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csziggy

(34,136 posts)
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 12:26 PM Oct 2018

Lost THIRTY pounds since last year!

Last year at this time weighed 287. I was headed to an aortic valve replacement, followed by the removal of my left kidney.

After the kidney operation I couldn't hold food down for four days and then while I still had no appetite I cut my food intake and lost 27 pounds while I did my cardio rehab physical therapy. I then signed up for a local gym but made the mistake of taking one of their balance classes. That pushed the L5 vertebrae which had been damaged over 35 years ago to being unstable and impinging on the nerves to my legs.

I stopped exercising - I couldn't even sit without discomfort - while I went to the best local back doctor for diagnosis. A month wait for the first appointment, six weeks for the MRI, and six more weeks to go back for the diagnosis while I lost all the conditioning from my earlier exercise and gained fourteen pounds.

On Aug. 27 the surgeon told me I have to get down to 230 before he can operate. It is due to a limitation in the length of the instruments he uses for the minimally invasive procedure, not any prejudice of his. That day I weighed 273 pounds. He tried to sell me on a meal replacement plan his practice sells, but after looking at the details I found it to be expensive ($400 per person per month), not nutritionally sound, and something I would not be able to stick with. Aside from that I was concerned about how the high protein, no carb diet would load my single remaining kidney.

I'd signed up for MyFitnessPal.com before the heart surgery but I had not gone back to using it because I had been losing weight. So that night I went back to using the program. At first I was trying to stay under 1500 calories a day, with good success, but I had set a goal to lose the weight by the end of the year. So I dropped my goal to 1000-1200 calories a day.

I have not had a problem staying under 1200 calories. Mornings I have home made muffins (mostly banana spice) with a fruit cup; lunch, a half sandwich (pimento cheese or tuna), dinner is generally home cooked, under 300 calories, and two or three snacks. I get hungry but I am not hungry all the time plus I have enough energy to do what I need to do.

The snacks are usually a "magic" chocolate shake - 1 tbspn cocoa, 2 packets Splenda, 1 teaspoon Benefiber, 1 scoop chocolate flavored protein powder, and 1 cup of ice (with 1/2 tsp instant coffee if I want a boost) blended in my ancient blender until it is smooth - one ounce of a good cheddar cheese, or a frozen fruit bar (Outshine or Whole Fruit).

I use MyFitnessPal to check my recipes so I can change low cal ingredients for higher ones and check portions. Since I mostly eat at home, it is essential that I be able to calculate calories in my own cooking and this makes it easy.

This morning I was down to 256 pounds! Only 26 pounds to go by the first of the years!

Last week I went to the pain management clinic associated with the back doctor's practice and got a nerve block (steroid shot). Hopefully this will let me go back to doing at least cardio workouts on the treadmill. Adding in exercise should accelerate my weight loss. I'm already ahead of the curve that MyFitnessPal's two pounds a week maximum goal allows. Burning an extra 3-500 calories should help a lot!



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csziggy

(34,136 posts)
3. I'm using fruit more than veggies
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 01:07 PM
Oct 2018

I have cooked veggies with dinner but can't face them at morning or noon. About once a month or so I might have a green salad but I like my blue cheese dressing too much and if I am going to stay in my calorie range I can't have enough of that to taste it!

safeinOhio

(32,676 posts)
7. I'm just 5 lbs from my goal of 185.
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 01:45 PM
Oct 2018

I’m sure this will be the hardest 5. But, eating all these veggies, it seems I’m pooping the weight off. Going about 4 times a day.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
8. I just ca't eat the raw veggies I'd like
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 03:13 PM
Oct 2018

Not straight, anyway. Yeah I can eat celery - but only when topped with peanut butter or pimento cheese - and each of those are 100 calories a SPOONFUL! I'm trying to keep snacks lower in calories than what I would eat with a stalk of celery and addons.

I do make sure I get big servings of cooked veggies at dinner. Broccoli, green beans, cauliflower, etal.

