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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-24142695Schoolboys should be given the HPV vaccine to help protect them from some cancers, according to public and sexual health bodies.
Human papillomavirus (HPV) is linked to a range of cancers and a vaccine is already given to girls in the UK to prevent cervical cancer.
The Faculty of Public Health and the British Association for Sexual Health and HIV said boys should be vaccinated.
The Department of Health said there was no plan to extend the programme.
HuckleB
(35,773 posts)Cheers!
inch4progress
(270 posts) If the HPV vaccine, however, were proven to prevent cervical cancer, that would be something else, Beller continued. But it hasnt. The US Food and Drug Administration checks for safety of the vaccine, but (does not check) for efficacy. There is no evidence that the vaccine protects against cervical cancer, only (that it) counters the virus itself. No decrease in invasive cervical cancer... in the vaccinated population has been documented so far. Australia was the first country to implement a school based mass vaccination program with Gardasil in April 2007. The World Health Organization in 2009 recommended the use of HPV vaccines for primary prevention of cervical cancer. But there is no evidence that prophylactic (preventative) vaccination against HPV types 16 and 18 reduces the incidence of cervical cancer (1).
Health Ministry officials (in Israel) continue to consider canceling plans to administer the HPV vaccine, following studies suggesting vaccine-linked autoimmune conditions and other adverse effects (1).
We wonder why the CDC and FDA are pushing Gardasil so strongly when health ministries in other countries are expressing concern. It seems that experts around the world, from Japan to Israel to Italy are re-evaluating the safety record of the HPV vaccine, while American health officials prefer to ignore it. Greg Bennett, CBCD
[link:http://www.digitaljournal.com/pr/1481510|
HuckleB
(35,773 posts)Gardasil Protects Against More HPV Types, New Study
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/83147.php
New study shows HPV vaccine helping lower HPV infection rates in teen girls
http://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2013/p0619-hpv-vaccinations.html
inch4progress
(270 posts)and a multitude of complications from receiving the vaccination.
Japan
It is necessary to gather information immediately to accurately grasp how often (the side effects) are occurring, said Mariko Momoi, who chairs the panel at the Health, Labor and Welfare Ministry that decided to suspend the recommendation. Momoi is vice president of the International University of Health and Welfare.
Mika Matsufuji, 46, who represents an association of cervical cancer vaccination victims parents, said the health panels decision was a big step forward. Her daughter, who was vaccinated with Cervarix in 2011, lost the ability to walk and is now in a wheelchair, she said.
The group is calling for the vaccinations to be halted.
France and UK.
In actuality, the French Committee on Immunization Practices (CTV) and the High Council of Public Health (HCSP) say the vaccines impact on the incidence and mortality of cervical cancer will only become apparent in the long term, in 15 to 20 years.
The American Chronicle reports that as a result of the French decision and ban of Gardasil ads, similar advertising for Gardasil and the GlaxoSmithKline (GSK) manufactured HPV vaccination, Cervarix, have been removed in the UK. In particular, the UKs Advertising Standards Authority cited GlaxoSmithKline for making claims that the Cervarix vaccine would protect young women indefinitely against cervical cancer, using the slogan Armed for Life. The agency instructed the manufacturer to change the ad to clarify the language. Eventually, the local Primary Care Trust decided to remove the advertisements altogether.
I have studied virology and immunology and AM QUITE SURE that the logic is undeniable, however, the approval process and motivation for profit both promote corruption within the industry.
Health care, especially vaccination technology, should not be under the control of any private corporation. It is a necessity to man, and an issue of national security, to guarantee that the citizenry has access to SAFE AND PROVEN therapies whose development is not hindered by a motivation for QUICK PROFIT.
The revolving door between the fda and industry has to STOP.
Prior to being the Supreme Court Judge who put GW Bush in office,Clarence Thomas was Monsanto's lawyer.
The U.S. Secretary of Agriculture (Anne Veneman) was on the Board of Directors of Monsanto's Calgene Corporation.
The Secretary of Defense (Donald Rumsfeld) was on the Board of Directors of Monsanto's Searle pharmaceuticals.
