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Thu Apr 3, 2014, 08:27 PM

The Pope’s Tone Softens — But The Vatican Is Still Fighting LGBT Rights Around The World

http://www.buzzfeed.com/lesterfeder/despite-popes-softening-tone-the-vatican-remains-a-key-oppon

NEW YORK — Pope Francis’ softening tone on LGBT issues does not appear to have been matched by a meaningful shift in policy in the realm of international diplomacy.

In two recent confrontations at United Nations headquarters in New York, the Vatican — a “permanent observer” with the almost all the same right that states have to participate in debates and closed negotiations — has held a hard line in fighting to preserve a narrow definition of the word “family” in international law. (It is one of only two entities with this status; the other is Palestine.)

“I cannot see a change [in Holy See diplomacy] that has trickled down” since Francis became pope, said one diplomat from a country that supports LGBT rights who asked to speak anonymously to discuss closed negotiations.

LGBT activists and supportive diplomats have been squaring off against Vatican diplomats at the U.N. as long as LGBT rights under international law have been at issue. And under Francis, the Holy See continues to play its longstanding role: inspiring opposition to LGBT rights proposals, crafting strategy, and articulating principles of international law to justify their exclusion.

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Reply The Pope’s Tone Softens — But The Vatican Is Still Fighting LGBT Rights Around The World (Original post)
MNBrewer Apr 2014 OP
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Bluenorthwest Apr 2014 #2
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Response to MNBrewer (Original post)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 08:34 PM

1. Tone schmone. The Roman Catholic position on all things gay isn't going to change.

 

At least not in this Pope's lifetime.

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Thu Apr 3, 2014, 08:39 PM

2. The Pope's tone is silence about the evil in Uganda where he leads the largest religion

 

His years of horrific gay baiting on the world stage are bearing horrific fruit.

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Thu Apr 3, 2014, 08:50 PM

3. Francis reaffirms "traditional" marriage

http://www.religiondispatches.org/dispatches/petermontgomery/7752/anti_gay_celebration_in_uganda__weddings_in_england___francis_effect__at_the_vatican/

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Pope Francis himself this week declared that traditional marriage reflects the image of God. Excerpts from Josephine McKenna of the Religion News Service:

“When a man and a woman celebrate the sacrament of marriage, God is reflected in them,” the pontiff told an estimated 45,000 pilgrims who gathered in St. Peter’s Square.

“As ‘one flesh’, they become living icons of God’s love in our world, building up the Church in unity and fidelity,” he said. “The image of God is the married couple — not just the man, not just the woman, but both.”

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Response to MNBrewer (Original post)

Fri Apr 4, 2014, 07:51 AM

4. But... magazine covers!

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