Right now I am using up boxed stuff and canned foods. This week, we'd emptied the freezer of vegetables except for frozen mixed vegetables I generally use in stews. Earlier I had one bag of chopped spinach, so that went into a Goya rice and black beans box with home made pulled pork. Last night I made a salmon casserole (2 cans Kirkland salmon, 1 box Annies white cheddar shells, 16 ounces mixed vegetables with added herbs and seasonings).

Next week we go on a cruise to Cozumel and when we get back it's a major shopping trip to Costco for frozen vegetables. I get frozen for less planning and less waste - left over from my carpal tunnel days when chopping vegetables was a nightmare.

Congratulations on reaching your goal! I'm sure you will be there, soon.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
5. I'm just worried about reaching a plateau as my metabolism slows down
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 01:12 PM
Oct 2018

So I can't make my end of the year goal. I got a letter of clearance from the pain management clinic to go back to the gym. I had a prepaid membership and if I have that doctor's letter they will credit me with the months I missed.

I was going to the gym 3-4 times a week so going back should help.

The big challenge is that we are going on a cruise next week and I will have to be very, VERY careful what I eat. We're not paying for WiFi on the ship so I can't keep my food diary or check calories.

Last weekend when we went downstate for Mom's funeral I couldn't get the MyFitnessPal app to work on my old tablet so couldn't check calories then, either. I kept notes, though and found that I was ultra conservative. I stayed UNDER 1000 calories each day (MyFitnessPal does NOT like that).

If I can do that on the cruise, I will be very happy!

Kali

(55,008 posts)
4. congrats!
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 01:08 PM
Oct 2018

I did two sessions of an on line program called Precision Nutrition - lost 20% of my bodywieght the first year and maintained that loss for over a year. Probably going to sign up again in January (they only take people twice per year). Science based, food is up to you, no meal plans or counting calories, work out plans if you want or do your own. It had just the right amount of accountability and forgiving attitude that I needed. Personal coach for the year, plus real people support on facebook. They are all about changing habits, not doing fads or diets. You can get a lot of their info for free on their website. I lost 15-20 lbs between sign up and starting the program just from doing the common sense change of eating slowly. We know this, but who actually takes the time to make new habits?

Check it out, here are some popular infographics (ignore the ads) https://www.precisionnutrition.com/blog/infographics

The two things I didn't like were their contest (you can win a nice chunk of change, but the whole thing makes me uncomfortable as it almost seems to go against what the program is really about) and that the support groups are on facebook. I like the support group aspect but I don't like facebook. You don't have to use it but it helps if you have questions or just want to talk to others doing the same program.

Sorry to blather on, I think I just needed to talk myself back into the alumni group and to go back and access my info from before (you get access to the whole year's work for another year after, in my case I can still see both years together) it was a bit pricey, but for me not having any real support and in no way confident enough to go to a public gym...it really made a huge difference. I am so much healthier than I was in 2016 and considerably lighter too!

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
6. I took a look - they are very secretive about the cost!
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 01:35 PM
Oct 2018

I like that MyFitnessPal is FREE. I make my choices and can see the basic nutrition in each food. If I paid for it, I could track more nutritional factors, but the free version is working for me.

Precision Nutrition does not say clearly on their site (until you sign up for their "presale" list, maybe?) how much it costs. In a review it says $1800 USD (around $5 USD per day) (https://www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/team_messageboard_thread.asp?board=0x13151x66132842) That's more than my husband and I average per DAY for food at home! The review I linked is not all that flattering about the program, either.

The gym I go to have a wide range of people attending - from very fit young people to obese olders. I've been very encouraged by the attitudes there - no sidewise glances at an old obese lady, even by the young muscle bound men. Everybody seems happy that we all are working to improve our bodies. I know that is not the norm in gyms, but this one is associated with the local hospital and has some rehab programs for those recovering from operations.

My hardest part is that with every operation I put on weight during the time before or after when I could not exercise. I was never as thin as my "target weight" as an adult, but I was fit until I blew out the first knee in 2001. Since then every few years I have had an operation, followed by a period of inactivity, short periods of physical therapy, then attempts to get back to fitness.

After I got my knees replaced in 2012, I couldn't exercise because I couldn't breathe - but it took four years to find my heart murmur and a year to get the aortic valve replaced. I was dedicated to get back in shape, now the damned back shows up. Now I am dedicated to losing the weight and keeping it OFF.

