice you neglected to address the points I raised which prove otherwise.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

20. You don't have a point that hasn't been fabricated to fit your narrative.

[Shaktimaan]

21. Really?

How do you figure?

My points do nothing more than demonstrate that the alleged facts reported by your supposedly trustworthy source are untrue. The headline itself deliberately uses a false quotation designed to support YOUR narrative. It would seem that you are denying facts on the basis that reality supports a Zionist narrative, rendering it unacceptable.

Of course you could easily prove that your site is reliable simply by demonstrating that they accurately reported the facts. Simply link to the petition, showing where it supports "storming" al aqsa. Show us where it references the murder of the activist mentioned in the report.

[Shaktimaan]

10. Really?

Yehuda Glick wasn't actually murdered you know. Which makes this sites statement seem kind of unlikely.

Why exactly are you against allowing Jews the right to pray at the Temple Mount? They're currently already allowed to go there; is it the prayer or their presence that you find so appalling?