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Related: About this forumColorado College Job Application Features The Word ‘Queer’
The word queer appears in the voluntary gender section responses of the applications and the private school in Colorado Springs stands by the wording.
Im a little skeptical of what that could present to potential employees, Colorado Collage Quinn Webb said.
The options include to not disclose, male, female, transgender or queer. The queer option is stirring up some controversy. Rex Fuller with Denvers Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, And Transgender (LGBT) Community Center weighed in.
Its true that for many years lots of people were called queer and it was a derogatory term and they find it offensive, but theres definitely a younger generation that is trying to reform the term and give it new meaning, Fuller said.
Thats the stance Colorado College is taking. They say the term was added to be more inclusive. Students with the Office of Minority and International Students agree. Student Marley Jamason says the term queer is changing.
http://denver.cbslocal.com/2013/11/08/colorado-college-job-application-features-the-word-queer/
Smarmie Doofus
(14,498 posts)>>>As an optional part of our employment application, Colorado College includes the terms male, female, transgender and queer for gender. >>>>>
The following sentence is also confusing:
>>>>>The options include to not disclose, male, female, transgender or queer.>>>>>
Is there supposed to be quotes around to "not disclose"?
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)is being presented as one of the choices it is confusing.
Here is another article
Colorado College in Colorado Springs, Colorado has come under fire due to its use of the word "queer" on a job application for a position recently posted on the college's website.
When asked to fill out the section "Voluntary Demographic Data" the application lists five options under "Gender": Not disclosed, Male, Female, Transgender or Queer. John Kichi, a gay Pennsylvania man, brought attention to the college's use of the word after applying for the position of Database Specialist at the school.
As The Denver Post reports, Kichi was none too pleased with the college's use of the term: "I couldn't believe it. I thought I was going to have a stroke," Kichi said. "It's totally from the Dark Ages...If them including it on applications isn't against the law, it should be." However, Colorado College views the matter differently, believing that offering "Queer" as an option when it comes to gender identity is actually an inclusive move that should appeal to the LGBT community:
As far as Colorado College is concerned, using the term on applications is "intended to represent the college's commitment to and acknowledgment of diversity related to gender," according to a statement from the school. "Colorado College is very much committed to diversity, and is very open about sexual orientation."
The school's office of Minority and International Students uses the following definition of queer in its training: "An umbrella term describing people who have a non-normative gender identity, sexual orientation, or sexual anatomyincludes lesbians, gay men, bisexual people, asexual people, transgender people, intersex people, etc."
While the school acknowledges that the term is used as a slur by some, it adds: "Others have reclaimed it and are comfortable using it to describe themselves."
http://www.towleroad.com/2013/11/colorado-college-defends-use-of-queer-on-job-application.html
They do seem to use gender and sexual orientation interchangeably.
dballance
(5,756 posts)Those options for that question make no sense at all to me. If one is a transgender then they're trans. They are either male or female at present despite the gender with which they were born. If one is a homosexual then one is still either physically male or female. If one is questioning or bi-sexual one is still distinctly male or female.
Am I missing something?
Creideiki
(2,567 posts)So, I guess you could throw in queer.
And there are people now identifying as neither male nor female gender or a combination. /crotchety-voice "Kids these days..." /crotchety-voice
Behind the Aegis
(53,956 posts)Either they are trying to overreach or they are just flat out stupid.
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)Fearless
(18,421 posts)Sounds more like people trying to be inclusive, which is an admirable thing, but not quite understanding. So meet them were they are, fill in the content knowledge gap they have, and help them learn. It can either be a teaching moment or a shunning moment. I'd opt for teaching.
One_Life_To_Give
(6,036 posts)this is really a good thing. It's also easy to see how this can upset people who are not accustomed to being around people who don't find either binary nor trans fit their gender. Sorry it makes some of you uncomfortable. But those of us who are both and/or neither find this welcome.
MadrasT
(7,237 posts)But I understand that some people hear "queer" and think it means "nasty slur about gay person".
I think that use of the word "queer" in the context of gender (and not sexual orientation) is unfamiliar to many people.
In other words, "queer" in not yet universally understood to mean "I reject your stupid binary gender classification system".
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)Thanks for the education.
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)"My preferred pronouns are the singular they (they/them/their/theirs)," Fleischman wrote in one online posting. "If you find that weird, you can use whatever pronouns you want for me, but I prefer those ones."
Thanks for helping clarify this.
MadrasT
(7,237 posts)The effort to provide anything beyond the standard Male-or-Female choice seems encouraging, but they really should have done some more research before they posted gender ID categories that don't really make sense and worse, use loaded terms that are not universally understood.