Israel/Palestine
Related: About this forumWATCH: 'Son of Hamas' addresses AIPAC conference
Mosab Hassan Yousef, Hamas scion turned Israeli informant, tells pro-Israel policy conference of the journey he made to 'a higher truth.'
AIPAC, the pro-Israel lobby in the United States, hosted a speaker on Sunday that a decade ago most Jews would have been abhorred to meet: Mosab Hassan Yousef, son of Hamas founder Sheikh Hassan Yousef.
The younger Yousef was an informant for the Shin Bet security service from 1997 to 2007 before seeking asylum in the United States. On Tuesday, the conference attendees greeted him with enthusiastic applause.
"Sometimes I try to rationalize what a son of a Hamas leader is doing in a big Jewish event like this. And the only way to see it, I came up with a theory. I think maybe I was in a previous life a very bad Jew," Yousef said, sending the audience into laughter. "Then I was reincarnated in the house of a Hamas leader to work out my karmas."
Yousef explained the atmosphere he grew up in, and the challenge of transforming the attitude that was ingrained in him.
"I grew up believing in the conspiracy theory, believing that Israel, America, the West hate Muslims," he recalled. "They're plotting day and night to destroy Islam, to destroy the Muslim world and keep people in ignorance."
http://www.haaretz.com/video/1.644963
King_David
(14,851 posts)Israeli
(4,151 posts)King_David
(14,851 posts)While it may be interesting, why would you want to derail and hijack this thread?
It was good of you to kick it up twice now though.
Israeli
(4,151 posts)....it has everything to do with this thread . If you cant see that then that is your problem .
Kicked it up once KD , get your facts right for a change .
Now its twice .
King_David
(14,851 posts)Thanks !
My facts are unimpeachable
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)Interesting story. He stopped terrorist attacks so he has my eternal thanks for that.
shaayecanaan
(6,068 posts)after all those years of faithful service. As it was, he was nearly deported back to the West Bank because the US considered him a Hamas supporter:-
He was ultimately assisted by his Shin Bet handler who testified at his hearing on his behalf.
King_David
(14,851 posts)I'm not sure he would of been safe there.
shaayecanaan
(6,068 posts)although its interesting that you consider the US to be safer than Israel.
King_David
(14,851 posts)To get at him in the USA . There are always breaches in the security wall as it can not be air tight.
He also converted to Christianity and may have wanted to be somewhere among many Christian people.
shaayecanaan
(6,068 posts)Israeli
(4,151 posts)King_David
(14,851 posts)For an "Israeli " it's very impressive.
Israeli
(4,151 posts)" nuance for " Pat Robertson's "700 Club" type of Christian Zionist people ......
King_David
(14,851 posts)Are you really an American ?
Seems possible
Response to King_David (Reply #18)
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Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)Israeli
(4,151 posts)Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)Hypocrites are rampant and deception is strong on the I/P topic as well as
the alleged threats coming from Iran. AIPAC has the gall to state they're for two states
but pressed you'll never see an endorsement for a viable state for the Palestinians, nor
an acknowledgement of international law on the settlements...pathological liars, indeed.
http://www.aipac.org/learn/resources/aipac-publications/publication?pubpath=PolicyPolitics/Press/AIPAC%20Statements/2004/07/AIPAC%20Applauds%20Strong%20Bipartisan%20Condemnation%20Of%20ICJ%20Ruling
On edit: I am so taking that photo of Bibi..it is too good to pass up.
King_David
(14,851 posts)LOL
I think I will head to the Gay beach at Malon Hilton today in Tel Aviv as it is 27C here in Israel ...
shaayecanaan
(6,068 posts)maybe everyone here should head on down there for mai tais. i can pick you all up in my rocketship.
King_David
(14,851 posts)Suns down.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)King_David
(14,851 posts)What's your point ?
Was Glorious day on Hilton beach.
And I am pretty confident in hazarding a guess that "Israeli " has never been there, probably doesn't even know where it is.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)King_David
(14,851 posts)Edited my previous post.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)They're unimpeachable...or so he says.
King_David
(14,851 posts)And you looked up that sunset in Tel Aviv is 5.42pm and somehow your thinking that that's a "gotcha" moment?
Seriously?
LOL
Seriously????
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)shaayecanaan
(6,068 posts)so I guess his story checks out.
King_David
(14,851 posts)How dare you?
WTF do you think you are?
Seriously
The Chutzpah of it coming from someone that probably resides in the USA and Claims to be 1. Left Wing 2. Jewish 3.israeli
- and a lot of people don't believe that but I don't see anyone posting signs of the most vile language and pointing a finger at you a fellow DUr.
Seriously WTF do you think you are.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)She could pose the same questions to you since you put it out there first.
King_David
(14,851 posts)Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)King_David
(14,851 posts)Can be judged for what stands here without the "you started this" stamping of feet.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)King_David
(14,851 posts)On Fri Mar 6, 2015, 11:55 AM you sent an alert on the following post:
No KD I'm Israeli ....
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=96715
REASON FOR ALERT
This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.
YOUR COMMENTS
The poster starts off by calling a fellow DUr a "fucking liar" and then confirms it later on questions.
Very unparliamentary no matter how heated the discussion.
