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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 12:39 PM Apr 2014

Brittney Griner Loves Baylor University, But Its Anti-Gay Policies Hurt Her and the School

By Evin Demirel

Brittney Griner was a high-school basketball player who'd already been out for two years when she first told her soon-to-be college coach she was gay. She wondered if Kim Mulkey, head coach of the Lady Bears of Baptist-affiliated Baylor University, would mind she was lesbian.

“Big Girl, I don't care what you are,” Griner recalls Mulkey saying in her new memoir, In My Skin. “You can be black, white, blue, purple, whatever. As long as you come here and do what you need to do and hoop, I don't care."

For the most part, Griner did what she needed to do in her four years at Baylor. The Houston native left as the all-time NCAA leader in blocked shots, a three-time AP All-American, and two-time national player of the year. She and fellow Texan Odyssey Sims led Baylor to the 2012 national title after a 40-and-0 season. This record is all the more astounding because it comes during a century when Connecticut has won eight of 15 national titles.

Griner was simply the most dominant force the women's college game has ever seen. Now she’s on the cusp of breaking out in her second year of WNBA play. Most colleges would naturally tout their ties to Griner, but Baylor is not most colleges. The Waco, Texas-based university has one of the few powerhouse Division I athletic departments that officially discourages homosexuality. Baylor’s student handbook denounces all forms of sexuality outside of heterosexual marriage—including pre-marital straight sex and homosexuality of any kind. Now the fact that Baylor produced one of America’s most famous (and now outspoken) LGBTQ athletes imperils its future as a women’s basketball juggernaut.

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Brittney Griner Loves Baylor University, But Its Anti-Gay Policies Hurt Her and the School (Original Post) DonViejo Apr 2014 OP
But of course the question I've always had.... theHandpuppet Apr 2014 #1
I wonder what other scholarship offers she received? Ilsa Apr 2014 #2
Like kids don't go away to college? theHandpuppet Apr 2014 #3
Maybe if a gay teen has the support of family, Ilsa Apr 2014 #4
For a gay teen in that much need of a family's support... theHandpuppet Apr 2014 #5
There is no way of knowing what she was told about Baylor Ilsa Apr 2014 #6
Then she accepted the trade-off theHandpuppet Apr 2014 #7
Mulkey, the coach, and the biggest ahole in the women's game, got joeybee12 Apr 2014 #8

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
1. But of course the question I've always had....
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 12:54 PM
Apr 2014

Why Baylor, of all places? I know that women's basketball programs are notoriously homophobic (I knew a gay player at Penn State and I wouldn't have gone there had someone offered me a truckload of money) but why choose one specifically geared towards RW bigots, like Baylor?

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
2. I wonder what other scholarship offers she received?
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 02:00 PM
Apr 2014

Maybe they were in places too far from her sources of emotional support.

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
3. Like kids don't go away to college?
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 08:44 PM
Apr 2014

Sorry, can't relate to that unless there was some situation in her immediate family that necessitated her being close to home.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
4. Maybe if a gay teen has the support of family,
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 09:55 PM
Apr 2014

She might not want to be too far from them. Eighteen is still a young difficult age.

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
5. For a gay teen in that much need of a family's support...
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 08:13 AM
Apr 2014

... I would think the last thing she needs is to attend a conservative, Baptist university. I was a gay teen myself once and went away to college at 17. I was a poor kid from a small hillbilly town, didn't drive, had to take a room in a boarding house, knew absolutely no one where I was going -- and couldn't wait to see what the world was truly about! I'm sure Griner, the Houston native, could have had her choice of scholarships. So to hear her complain now about Baylor is a bit odd. It's like someone accepting a scholarship to Liberty University and then acting surprised and insulted when the institution simply proves what they've been all along -- a conservative, religious university.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
6. There is no way of knowing what she was told about Baylor
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 02:59 PM
Apr 2014

before accepting their scholarship unless she tells us. As conservative as we believe they are, I've heard alumni refer to their religion professors as "heretics." Maybe she was told that they were a "liberal" private baptist university. Culture at a university like this can ebb and flow over the years in either direction depending on leadership, the student body, and the board of regents.

Maybe she wanted to stay closer to Houston so that she was only a couple of hours away by car. Maybe she had a girlfriend near Waco and that's why she went there.

She said she was bullied a lot as a child. Maybe family support was more important to her than it was to you. Not everyone wants to leave home at 18. I did a year+ at a local college before going to university, and I know many others who did the same.

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
7. Then she accepted the trade-off
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 03:10 PM
Apr 2014

If the scenario you propose is true, then she accepted the trade-off and it's a bit odd to hear her complain about it now. It's not as if Baylor's reputation is a huge secret, especially to someone from Texas.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
8. Mulkey, the coach, and the biggest ahole in the women's game, got
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 06:24 PM
Apr 2014

nabbed for recruiting violations in her efforts to get Griner...the penalty was a slap on the wrist, basically, and far too lenient, but the point is Mulkey really went after her, and Britney was a kid, and she probably figured, if the Coach is so accepting (which the asshole Mulkey is not, but that's another story), she probably figured the students and school would be...she was young, she didn't know any better.

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