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truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 05:30 PM Dec 2013

Journal study indicates the same thing that vaccine critics have been saying for

nearly a decade or more - The Whooping cough vaccine allows for transmission of whooping cough! (It is also though to be one of the more poorly designed, and more contaminated with viral and bacterial debris than other vaccines.)

NY Times article on Journal study:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/26/health/study-finds-vaccinated-baboons-can-still-carry-whooping-cough.html?_r=0

Whooping Cough Study May Offer Clue on Surge
By SABRINA TAVERNISE
Published: November 25, 2013



Baboons vaccinated against whooping cough could still carry the illness in their throats and spread it, research published in a science journal on Monday has found. The surprising new finding has not been replicated in people, but scientists say it may provide an important clue to a puzzling spike in the incidence of whooping cough across the country, which reached a 50-year high last year.


Matthew Ryan Williams for The New York Times

An older vaccine with longer-lasting protection was found to have side effects.
The whooping cough vaccines now in use were introduced in the 1990s after an older version, which offered longer-lasting protection, was found to have side effects. But over the years, scientists have determined that the new vaccines began to lose effectiveness after about five years, a significant problem that many researchers believe has contributed to the significant rise in whooping cough cases.

The new study, published on Monday in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, offers another explanation. Using baboons, the researchers found that recently vaccinated animals continued to carry the infection in their throats. Even though those baboons did not get sick from it, they spread the infection to others that were not vaccinated.



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Journal study indicates the same thing that vaccine critics have been saying for (Original Post) truedelphi Dec 2013 OP
Expect big pharma's dutiful hatchet men (and women) here to denounce this science as... well, villager Dec 2013 #1
Don't forget the flu vaccine! postulater Dec 2013 #2
Very good point. truedelphi Dec 2013 #3
Make sure you take your homeopathy, too. longship Dec 2013 #4
Aromatherapy works for me. PADemD Dec 2013 #5
And make sure your kiddies get their vaccines. longship Dec 2013 #6
They and I already have. PADemD Dec 2013 #7
More reason to be sure your children are properly MineralMan Dec 2013 #8
 

villager

(26,001 posts)
1. Expect big pharma's dutiful hatchet men (and women) here to denounce this science as... well,
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 05:53 PM
Dec 2013

...not science.

Not the approved bottom-line kind, ya see...

postulater

(5,075 posts)
2. Don't forget the flu vaccine!
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 06:03 PM
Dec 2013

Influenza vaccination and risk of hospitalization among adults with laboratory confirmed influenza illness

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X13015946


Conclusions
Influenza vaccination did not reduce the risk of subsequent hospital admission among patients with vaccine failure. These findings do not support the hypothesis that vaccination mitigates influenza illness severity.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
3. Very good point.
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 07:51 PM
Dec 2013

But not sure I have taken enough vitamins today to handle the onslaught expected in "attacking" just one series of vaccines.

longship

(40,416 posts)
6. And make sure your kiddies get their vaccines.
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 12:04 AM
Dec 2013

And I love Vapo-Rub. But Pertussus and Flu are nothing to mess around with.

The operative words in this OP come right at the end of the post.

The new study, published on Monday in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, offers another explanation. Using baboons, the researchers found that recently vaccinated animals continued to carry the infection in their throats. Even though those baboons did not get sick from it, they spread the infection to others that were not vaccinated.


Make sure you get your vaccines.


PADemD

(4,482 posts)
7. They and I already have.
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 05:09 AM
Dec 2013

I'm old enough to remember a classmate's family being quarantined for polio.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
8. More reason to be sure your children are properly
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 11:07 AM
Dec 2013

vaccinated. Whooping cough (pertussis) is nothing any parents want their child to suffer. Vaccination works. People should take advantage of it.

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