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I have heard that this can cause problems using it around animals and I have never used it. However, more and more of the cleaning products today are putting it in as an ingredient, especially floor cleaners. I don't want to use something that can harm my cats just to have clean floors, but it's getting more and more difficult to find something that doesn't contain it.
I usually use 7th Generation Natural Products, but can't always find that. Has anyone used Febreeze with cats in their house?
roody
(10,849 posts)They and their kids are always sick, but they don't believe me that the stuff is toxic. I spent a week with them a year ago then came home with the worst cold I had ever had. This year I stayed in a different home at visiting time.
barbtries
(28,815 posts)never had a problem
eta never been sick for 3 years now
Progressive dog
(6,922 posts)Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)I had no problems with it, but I stopped when I heard the rumors that it was toxic to animals. I saw no evidence of that, but decided to error on the side of caution. I figured better safe than sorry, and I really didn't have a good reason for using it anyways. But I saw no ill effects and those cats lived a long life without health problems until they were up in years.
On the flip side, there are a lot of cleaners that you can find that do not have anything toxic in them, and if you are the least bit concerned, just use those products that you know have no ingredients that would cause you to worry about it. And you can feel better knowing that you are not contributing to the buildup of toxic products in your house, which is always a plus.
roody
(10,849 posts)Benzaldehyde, Benzyl Acetate, Trimethyl Pentanyl Diisobutyrate, etc.
http://www.chemicalsensitization.com/2011/07/80-chemical-ingredients-in-febreze.html
I have worked in kitchens and group homes and had to use bleach on everything. Besides coughing my brains out, I cannot touch bleach without very heavy rubber gloves. My hands itch and break out in blisters. I have very sensitive skin to all these chemicals.
I think I will stay with those plant based products; orange or evergreens. Non toxic and bio-degradable. If push comes to shove, there is always the good old standby my Grandma used; white vinegar and water. I have used that on windows, stove, countertops for years. It may not smell as nice as oranges and evergreens, but it works, very cheap, and non-toxic and biodegradable.
I would rather be safe than sorry around my cats, and ME.
badgerpup
(4,837 posts)I use rubber gloves, but sometimes my hands get really dry with badly chapped knuckles.
Lotion doesn't seem to help.
I use either Bag Balm or A & D ointment...smear it all over my poor maltreated hands and then put on latex-free rubber gloves. Leave them on for a few hours (this is great when going to sleep for a while).
It puts a turbo-heal on the cracks in the skin and gets rid of the itch beautifully.
I wish they'd use something different for disinfectant, but the bleach is cheap, it works (and I'm not in charge of policy), so whattaya gonna do?
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)It's also wonderful for bug bites. My old Italian Grandma used it for everything. I can use vinegar with my bare hands and don't have any reaction. Unfortunately, OSHA doesn't agree and everything is BLEACH. Is white vinegar more expensive than bleach? I don't think so.
Coyote_Bandit
(6,783 posts)I boarded my two dogs while I went to a family reunion.
When I returned I found that they were unusually lethargic, and had foot pad sensitivity. Within hours I discovered that they have bloody footpads. I took them to my vet. Long story made short: they had painful chemical burns that took a long time to heal. The cause apparently was the disinfectant (D-128) which was used in the kennel. The receptionist where the dogs were boarded admitted to my vet that they had used the disinfectant for only a few weeks and had discontinued its use because the dogs were having "allergic reactions" to it. I documented the injuries and my treatment expense, researched the disinfectant and presented a demand for reimbursement (on which I never collected any $$$).
The United States Environmental Protection Agency considers didecyl dimethyl ammonium chloride (DDAC), one of two active ingredients in D-128, a category one pesticide which is highly toxic. It can cause corrosive skin effects with destruction into the dermis and/or scarring. It is included on the list of PAN Bad Actor Pesticides, which identifies it as one of the most toxic pesticides in the world. There have been no U.S. National Toxicology Program acute toxicity studies for didecyl dimethyl ammonium chloride. However, there have been a number of toxicity studies of the effects of the chemical on aquatic organisms. Notably those studies show the following effects:
(1) Biochemical effects to glucose levels in starry flounder and various species of coho salmon;
(2) Biochemical effects to hematocrit, hemoglobin, lactate, leucocrit, and sodium levels in starry flounder and various species of coho salmon; and
(3) Hormonal effects to cortisol levels In rainbow trout and various species of coho salmon.
Benzalkonium chloride (BAC) and dimethyldioctadecyl-ammonium bromide (DDAB), have been shown to cause genotoxic effects in mammalian and plant cells. DDAC is the structural equivalent of DDAB. Researchers speculate that the compounds may cause chromosome breakage in rats.
In doing my research I learned that Febreeze had attempted to register the use of one of these chemicals (DDAC) and had in fact at ne point incorporated it in its formulation. There is a rather lengthy opinion citing extensive research by the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation Division of Solid and Hazardous Materials.
DDAC is a quaternary ammonium chemical compound and many of the problems associated with its use are also related to other chemical compounds with a similar chemical structure.
Personally, I wouldn't have the stuff anywhere around my animals. There is no Febreeze in my home.
Behind the Aegis
(54,031 posts)Don't go nuts with it, a little bit works.
mopinko
(70,280 posts)Behind the Aegis
(54,031 posts)However, I have had scads of birds in the past, including canaries. I actually bred finches, so at one point, we had almost 50 birds in the house. We have never noticed problems.
You can see them here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1161&pid=1193
TorchTheWitch
(11,065 posts)Nothing else I've found works for that. Other than that I don't use it for anything.
I've also noticed that it seems that it's in all kinds of other products now. Just noticed that kind of recently. I wonder what's up with that?