The U.S. Secretary of Health, Tommy Thompson, received $50,000 in donations from Monsanto during his winning campaign for Wisconsin's governor.
The two congressmen receiving the most donations from Monsanto during the last election were Larry Combest (Chairman of the House Agricultural Committee) and Attorney General John Ashcroft. (Source: Dairy Education Board)
Michael R Taylor, our Deputy Commissioner for Foods at the United States FDA, was a Monsanto VP!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HuckleB
(35,773 posts)Pharmaceutical advertising should be banned.
You seem to be all over the place, but you're not offering anything that actually changes the consensus of the science on the vaccine as safe and effective.
inch4progress
(270 posts)connected with this vaccine, and others marketed by these same corporations.
Blame the makers for that.
Anecdote? Eh, When a doctor reports complications of any FDA approved treatment its always referred to as anecdotal evidence. I'm not getting into a semantic fight with you.
Your basically calling the victims and doctors reporting these complications liars. If they are lying why DID THE GOVERNMENT NEED TO GIVE VACCINE MAKERS BLANKET IMMUNITY FROM PROSECUTION? Why is the government PAYING THE VICTIMS WITH MY TAX DOLLARS?
Also, since most of the research is done by universities RECEIVING FEDERAL GRANTS why doesn't the government own the rights to these vaccines?
Yea the last bit was all over the place, but a very good point!
HuckleB
(35,773 posts)Just multiple conspiracy theories.
http://shotofprevention.com/2013/08/20/why-some-parents-are-refusing-hpv-vaccine-for-their-children/
NickB79
(19,236 posts)Dude, did you read that VAERS report about Hulkism? It will blow your mind!
http://momswhovax.blogspot.com/2011/10/incredible-hulk-vaccine-side-effect-or.html
inch4progress
(270 posts)Further, according to the vaccine manufacturer product information insert, Gardasil not been evaluated for carcinogenicity or impairment of fertility. (2007 [227] p1986 )
In fact, Merck studied the Gardasil vaccine in fewer than 1,200 girls under 16 prior to it being released to the market under a fast-tracked road to licensure. To date, most of the serious side effects, including deaths, that occurred during the pre-licensure clinical trials and post marketing surveillance have been written off as a coincidence by Merck researchers and government health officials.
Neurologist Dr. Ian Sutton reported negative neurological side effects from Gardasil. He reported five cases of multiple sclerosis-like symptoms emerging shortly after women received the Gardasil vaccine, noting:
We report five patients who presented with multifocal or atypical demyelinating syndromes within 21 days of immunization with the quadrivalent human papilloma virus (HPV) vaccine, Gardasil. Although the target population for vaccination, young females, has an inherently high risk for MS, the temporal association with demyelinating events in these cases may be explained by the potent immuno-stimulatory properties of HPV virus-like particles which comprise the vaccine.
From its inception, the use of HPV (human papillomavirus) vaccines for sexually transmitted diseases has been hotly disputed. According to the Annals of Medicine: At present there are no significant data showing that either Gardasil or Cervarix (GlaxoSmithKline) can prevent any type of cervical cancer since the testing period employed was too short to evaluate long-term benefits of HPV vaccination.
Read more: http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/stress-and-health-dr-lind/2013/apr/10/us-court-pays-6-million-gardasil-victims/#ixzz2g9sD80Wg
womanofthehills
(8,703 posts)Girls with very serious side effects after Gardasil shots - very sad. Clips from US news programs.
Gardasil is a Maine Issue: https://www.facebook.com/GardasilAwareness
xchrom
(108,903 posts)Gardasil vaccine effective on genital warts in men, FDA says
Merck & Co.'s blockbuster vaccine Gardasil, which is used to prevent cervical cancer in women, also stops viruses that cause genital warts in men, the Food and Drug Administration said.
In documents posted online, the FDA said the vaccine prevented genital warts in males 90 percent of the time.
The vaccine works by blocking the two strains of the human papilloma virus, or HPV, which causes irregular growths and rare types of cancer in male genitals.
Merck has asked the FDA to approve Gardasil for boys and men ages 9 to 26.
