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William Seger

(10,778 posts)
1. So, what's your Creative Speculation?
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 12:18 PM
Dec 2015

The witness was mistaken? One man got away? Two men got away, and the witness didn't see the woman? Three men got away and the police accidentally shot some other terrorists who were planning an attack?

I bet Alex Jones Boy Detective cracked the case within minutes, huh.

zappaman

(20,606 posts)
2. I think this was posted to show that sometimes the initial reports are often wrong.
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 04:34 PM
Dec 2015

In this craziness of the moment, not all witnesses are correct in their recalling of the incident.
At least I hope that's why it was posted.

nationalize the fed

(2,169 posts)
3. San Bernardino Resident posts AMA at Reddit. Post locked.
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 07:23 PM
Dec 2015

7 December 2015: I am a resident of San Bernardino and am skeptical of the official story of the shooting. AMA.


[–]me_llamo_greg 2 points 1 day ago

What questions do you think need to be answered that you're not satisfied with? What reason do you have to believe there are more people who may have been involved?
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SanBernardinoCitizen 1 day ago

The top questions that need answers:


Why were members of the media allowed in the suspects' residence when potential evidence can be compromised? Why wasn't the suspects' residence heavily guarded in an ongoing investigation?


Has the FBI ruled out the involvement of other persons in this attack other than Farook and his wife? If so, how?


Why are multiple eyewitnesses saying they saw 3 athletic, white men in masks conduct the attack? If the response is "eyewitness accounts are notoriously unreliable," then wouldn't that equally discount any eyewitness accounts identifying Farook and Malik as the shooters?


Why did the high speed chase involve gunfire in San Bernardino residential areas? Is it standard procedure to put residents in danger by returning gun fire or not falling back to prevent gunfire from suspects?


Other than the dead bodies of the suspects in the black SUV is there any direct evidence proving beyond reasonable doubt that Farook and his wife were the masterminds of this attack and acted alone? Other than at the holiday party and then dead in the SUV, is there any testimony identifying Farook and his wife in the course of the shooting and the subsequent police chase? If not, how have authorities definitively concluded that the suspects acted alone or weren't themselves hostages in the attack?

https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/3vtfsi/i_am_a_resident_of_san_bernardino_and_am/?

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So the San Bernardino alleged shooters have multicolor Christmas lights in their backyard
2 hours ago by duckspeak84

My old college roommate lives next to the alleged shooters house in San Bernardino at 53 S Center St, Redlands, CA 92373 . Check out a still form the video:

She was able to film some of the crime scene, and went between the town house units and on a hill she was able to see into the suspect's small backyard. It was decorated with multicolor Christmas lights.

When my friend asked the police if they noticed the Christmas lights they said "nah, we never even filmed in the back". So basically they were just camped out front to get those shots they needed, and not digging too deep into the back.

Does this seem weird to anyone else out there? Check it out for yourself before they take it down. There is also the odd chance that someone went in and is trolling, and hung up the lights, but I doubt this is the case, considering it's all a pretty serious issue.
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/3vz49c/so_the_san_bernardino_alleged_shooters_have/


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dougolat

(716 posts)
4. Yet again, when the details contradict the headlines...
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 05:19 PM
Dec 2015

...the defenders of the corporate media bullhorn leap to it's defense!

"Damn the details, full speed ahead!" works every time. (well, except for the 'crossing the red-line' Syrian gas attacks, but who's counting?)

William Seger

(10,778 posts)
5. The American Spectator agrees with you
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 02:11 AM
Dec 2015

(I won't post a link to that nearly-defunct rightwing cesspool, but here's their take.)

If these questions remain unanswered, it is impossible to believe anything other than the most reasonable explanation for the silence: the progressive agenda of multiculturalism, diversity and political correctness must be preserved, even if truth is the ultimate casualty.


Perhaps there was a third shooter who got away. But if there's no other evidence (yet!), what do you expect the "corporate media bullhorn" to report other than the fact that some witnesses say there was a third shooter? And why do you presuppose that if evidence does turn up, they'll cover it up?

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
6. The problem is that the discrepancies haven't been explained.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 07:58 PM
Dec 2015

I heard the Sally Abdelmageed interview and others replayed and discussed repeatedly that afternoon and then that night heard Bowdich and Burguan say the shooters were a quiet county health inspector from Redlands and his foreign wife and that they killed or injured at least 35 people in four minutes. Maybe so but that's a big change. So what conclusion should we draw? I don't know but I don't see any harm in asking. Democracy isn't served by aiding and abetting corruption.

William Seger

(10,778 posts)
7. I don't see any harm in asking, either
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:48 AM
Dec 2015

... and I think it should be explained. The problem is, conspiracy theorists don't really ask questions except as a rhetorical device, because their beliefs don't really have anything to do with the answers. Since JFK, a generation of conspiracy theorists have grown up thinking that all you have to do is find "anomalies" in the "official story" and you will be hailed as a heroic "researcher" within the cult, so they get nothing but annoyed when it turns out that their questions have reasonable answers.

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