One good thing - usually I wold gain weight while inactive but level off. I think if I can lose weight at a reasonable rate, I can level off at the lower weight. However it works I plan to keep using MyFitnessPal to track what I am eating.

Kali

(55,008 posts)
9. it runs around 900-1000 if you pay up front, if I recall and fully refundable if you are not happy.
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 03:48 PM
Oct 2018

I think they dropped the price last year, pretty sure I paid 1200 the first year and it was a hard decision for me to make. Ended up totally worth it to me. I had been yelled at by a doctor trying to get my leg healed and he tried to send me to a local medical weight loss place. But when I called them I didn't actually have any medical problems and they wouldn't accept me. So I started looking around on line and found an article by Dr. Barardi that really resonated with me, having to do with counting calories or something and how inaccurate that is and I just liked how reality based it was. Looked some more - got really turned off by the contest stuff, went back and forth, couldn't find many reviews at all good or bad, and the few bad seemed more on the disgruntled side rather than actually anything wrong with the program itself so I got on the list for early registration figuring I could decide when that came up. For once in my life I had the money on hand (or at least available credit LOL) when the day came so I took it as a sign and went for it.

I disagree that it is not a good program for a beginner, at least for me - I was a total beginner (my only ever working out for the sake of working out was grade school PE and a few months of Jane Fonda on vinyl/vhs in the early 80s ) I also disagree about the book they offer at the end - it does in fact duplicate a lot of the material - it seems to actually be based on an even older version of PN when it was called Lean Eating or something like that. I bought it but I feel just kind of neutral about it - there is some reinforcing material but there isn't really anything new. Might be good for people that like paper and real books (which I normally do, but for some reason I just liked the on-line aspects of the program)

As to the web format, I really liked it and they upgraded to fix some of that reviewer's complaints last year (the owners manual was separated out and is a lot easier to search than the archives, which still require a lot of scrolling though it can be sorted to make it a bit less) I didn't get any 90s vibe from it. It is clean and easy to use.

I was in the July 2016 and July 2017 cohorts. In 2017 they changed the way they do the facebook stuff - put all the coaches and their coachees in one place so you could cross over and talk to anybody in the cohort and any coach, assistant or mentor (or anybody) could reply. I am not sure I liked the change, but I have issues with FB that biases me against it anyway. There are people from all over the world doing it (English only though) Australia, Asia, Indonesia, all over Europe, Mexico, I think there was even somebody from Russia last year. Mostly the US and Canada, of course. All the conference calls/videos were available to watch and you could still ask questions later on FB if not participate directly so that wasn't a big deal to me (and frankly I didn't find them that helpful anyway) I think you will get a smaller proportion of people that actively participate in these sorts of things no matter what. Some people are just readers/observers while others like to get right in there and ask for support, get high fives etc. Last year they had those zoom meeting at different times and some weekends so that is changed. As to locker room language...it was just rare enough to be effective (and funny!) not offensive to me at all - the person who wrote the curriculum is Krista Scott-Dixon and she has written some pretty damn funny things on her own, including a book called "Why Me Want Eat: Fixing Your Food F*ckedupitude" LOL.

For me it was the content of the lessons, deeper articles, and the format of getting a little reward via clicking that you read the lesson/did the workout/did the habit that was the thing that worked for me. I never thought about getting a little swag at the end and now that that person mentions it, yeah it would be a good thing for them to add. The shaker bottle is nice and comes at a good time. My coach also sent little things personally so maybe I just got one of the good ones. From what I could see on the various conference videos, they all seemed like good coaches so not sure what the gripe was there, mine would contact me when I didn't "show" up for more than a few days so ??? It may go the the variability of needing attention, personally I didn't need too much - an occasional question answered or the light nudge to get back on track if I hadn't been around. I tended to ask things like specific info for movements I couldn't do. The workouts were customized for my crap knees and beginner status, but occasionally I didn't know what the instructions meant (workouts would have written instruction plus videos to follow but sometimes they didn't seem to quite mesh and I can get bogged down in those kind of details instead of just doing something close LOL)

Tell me more about your free program, maybe I should check that out for a few months while I wait and decide about reupping to PN in January. I have made some good permanent changes to the way I eat, but working out regularly has not stuck (other than swimming which I love and do almost daily in the summer) and with the knees I sure as hell haven't been riding much anymore (one of my real goals - to get back to riding).