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-06-19/lifestyle/sns-rt-us-usa-cancer-hpvbre95i1aw-20130619_1_hpv-infections-hpv-virus-cervarix
Cervical cancer vaccines cut rates of HPV infections: U.S.
CHICAGO (Reuters) - The U.S. introduction of a vaccine to prevent cervical cancer in 2006 has reduced infections with the human papillomavirus or HPV - the sexually transmitted virus that causes the disease - by more than half among girls and young women, U.S. health officials said on Wednesday.
The results were better than expected and may even suggest that unvaccinated individuals are benefiting because of a drop in the number of infections circulating, the team reported in the Journal of Infectious Diseases.
"This report shows that HPV works well, and the report should be a wake-up call to our nation to protect the next generation by increasing HPV vaccination rates," Dr Thomas Frieden, director of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said in a statement.
Frieden said only a third of U.S. girls aged 13-17 have been fully vaccinated with HPV vaccines, which include Merck's Gardasil and GlaxoSmithKline's Cervarix.
http://www.care2.com/greenliving/its-official-the-hpv-vaccine-is-making-a-difference.html
***SNIP
Some background
In late 2006, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) recommended that all females ages 11-12 be vaccinated against HPV, with catch-up vaccines for those ages 13-26. The vaccine is given as three shots within the span of a year. The new study, conducted by the CDC, looks at the types of HPV that women in the U.S. had in 2003-2006 versus 2007-2010before versus after the HPV vaccine, in other words.
The results
If the vaccine is working, there should be fewer young women with HPV strains 16, 18, 11, and 6 (the ones the vaccine protects against) and no changes in terms of other strains of HPV (there are more than 40 types of HPV in total!) And thats exactly what the study found.
Among young women ages 14-19, there was an overall decrease of 56% in the four HPV strains the vaccine protects againsteven though only 34% of those women actually got at least one dose of the vaccine. There was no change in the number of young women who had other strains of HPV.
Among older women (none of whom would have gotten the vaccine), there were no changes in the rate of HPV. What about those who were in the 13-26 age range when the CDC made their recommendation? Only 18% of 20- to 24-year-old women in the study got at least one dose of the vaccine and only 9% got all three dosestoo few to show an overall change in the rate of HPV infection in that group.
What does it all mean?
The exciting news: The HPV vaccine works and the women who have been protected by it are less likely to have to deal with genital warts or cervical cancer later in their lives.
NickB79
(19,236 posts)The National Coalition of Organized Women.
Their track record on vaccinations has been shitty, at best: http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2012/11/28/h1n1-vaccine-and-miscarriages-more-antivaccine-fear-mongering-about-flu-vaccines/
BethMomDem
(70 posts)Rumsfeld is laughing all the way to the bank.
HuckleB
(35,773 posts)Please don't work to harm your fellow humans. Thank you.
BethMomDem
(70 posts)The oneS harming humans are the vax makers who refuse to admit that adjuvants and toxic preservatives are completely unecessary for the effectiveness of vaccines, BUT THEY SURE DO MAKE PEOPLE SICK REQUIRING REALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLY EXPENSIVE DRUGS THAT ARE MADE BY THE SAME COMPANIES(
It's simple logic. If you want to maintain profit as a drug or vax maker the last thing you would do is cure or treat anything. No profit in that, however, there is tons of profit in making people sick.
Sad. Most of these same groups invest heavily in McDonals and other disease causing fast food chains, processed foods, and sugar laden obesity causing junk food
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/sweet-misery-a-poisoned-world/
Donald Rumsfeld has made a killing out of bird flu. The US Defence Secretary has made more than $5m (£2.9m) in capital gains from selling shares in the biotechnology firm that discovered and developed Tamiflu, the drug being bought in massive amounts by Governments to treat a possible human pandemic of the disease.
Rumsfeld used to be on the board of Gilead Sciences, the company that makes the drug.
Mr Rumsfeld sold some of his Gilead shares in 2004 reaping - according to the financial disclosure report he is required to make each year - capital gains of more than $5m. The report showed that he still had up to $25m-worth of shares at the end of 2004, and at least one analyst believes his stake has grown well beyond that figure.
