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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,586 posts)
Sun Nov 20, 2022, 10:57 AM Nov 2022

Marijuana May Hurt Smokers More Than Cigarettes Alone

Marijuana may do more harm to smokers than cigarettes, according to a small study based on chest scans of patients in Canada

wsj.com
Marijuana May Hurt Smokers More Than Cigarettes Alone
Emphysema and other ailments are more common among people who smoke marijuana.


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Marijuana May Hurt Smokers More Than Cigarettes Alone (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2022 OP
I guess if it may pwb Nov 2022 #1
A few things come to mind taxi Nov 2022 #5
Yep, Rupert's pukes like the meanness from liquor. pwb Nov 2022 #7
Not surprising bucolic_frolic Nov 2022 #2
The science with references... This MD reads all the med science and comments... mitch96 Nov 2022 #3
Seems reasonable that anything you breathe into your lungs that isn't fresh air is harmful . Srkdqltr Nov 2022 #4
Agreed Rebl2 Nov 2022 #11
Chronic vs casual use. multigraincracker Nov 2022 #6
In my 50 odd years of smoking pot LakeArenal Nov 2022 #8
My 55 years reflect the same experience. quaint Nov 2022 #9
Same time frame, similar experience. I realize this is personal observation, not scientific proof, Arkansas Granny Nov 2022 #10
More are waking up to the idea you do not have to SMOKE to benefit. Runningdawg Nov 2022 #12

taxi

(1,896 posts)
5. A few things come to mind
Sun Nov 20, 2022, 11:17 AM
Nov 2022

The first is in how often and in what quantities each are smoked. A cigarette smoker can be smoking dozens of cigarettes every day, year after year. Finding a comparable consumer of marijuana would be difficult. The second is how the hoi polloi accept exceptions to be the norm; suddenly we live in fear of smoking a joint, thanks to the WSJ.

mitch96

(13,924 posts)
3. The science with references... This MD reads all the med science and comments...
Sun Nov 20, 2022, 11:09 AM
Nov 2022
https://nutritionfacts.org/2022/11/15/does-smoking-cannabis-cause-lung-cancer/

The key takeaways:
At least 33 carcinogens are in marijuana smoke, including polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons that are also found in grilled meat.

Most cigarette users inhale more smoke each day than do marijuana smokers, but cannabis users may inhale more deeply and hold in smoke longer, which can result in depositing four times more tar into their lungs.

When cigarette use was accounted for, no increased cancer risk was found and the same was found for head and neck cancer.

Regular marijuana use leads to symptoms of chronic bronchitis, but there is no evidence of emphysema (long-term lung damage) or increased risk of lung cancer.

Smoking one joint a day for ten years may only translate to six months of smoking a pack of cigarettes a day, and, in most studies on tobacco smoke and lung cancer, six months of smoking in a lifetime may even classify you as a “never smoker.”

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multigraincracker

(32,714 posts)
6. Chronic vs casual use.
Sun Nov 20, 2022, 11:37 AM
Nov 2022

IF you are smoking 4 or 5 joints a day, you have a problem. If you can't go a day or two without, you have a problem.
The good news is there is help with both cigarettes and pot. Just have to ask.

LakeArenal

(28,837 posts)
8. In my 50 odd years of smoking pot
Sun Nov 20, 2022, 11:40 AM
Nov 2022

No one I know has any long term medical problem from pot.

Not saying the science is wrong. Just not in my experience. Also, in my 50 odd years I’ve been told by other science reports that pot was going to cause such problems. Yet, no one I know.

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