JURY RESULTS
A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this alert at Fri Mar 6, 2015, 12:03 PM, and voted 6-1 to HIDE IT.
Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: PA
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: nonsense utter nonsense.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Thank you.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)in fact it's an almost 100% way of making sure of that
King_David
(14,851 posts)Ashamed and embarrassed after one of my posts is hidden , I hope other decent people feel the same way.
Especially a 6:1 vote , there's no doubt with those.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)it was not hidden for the links it contains was it?
King_David
(14,851 posts)Are you making the same claims?
Why do you think I should be worried about a link to some poster on a different website?
What is your accusation?
Your posts are coming very close / borderline and hateful false accusations.
So go ahead and let's see your proof.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)a reminder
35. Can you link up or offer some proof of that?
View profile
Or else I suggest retract your false , ridiculous , groundless allegations and delete this slanderous post about a long time decent member of DU.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=96479
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)King_David
(14,851 posts)Actually go check , there's only 1 , was very close tho and never been banished like some of our IP group members have been multiple times.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)reached a time out, either.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)if that is your intent.
Just let that stuff be. She shouldn't bother you so much. Let it be.
King_David
(14,851 posts)Israeli
(4,151 posts)King_David
(14,851 posts)There's a lot of people here that don't believe you live in Israel .... Who knows they could be right.
Left wing ? Mmmhh without respect for immigrants and minorities such as the Gays I'm not sure.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)You should stop with the unfounded accusations. Just stop.
King_David
(14,851 posts)I guess your forgetting your post that was hidden just yesterday?
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)King_David
(14,851 posts)In the middle eas, Europe , even Australia.
Jewish community in lockdown following Sydney
http://www.timesofisrael.com/jewish-community-in-lockdown-following-sydney-attack/
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)While there are no reports that the Jewish community is being targeted, leaders have taken precautionary measures. Security at Jewish day schools throughout the country will be heightened; all field trips will be canceled. The measures will remain in effect on Tuesday, according to the Community Security Group, which handles security for the Jewish communities of Australia.
The fact that someone has perpetrated an event like this, it has caused a heightened level of vigilance for our community, Steve Lieblich, director of public affairs at the Jewish Community Council of Western Australia told the Jewish News. We are on level 5 of 6 alert levels.
One Jewish institution reportedly issued a code red during which the building was locked down for several hours. That order has since been lifted, Haaretz reports.
http://www.ibtimes.com/jewish-community-australia-under-lockdown-sydney-siege-1757852
King_David
(14,851 posts)Safety conscious USA Jews have no where to travel as Jews are targets , even in Australia.
This is a conversation. Read the thread.
Australian Jewish leaders condemn 'hate bus attack on Jewish students in Sydney
http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/jewish-world-news/1.609514
Jews are targets ....
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)seems you're determined to prove Australia is dangerous for Jews, why
King_David
(14,851 posts)France is another.
Turkey too.
Gaza and a West Bank.
Belgium.
The list is huge.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)so now Australia is as bad as Gaza? I guess drunken teens are everywhere
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)Five teenagers were arrested at 3.30 A.M. local time Thursday, but were too drunk to be interviewed, police confirmed. They were released without charge into their parents custody and were expected to be questioned by police later Thursday, a police spokesman told Haaretz.
He said police were still searching for several other youths believed to have been engaged in the scene, which has been widely condemned inside and outside of the Jewish community.
Police also said they did not believe it to be a targeted attack on the students because they were Jewish.
http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/jewish-world-news/1.609514
King_David
(14,851 posts)---snip----
Australia
August 25, 2014 - Sydney - Anti-Semitic flyers were placed in mailboxes of homes in two Jewish neighborhoods. The flyers read: Wake up Australia, Jews have been kicked out of countries 109 times through history. Could it be that having them in a European country is harmful to the host? They also included an invitation to join Squadron 88, a local white supremacist group.
August 6, 2014 - Sydney - Six underage males boarded a bus transporting a group of Jewish students aged five to twelve years old, shouting "Heil Hitler" and "Kill the Jews" while threatening the young students with violence.
August 4, 2014 - Perth - A visibly Orthodox rabbi and his assistant were assaulted by a group of youths who pounded on their car while yelling "f*** off" and calling them "killers."
August 1, 2014 - Perth - The phrase "Zionist scum" was spray painted on the outside wall of a local Jewish school.
http://www.adl.org/anti-semitism/international/c/global-antisemitism-2014.html
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)That's what you said above
Star Member King_David (11,146 posts)
22. Because Australia is one of many hotbeds of antisemitic incidents
France is another.
Turkey too.
Gaza and a West Bank.
Belgium.
The list is huge.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=96714
King_David
(14,851 posts)Sad but true.
As for the rest of the commentary in your post - it was yours not mine.
See how it works is that if you write comments they yours and only mine if I write them-- see ?
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)There seems to be a contingent that wants to go out of their way to make the anti-apartheid peace group known as BDS synonymous with ISIS.
Israeli
(4,151 posts)Pat Robertson's "700 Club" type of Christian people
http://www.haaretz.com/weekend/weekend-opinions/why-has-mosab-hassan-yousef-the-green-prince-turned-against-his-own-people-1.449205