...The 2005 report showed that, in all, he owned shares worth up to $95.9m, from which he got an income of up to $13m, owned land worth up to $17m, and made $1m from renting it out.
The Pentagon issued a statement to the Independent defending Rumsfeld's holdings:
"Secretary Rumsfeld has no relationship with Gilead Sciences, Inc beyond his investments in the company. When he became Secretary of Defence in January 2001, divestiture of his investment in Gilead was not required by the Senate Armed Services Committee, the Office of Government Ethics or the Department of Defence Standards of Conduct Office.
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2006/03/12/041/43370/otherpolitics/Rumsfeld-Earns-5-Million-On-Bird-Flu-Vaccine-Stock-Sale
HuckleB
(35,773 posts)The anti-vaccine movement is one of the most ridiculous, fiction-based movements in history.
It is ugly, and it causes harm. The science is good, and it's clear. Vaccines are safe and effective.
Again, please stop pushing fictions that only harm other human beings. It's very, very wrong.
BethMomDem
(70 posts)Toxic adjuvants and preservatives aren't required to make effective vaccines. They are however required if the corporations intention is to make people sick so that they require overpriced drugs.
Again, please stop pushing fictions that only harm other human beings. It's very, very wrong.
The science is clear. Toxic adjuvant ingredients have been shown to be extremely unnecessary and disease causing in multiple test, studies and real life situations.
ALUMINUM IS A WELL KNOW, REPEATEDLY PROVEN NEUROLOGICAL TOXIN. IT HAS NO PLACE IN A VACCINE OR MEDICATION. ITS INCLUSION IN LIFE SAVING VACCINES COULD BE CONSIDERED A CRIMINAL ACTIVITY IMHO.
COOKING ON ALUMINUM, WHICH ONLY ADDS NEGLIGIBLE AMOUNTS TO FOOD, HAS BEEN SHOWN TO CAUSE NEUROLOGICAL DAMAGE. WHY ADD IT TO VACCINES?
Gulf War illness (GWI) affects a significant percentage of veterans of the 1991 conflict, but its origin remains unknown. Associated with some cases of GWI are increased incidences of amyotrophic lateral sclerosis and other neurological disorders. Whereas many environmental factors have been linked to GWI, the role of the anthrax vaccine has come under increasing scrutiny. Among the vaccine's potentially toxic components are the adjuvants aluminum hydroxide and squalene. To examine whether these compounds might contribute to neuronal deficits associated with GWI, an animal model for examining the potential neurological impact of aluminum hydroxide, squalene, or aluminum hydroxide combined with squalene was developed. Young, male colony CD-1 mice were injected with the adjuvants at doses equivalent to those given to US military service personnel. All mice were subjected to a battery of motor and cognitive-behavioral tests over a 6-mo period postinjections. Following sacrifice, central nervous system tissues were examined using immunohistochemistry for evidence of inflammation and cell death. Behavioral testing showed motor deficits in the aluminum treatment group that expressed as a progressive decrease in strength measured by the wire-mesh hang test (final deficit at 24 wk; about 50%). Significant cognitive deficits in water-maze learning were observed in the combined aluminum and squalene group (4.3 errors per trial) compared with the controls (0.2 errors per trial) after 20 wk. Apoptotic neurons were identified in aluminum-injected animals that showed significantly increased activated caspase-3 labeling in lumbar spinal cord (255%) and primary motor cortex (192%) compared with the controls. Aluminum-treated groups also showed significant motor neuron loss (35%) and increased numbers of astrocytes (350%) in the lumbar spinal cord. The findings suggest a possible role for the aluminum adjuvant in some neurological features associated with GWI and possibly an additional role for the combination of adjuvants.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17114826
Abstract
