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Fearless

(18,421 posts)
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 11:31 PM Dec 2012

Nate Silver: My friends describe me as ‘sexually gay but ethnically straight’

The statistician and writer, 34, who came out to his parents after spending a year in London studying economics, said in an interview with Out Magazine, which named him Person of the Year 2012:

“For me, I think the most important distinguishing characteristic is that I’m independent-minded,” Silver, 34, tells the magazine. “I’m sure that being gay encouraged the independent-mindedness, but that same independent-mindedness makes me a little bit skeptical of parts of gay culture, I suppose.”

Talking about a series of flagpoles in Chicago, erected as memorials to gay Americans, he said:

“There was one little plaque for Keith Haring, and it was, like, ‘Keith Haring, gay American artist, 1962 to 1981,’ or whatever [actually 1958 to 1990], and I was like, Why isn’t he just an American artist? I don’t want to be Nate Silver, gay statistician, any more than I want to be known as a white, half-Jewish statistician who lives in New York.”

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2012/12/19/nate-silver-my-friends-describe-me-as-sexually-gay-but-ethnically-straight/

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How else to piss of the Republicans... hmm... Hard to top this one..

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Nate Silver: My friends describe me as ‘sexually gay but ethnically straight’ (Original Post) Fearless Dec 2012 OP
I am really digging Mr. Silver Skittles Dec 2012 #1
Uggh - wish I had never read this FreeState Dec 2012 #2
Hmm...I watched the Harting documentary on Netflix LostinRed Dec 2012 #4
Recommended. William769 Dec 2012 #3
Another self-hating gay man. closeupready Dec 2012 #5
I don't think he's self-hating Fearless Dec 2012 #6
Maybe so. closeupready Dec 2012 #7
Perhaps he could, perhaps not. Fearless Dec 2012 #8
Well isn't he lucky to live in a world now where Scruffy Rumbler Dec 2012 #9
That's not really what he said... Fearless Dec 2012 #10

FreeState

(10,572 posts)
2. Uggh - wish I had never read this
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 12:07 AM
Dec 2012

I love Nates work. I really do. However, to me, he comes across as an arrogant ass here. If he has to tell others he's "independent-minded" he's not.

He's skeptical of parts of the gay community? What the fuck does that even mean? Your skeptical of the example of calling a gay artist a gay artist? You don't see the importance there, because your "independent-minded"? Seriously?

Keith Hatring was a gay artist - he produced art that was gay themed in the height of the HIV crisis in in the 1980s. You take away the fact that he was gay, his work loses much of it's meaning, it loses the history and the reasons.

Sorry Nate - your not independent and quite frankly you don't understand art history. Stick to stats.












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LostinRed

(840 posts)
4. Hmm...I watched the Harting documentary on Netflix
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 04:05 AM
Dec 2012

He was much more than just a gay artist. I see Nate's point. No one wants to be defined as just gay that's what we're all working towards to.

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
6. I don't think he's self-hating
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 06:15 PM
Dec 2012

I think what he means to say is that he'd rather be known for his hard work rather than a happenstance of birth. Controversial, yes, nuanced of course, but I don't think it's self-hating. IMHO of course.

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
8. Perhaps he could, perhaps not.
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 06:47 PM
Dec 2012

Never met the man. But, I don't see why there should be a stigma for either potential situation. Had he said, I only want to pass... I'd see it as a much more self-hating statement.

Scruffy Rumbler

(961 posts)
9. Well isn't he lucky to live in a world now where
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 03:45 AM
Dec 2012

he can chose to identify as gay or not and have it be ok. It is interesting living through this time period where we went from no roll models to being proud to call ourselves Gay (insert occupation) to criticizing those that still wish to be 'quaint' and call themselves Gay.

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
10. That's not really what he said...
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 05:10 AM
Dec 2012

More like, he'd prefer that if he's going to be recognized for something that it's the hard work he puts into his chosen career instead of what is his with no effort by birth.

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