Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

NNadir

(33,525 posts)
Sun Jun 20, 2021, 12:48 AM Jun 2021

Three Generals Reconsider Ulysses S. Grant and Robert E. Lee.

I watched this conversation, broadcast by CSPAN history this afternoon, between three American Generals, reevaluating the legacy of Ulysses S. Grant and Robert E. Lee, the context of the discussion focusing especially on racism in the US Army, West Point,

Retired Generals David Petraeus, Dana Pittard and Ty Seidule discussed military bases named for Confederates, various memorials to Robert E. Lee on the campus of West Point and whether Grant should posthumously be made a five-star general. The Grant Monument Association provided this video. One can view it at the link below and I recommend it highly for anyone interested in the history of racism in this country.

General David Petraeus is famous for the Iraq war of course, and is a graduate of West Point, as is Brig. General Dana Pittard, who is African American, who discusses his experience as an African American officer in the US Army beginning with his years at West Point.. General Ty Seidule is the former head of the military history department at West Point.

There was much discussion of General Siedule's book, ROBERT E. LEE AND ME A Southerner's Reckoning with the Myth of the Lost Cause. This is definitely on my reading list; had I known about it I would have requested it from my sons as a Father's Day gift.

General Siedule got his undergraduate education at Washington and Lee University in Virginia and he describes his trajectory from being a student at a University where there is a chapel dedicated to Robert E. Lee, festooned with Confederate flags - flags that General Pittard describes as being to him the equivalent of Nazi flags - to a serious historian who has recognized that Robert E. Lee was a traitor to his oath and his country. General Siedule discusses how US Army bases, such as Fort Hood, Fort Benning and Fort Bragg came to be named after traitors to their country who actually killed US soldiers. He now is on the commission to remove the names of all of the Confederate traitors from the names of US Army bases.

I recommend watching this conversation highly. It is available on line here:

Generals Grant and Lee Reconsidered.

CSPANs text describing the video:

The Civil War
Generals Grant and Lee Reconsidered
To mark the 199th anniversary of Ulysses S. Grant’s birthday, the Grant Monument Association hosted a discussion about Grant and Lee’s legacy. Retired Generals David Petraeus, Dana Pittard and Ty Seidule discussed military bases named for Confederates, various memorials to Robert E. Lee on the campus of West Point and whether Grant should posthumously be made a five-star general. The Grant Monument Association provided this video.
3 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Three Generals Reconsider Ulysses S. Grant and Robert E. Lee. (Original Post) NNadir Jun 2021 OP
Thanks for posting. Did you happen to catch "Grant" on the History Channel... brush Jun 2021 #1
Sorry, I missed it. I have a very high opinion of General and President Grant, and have read... NNadir Jun 2021 #2
Agreed. He kept the nation together during his presidency... brush Jun 2021 #3

brush

(53,788 posts)
1. Thanks for posting. Did you happen to catch "Grant" on the History Channel...
Sun Jun 20, 2021, 01:04 AM
Jun 2021

several months ago? It was excellent as well.

NNadir

(33,525 posts)
2. Sorry, I missed it. I have a very high opinion of General and President Grant, and have read...
Sun Jun 20, 2021, 01:51 AM
Jun 2021

...many biographies of him, but I do miss some stuff about him.

I regard him as the Second best, and in many ways, one of the most essential Presidents of the 19th century, and I am very pleased that a historical reevaluation of his Presidency is underway, as well as appreciation of his Generalship.

I would be very pleased if Congress posthumously raised him to 5 Star Rank, as they did for General Washington. Without General Grant, there would be no United States, and without President Grant, it may not have held together, nor would it have been set on a regrettably interrupted path to realizing its ideals.

brush

(53,788 posts)
3. Agreed. He kept the nation together during his presidency...
Sun Jun 20, 2021, 02:01 AM
Jun 2021

after saving it from being split apart in the war.

Latest Discussions»Culture Forums»American History»Three Generals Reconsider...