Once biologically available aluminum bypasses gastrointestinal and blood-brain barriers, this environmentally-abundant neurotoxin has an exceedingly high affinity for the large pyramidal neurons of the human brain hippocampus. This same anatomical region of the brain is also targeted by the earliest evidence of Alzheimer's disease (AD) neuropathology. The mechanism for the selective targeting and transport of aluminum into the hippocampus of the human brain is not well understood. In an effort to improve our understanding of a pathological aluminum entry system into the brain, this study examined the aluminum content of 8 arteries that supply blood to the hippocampus, including the aorta and several cerebral arteries. In contrast to age-matched controls, in AD patients we found a gradient of increasing aluminum concentration from the aorta to the posterior cerebral artery that supplies blood to the hippocampus. Primary cultures of human brain endothelial cells were found to have an extremely high affinity for aluminum when compared to other types of brain cells. Together, these results suggest for the first time that endothelial cells that line the cerebral vasculature may have biochemical attributes conducive to binding and targeting aluminum to selective anatomical regions of the brain, such as the hippocampus, with potential downstream pro-inflammatory and pathogenic consequences.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23764827
Abstract
To clarify whether long-term oral ingestion of aluminum (Al) can increase tau aggregation in mammals, we examined the effects of oral Al administration on tau accumulation, apoptosis in the central nervous system (CNS) and motor function using tau transgenic (Tg) mice that show very slowly progressive tau accumulation. Al-treated tau Tg mice had almost twice as many tau-positive inclusions in the spinal cord as tau Tg mice without Al treatment at 12 months of age, a difference that reached statistical significance, and the development of pretangle-like tau aggregates in the brain was also significantly advanced from 9 months. Al exposure did not induce any tau pathology in wild-type (WT) mice. Apoptosis was observed in the hippocampus in Al-treated tau Tg mice, but was virtually absent in the other experimental groups. Motor function as assessed by the tail suspension test was most severely impaired in Al-treated tau Tg mice. Given our results, chronic oral ingestion of Al may more strongly promote tau aggregation, apoptosis and neurological dysfunction if individuals already had a pathological process causing tau aggregation. These findings may also implicate chronic Al neurotoxicity in humans, who frequently have had mild tau pathology from a young age.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23574527
AmBlue
(3,110 posts)Happy to have you join us!
BethMomDem
(70 posts)HuckleB
(35,773 posts)You are pushing disinformation. Please stop. Cherry picked preliminary studies do not show that the ingredients in vaccines today are not safe.
You are pushing the usual line of anti-vaccine nonsense, so please don't play games.
BethMomDem
(70 posts)She subsequently discovered that according to the TGA, the Gardasil manufacturer did not conduct studies on ovarian effects of the vaccine or any studies regarding ongoing fertility effects.
Disinformatioin?No that's what you are pushing. If I was posting hogwash then you would have posted a study showing Aluminum to be completely safe. Maybe an MSDS sheet showing 100% Safety?
MAYBE, WELL ANYTHING???????????? Oh why am I asking, you can't because Aluminum, mercury, and most bonded Adjuvants are known biological toxins.
Cherry picked? Please post anything that proves the safety of these toxic metals. At least qualify your accusation of "hogwash" with links, studies, SCIENCE...other than industry funded papers that leave out convenient facts about toxicological studies.
HuckleB
(35,773 posts)That is the classic disinformation tactic used by anti-vaxers.
This is correlation, not causation. Science does not work how you think it works.
Your actions are harmful. And that's being very kind.
http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/hpv-vaccine-for-boys/
BethMomDem
(70 posts)Besides anecdotal reports are used by the FDA all the time, For instance it was what they used to ban Ephedra, and to black box anti-depressants.
Besides causation has already been established and proven, follow the links I presented above.
Since the vaccines cause autoantibodies against the brains neuronal fibers to be produced in many cases, they have triggered demyelinating disorders, he said, adding they have also induced many cases of cerebral vasculitis.
Cerebral vasculitis causes the bodys immune system to attack blood vessels in the brain, often leading to hemorrhaging, said Sato, who runs a hospital in Osaki, Miyagi Prefecture.
The marketing of Cervarix, made by GlaxoSmithKlein PLC of Britain, was approved in 2009. This was followed by Gardasil, made by Merck Sharp & Dohme (better known as Merck & Co. in the U.S.), in 2011.
