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Pab Sungenis

(9,612 posts)
Sat Aug 3, 2013, 11:54 AM Aug 2013

My anti-gay sister in law is transitioning!

Six years ago, a rift formed in my family when, at a party, my sister in law came out against gay marriage and everything gay. She berated my husband and I for preparing to codify our relationship in law, as had sort-of become the case with the passage of New Jersey's Civil Union law.

Ignoring the fact that her mother was a lesbian (who actually defended her when we asked her not to attend our wedding if she was so against it) she berated homosexuality and the "choices" we had made. That was the last time we spoke with her.

We got a letter in the mail this week, half legal notice and half fundraising plea, that she had changed her name legally from "Dara" to "Dante," and soliciting funds to pay for the next phase of her gender reassignment surgery.

While I support her decision wholeheartedly, as it is her decision to make, I cannot help but shake my head in disbelief and confusion.

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My anti-gay sister in law is transitioning! (Original Post) Pab Sungenis Aug 2013 OP
Makes sense to me. johnp3907 Aug 2013 #1
I kind of felt the same. Pab Sungenis Aug 2013 #3
Very sad that he has that much self hatred and that it was directed at you. mucifer Aug 2013 #2
WOW! The nerve! LeftofObama Aug 2013 #4
What nerve? Pab Sungenis Aug 2013 #5
Sorry about the pronoun usage. LeftofObama Aug 2013 #6
Not criticizing your pronoun usage. Pab Sungenis Aug 2013 #7
Wow an extreme example mitchtv Aug 2013 #8
Congratulations on your new brother, Pab. Zorra Aug 2013 #9
So people are kickstarting tonekat Aug 2013 #10
Most trans don't behave that way sgsmith Aug 2013 #11
One of the most confusing cases I've ever read theHandpuppet Aug 2013 #12
Mother in law, not mother. Pab Sungenis Aug 2013 #13

johnp3907

(3,737 posts)
1. Makes sense to me.
Sat Aug 3, 2013, 12:10 PM
Aug 2013

I've always felt that when people lash out at the "others," they're really lashing out at themselves.

 

Pab Sungenis

(9,612 posts)
3. I kind of felt the same.
Sat Aug 3, 2013, 12:13 PM
Aug 2013

I just hope that she is transitioning because he identifies better as a man and not just to put her sexual attraction to other women in a "more acceptable" container. Even though we're linked together, LGB and T are different creatures in many ways and those differences aren't always understood and appreciated.

LeftofObama

(4,243 posts)
4. WOW! The nerve!
Sat Aug 3, 2013, 01:36 PM
Aug 2013

You are a lot more cool and calm about this than I would be. I would tell her to get lost, both in a written reply and to her face.

 

Pab Sungenis

(9,612 posts)
5. What nerve?
Sat Aug 3, 2013, 01:39 PM
Aug 2013

The poor girl has always been confused and frustrated. Now, I hope, he is coming to terms with himself and who he is, and can finally be happy about himself.

Boy, the pronouns can get confusing in the middle of the transition, can't they?

LeftofObama

(4,243 posts)
6. Sorry about the pronoun usage.
Sat Aug 3, 2013, 01:53 PM
Aug 2013

Yes, it can be quite confusing sometimes so I just used the pronoun you used in your last sentence......

"While I support her decision wholeheartedly, as it is her decision to make, I cannot help but shake my head in disbelief and confusion."



I guess the nerve I'm talking about is that he had to have had some inkling that he wasn't comfortable in the body he was in and would rather transition to male all the while berating you for your lifestyle "choice." And then to come along later as if nothing was ever said and have the nerve to ask for a donation to help pay for his transition.

 

Pab Sungenis

(9,612 posts)
7. Not criticizing your pronoun usage.
Sat Aug 3, 2013, 01:54 PM
Aug 2013

I'm having a hard enough time. I still think of him as "she." A habit of 21 years is hard to break.

mitchtv

(17,718 posts)
8. Wow an extreme example
Sat Aug 3, 2013, 02:57 PM
Aug 2013

of anti gay behavior projection, kind of confusing , All I can say is"good luck' to him.It seems to be like homophobic, behavior but different.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
9. Congratulations on your new brother, Pab.
Sun Aug 4, 2013, 09:06 PM
Aug 2013

Hopefully your relationship with him will improve markedly from now on..

tonekat

(1,842 posts)
10. So people are kickstarting
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 08:26 PM
Aug 2013

their surgery now? Damn, I should have tried that.

I have mixed feelings about that method of raising funds. I took a chunk out of my retirement, so I'll probably die at my desk. But that's how much I wanted it.

 

sgsmith

(398 posts)
11. Most trans don't behave that way
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 09:39 PM
Aug 2013

I would try to find out a few items as discretely as you can. Is he following the Standards of Care as promulgated by WPATH? Yes, the psychology stuff can be daunting, but the SOC seems to be a good tool to be used in transitioning.

Is he using Testosterone? Under the care of a medical provider? T is a controlled medication, and should be prescribed by a medical provider. Street drugs may not be the best way to go.

http://www.wpath.org/publications_standards.cfm

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
12. One of the most confusing cases I've ever read
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 12:48 AM
Aug 2013

Did Dara harbor some deep-seated resentment against your mother? I can't imagine your mother didn't feel hurt when her daughter railed against gays and I'm surprised your Mom defended her at your expense.

 

Pab Sungenis

(9,612 posts)
13. Mother in law, not mother.
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 01:09 AM
Aug 2013

But the case is confusing to say the least. I just hope he's more comfortable with himself now.

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