Gun Control & RKBA
Related: About this forumN.Y. senator vows to pass toughest gun laws in nation
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/01/04/gun-control-new-york/1809857/ALBANY, N.Y. A breakaway group of New York legislators vowed Friday to help Gov. Andrew Cuomo pass the strongest assault-weapons ban in the country.
Sen. Jeffrey Klein, a Democrat from the Bronx, N.Y., who heads the now-five-member Independent Democratic Conference, said after a 90-minute meeting in Cuomo's office that the group supports the governor's legislation "wholeheartedly" and that he hopes it will be passed as soon as possible preferably this month.
The governor has yet to reveal his gun-control proposal publicly but has said one is expected as part of his State of the State address Wednesday.
"I think we're on the same page," Klein said. "We have to do everything possible to ban assault weapons in New York, (as well as) high-capacity magazines, make sure that people with serious mental-health issues don't possess guns. And I think that's what we have to do in the state of New York pass one of the toughest gun laws in the nation."
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The Backlash is HERE
yup
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
jody
(26,624 posts)Constitution
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
jody
(26,624 posts)Kolesar
(31,182 posts)and a weapon that can mow down dozens of children in ten minutes? Is not that your definition of freedom and a "civil right"?
jody
(26,624 posts)jpak
(41,759 posts)yup
jody
(26,624 posts)infringement of individual rights for a balance with social benefits.
Government has no authority to prohibit any right, just some infringement.
rl6214
(8,142 posts)Good luck with that sparky
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
iiibbb
(1,448 posts)cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
GreenStormCloud
(12,072 posts)You need 2/3 of both House and Senate and then 3/4 of the states for ratification. Over half the House and almost half the Senate has NRA rating of "A", and there are many pro-gun states.
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,482 posts)Kolesar
(31,182 posts)discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,482 posts)...we also characterize the behavior of the pro-control Nazis as circular, referring to them as being in the charlie-foxtrot configuration.
chaska
(6,794 posts)I just find it interesting how anti-gun New York is, or rather its politicians (protectors of privilege that they are). New York, the central location for the new robber baron era. Let's do protect those Wall Streeters.
To any crazy gun nuts who might be reading this, David Koch lives at 740 Park Ave., as do many other criminals.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Maybe because this MSM move is getting a little too close for comfort. Is it possible that some of these permit-holders may be strong GC advocates?
Puha Ekapi
(594 posts)Ashgrey77
(236 posts)rl6214
(8,142 posts)Maybe because they are out of the norm, radical and without much chance of passing.
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)violent ex-boyfriends, violent ex-husbands, and by violent criminals who like to stalk but may not even know their names.
These women, including any rape victims, have firearms whose only purpose is to kill other people.
And, in this modern age, all these women probably have cell phones so they can easily call the police.
/sarcasm off
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)She was attacked by stalker Ryan Bergner. Prior to this he had slashed her tires, kicked at her door , accosted her at work, broken in to her house and stolen from her. Six police complaints filed against him did not stop him. 911 did not stop him. Three bullets did.
http://eoars.avrnlive.com/welcome-to-eye-on-america-roadshow/2010/12/08/911-did-not-stop-an-indiana-home-invasion-three-bullets-did/
holdencaufield
(2,927 posts)... use a firearm or move closer to a doughnut shop.
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)There are some reports of the cut-backs on the web. See, e.g.,
Fifth-Most Crime Ridden City in America Dismisses a Fourth of its Police Force. 911 Still in Service
http://www.democraticunderground.com/117297556
Spryguy
(120 posts)Remmah2
(3,291 posts)holdencaufield
(2,927 posts)... doesn't have to go to shops for either his doughnuts or his cops -- both are available to him 24/7 with a wave of his hand.
And, at the end of the day, isn't that what bans are all about? Guns (and doughnuts) for me but not for thee.
Clames
(2,038 posts)Douchebaggery at work but mostly empty talk and rhetoric. Makes themselves and other anti-gun extremists feel better about getting whipped in the courts for the last decade or so.
Yup.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Puha Ekapi
(594 posts)...about all this. If our leadership doesn't come to their collective senses and insists on pushing hard on highly restrictive gun control legislation, we'll have Kontrakt with Amerika Part Deux in 2014, and most likely a Republikan President in 2016. It's a Newt Gingrich wet dream.
Ashgrey77
(236 posts)All the progress and gains we've made in the last 4 years will be swept aside for conservative town, again. I'm not looking forward to that.
holdencaufield
(2,927 posts)... Step 1) Pander to the extremists in your party
... Step 2) Do nothing and blame it on obstructionists
... Step 3) Rinse and Repeat
Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)Wonder how the rest of state's constituents feel about this.