The ministry says that it has received a total of 1,968 reports of adverse reactions and that 3.28 million girls had been vaccinated as of March 31. The association says thats just the tip of the iceberg.
Ikeda said doctors often reject pleas from their patients parents to file reports about adverse reactions, which are needed to obtain compensation from the government.
This is either because they are afraid of being held responsible for the shots or because they are ignorant the vaccines can produce side effects, he said.
And when you find multiple reports of similar symptoms globally distributed, with the only similarity found was the Vaccine, you have found your cause. The unknown is whether it was the genetic material in the vaccine or the toxic adjuvants? Since the industry won't be honest about safety testing and won't perform long term studies, we are just supposed to accept their word that the vaccine is safe.
http://southweb.org/lifewise/victims-of-cervarix-and-gardasil-hpv-vaccines-in-japan-demand-shots-be-eradicated/
Charity Savage and physical therapist Lisa Slavin
work to get Zeda Pingel, 14, out of bed to continue
a therapy session)
I first wrote about the Lake Station teenager in October 2009, after she suffered a negative reaction to the Gardasil vaccine. The shot was intended to protect her from cervical cancer, but it crippled her body and left her bedridden and in need of round-the-clock care.
In other words, she shouldnt have received that vaccination. But her mother, Amy, wasnt aware of the potential risks of Gardasil, billed as the only cervical cancer vaccine to help protect females against four types of human papilloma virus, or HPV.
I recently checked on Zedas situation when I read that a new government medical panel now recommends the controversial vaccine for teen boys, too in part to help prevent the cancer-causing virus through sex.
Zeda is doing great, her mother told me, although great is a relative term in the Pingel house.Zeda is still a shell of her former self, and she just recently got the tracheal tube removed from her body. She is, however, attending school twice a week.
HuckleB
(35,773 posts)You're offering anti-vaccine conspiracy BS. Opinions that have no support.
The web site I offered is one of the most accurate, honest, science web sites around.
BethMomDem
(70 posts)Tell that to the victims above, cause you know, it's you're opinion that they are all faking it Wanna tell this girl she is a liar? Wanna tell her to STFU because you're unwilling to grasp the conclusions of the studies I linked above?
Do you want to tell this girl that she is a liar? That she is faking breathlessness? That she was faking her seizures?
Meanwhile they will have to live with the lasting effects of these toxic adjuvants.
This new information from the government shows that the serious safety concerns about the use of Gardasil have been well-founded. Public health officials should stop pushing Gardasil on children. said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton.
The CDC recommends the Gardasil vaccine, made by Merck Pharmaceuticals, for all females between 9 and 26 years to protect against HPV. Furthermore, the CDC says Gardasil is licensed, safe, and effective for males ages 9 through 26 years.
The facts appear to contradict the FDAs safety statements. The adverse reaction reports detail 26 new deaths reported between September 1, 2010 and September 15, 2011 as well as incidents of seizures, paralysis, blindness, pancreatitis, speech problems, short term memory loss and Guillain-Barré Syndrome. The documents come from the FDAs Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) which is used by the FDA to monitor the safety of vaccines.
Read more: http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/stress-and-health-dr-lind/2013/apr/10/us-court-pays-6-million-gardasil-victims/#ixzz2jDzfIedO
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The site you promote is industry propaganda pure and simple. I read a few more stories, most of them ambiguously target proven therapies and blanket deny the science behind them simply because the profits aren't going to big industries with $$$$INTERSTS!
HuckleB
(35,773 posts)Yes, you are lying. You are pushing the worst kind of crap, and it only does harm.
Do you really think you're offering anything of value by pushing this conspiracy nonsense?
Celebration
(15,812 posts)Have zero to do with VICP awards.
HuckleB
(35,773 posts)xfundy
(5,105 posts)There's a Mooooooooooooon out tonight...
gopiscrap
(23,758 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)I agree with the article in the OP. Males are the primary vector for HPV, it only makes sense to vaccinate us against it so that we cannot be carriers. Duh.
xchrom
(108,903 posts)this is a cancer we can do some serious damage to it's numbers.