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
11. My Fitness Pal is aimed at people who want to track their calories
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 05:50 PM
Oct 2018

At least the free part I am using. It doesn't seem solely for those who are trying to lose since some of the forum sections are for people trying to bulk up.

I LOVE their food diary - you can enter generic food (say a cup of milk), brand names (great for boxed or premade stuff), or restaurant items. Last weekend I ate at Perkins and could pick stuff off their menu and check the calories against their claims - or as I did one morning, build my own omelet so it was stuff I liked. A two egg, cheddar cheese, bacon and mushroom omelet was 290 calories.

There is a recipe function where you can enter your recipe ingredients and number of servings and it estimates the calories per serving. Since I mostly cook at home this is wonderful. I can even enter brand name boxed mixes and what I am adding to them, estimate servings and get a calorie count. Once you have the recipe saved, you can log it to your food diary anytime you want to repeat it.

You have a check in for entering your weight and measurements. So far I have NOT measured myself. I just don't want to know! I need to as I lose weight so I can keep track of what size I am down to. right now I am between the sizes I own so most of my clothes are too large. I have a big bag of slacks and jeans two sizes down which I should fit soon.

They have a report feature for seeing where you are with charts or you can prints reports on calories, weight, or the various nutritional items they track. Apparently the paid version adds to what you can track, but I am not concerned about adding more details.

They also have a community area with forums for discussions about the functions, cheering each other on and so forth. I haven't used it much other than to discover why the app wouldn't work on my tablet and to read a few of the messages. I may jump in at some point but I am more comfortable here with the people I already know.

For free it's got a lot of features but it does not have that personal coach part that PN does. That works better for me. I am not a social person and am not used to being "coached" by someone else about anything. It's hard enough when I go through physical therapy to have to deal with people every session!

airplaneman

(1,239 posts)
10. Boy do I know this battle.
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 04:43 PM
Oct 2018

Absolute Kudos for your accomplishment!
I have been trying to loose for a couple of years - with very little success.
You heard of the see food diet. Well mine is more like search and destroy.
Einstein said matter cannot be created or destroyed. Well weight can only be created and never destroyed.
Actually I plan to double down and try some more.
-Airplane

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
12. It is such a fight!
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 06:06 PM
Oct 2018

I did OK at maintaining my weight when I was working on the farm but then I was burning a LOT of calories everyday by shoveling stalls, moving hay, working horses, and more. I was overweight but not obese - but I had always been overweight.

In 1993 I blew out my left shoulder - a colt snatched the arm and destroyed the rotator cuff - was not able to do my work for a year and gained a lot. I worked hard at the PT afterwards and got back in shape but could not lose the weight.

Beginning in 2001 that cycle happened over and over - 2001 left knee medial meniscus; 2002 hysterectomy; 2007 right knee medial meniscus; 2009 right shoulder clean up; 2012 both knees total replacement (one at a time), right arm carpal tunnel and radial nerve relocation; 2013 left arm carpal tunnel, radial nerve relocation, and arthroplasty on the thumb; 2017 aortic valve replacement and left kidney removed (and they threw in umbilical hernia repair). Each time I gained weight, did the PT, and tried to lose the weight over again.

My weight crept up and up, especially between 2012 and 2017 when my heart wasn't working properly and I simply had not endurance. In addition, my father died in 2013 and my mother in law was ill all of 2016 and died in January 2017, so my husband and I spent a lot of time dealing with those deaths and the afermaths. Now my mother has died and we have to do that over again.

I do like the control that MyFitnessPal.com gives me - see my comments about it to Kali. So far I see no reason to move to the paid version since the free one is working for me. Someone here on DU first brought it to my attention and I thank them, whoever they were!

Good luck - it's hard but hopefully doable. I am halfway to my goal so I'm pleased.

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