New Rifle Aiming System Make Ordinary Shooters Super Accurate at Over 1,000 Meters.

[GreenStormCloud]

http://www.defensereview.com/trackingpoint-xactsystem-precision-guided-firearm-pgf-package-with-integrated-networked-tracking-scope-heads-up-display-and-guided-trigger-for-future-snipers/

I came across the story in Popular Science and googled to find a link.

It is an electronic scope that sits on the rifle. The shooter presses a red button that marks the target. The system remembers the image of the target and calculates EXACTLY where the bullet will strike at that distance. EVERYTHING is taken into account, and it is done instantly. (Some data has to be pre-entered.) A set of blue crosshairs appears in the view showing where the bullet will hit. The shooter then moves the crosshairs onto the red dot while squeezing the trigger. The system will not let the gun fire until the crosshairs are exactly lined up with the red dot, then it fires the rifle. The system will even track a moving target and lead it the correct amount. The image the shooter is seeing can also be viewed, and saved, by another person with correct equipment.

Rifle in action at firing range:

Rifle in action on Africa game hunt
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This is available commercially to anybody with the money. I don't know the price. Since the sight can turn anyone into a precision shooter, how long will it be until the nervous anti-gunners are screaming for it to be banned for civilians?

Does our 2A rights cover aiming systems such as laser sights and this TAGG system? Naturally, I say that a sight is part of the gun

[NYC_SKP]

1. $20,000 to $22,000, including rifle (.338 Lapua Magnum or .308 Winchester Magnum)

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[cantbeserious]

2. I'll Go First - Nervous Anti-Gunner - Sending To Obama Administration To Be Tagged For Banning

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[safeinOhio]

3. Just great until

it puts someones eye out.

[nick of time]

4. At a 1000 yards at that.

[holdencaufield]

5. I prefer this

[Puha Ekapi]

6. At $20k

I don't think you are going to see too many on the streets. And it isn't magic....the shooter still has to execute the shot properly. And it isn't going to put eyes out at 1000 yards. If it can shoot 1/2 MOA @ 1000 yards with a trained shooter, that means the bullet will land somewhere within a 5" circle. And it also needs custom ammo tailored to the system. In short, this is a rich man's toy, not the choice of criminals.

[virginia mountainman]

7. I remember when VCR's where $2,500 each...

Give it about 10 years, and it will be MUCH cheaper, and MUCH better...

[Puha Ekapi]

8. If the military adopts it

then it probably has some merit for actual field use. But I can't see it being a drag-through-the-bushes robust system.

[GreenStormCloud]

10. No worse than a scoped rifle. N/T

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

11. If the military adopts it...

...I can see the price going up.

[GreenStormCloud]

12. Still be cheap.

How much does it cost to train a sniper?

One of those in every platoon could raise some serious hell with an enemy.

The technology appears to not be cutting-edge, just application of existing technology. That means an enemy could figure it out now that they have seen the concept. We could be facing systems like that in a couple of years.

[Puha Ekapi]

13. It still requires

a person skilled with the use of a rifle to execute the shot. It amounts to an automatic range and windage calculator...but it doesn't actually put the reticle on target and fire the weapon. The rifleman still needs to do that.

[GreenStormCloud]

15. Yes, it fires the weapon.

The red dot is placed on the target. The system remembers where the dot is and displays that. If it is wrong a then it is erased and a new one is placed. The system now displays where the round will hit, and the trigger is pulled.

The rifle will not fire until the red dot and the recticle are aligned, then it does.

[tortoise1956]

19. I still see some issues...

Unless the rifle has a predetermined minimum time that the reticle and target are aligned, then you will still need to be trained in proper breathing and trigger pull. That's more than half the battle in producing a good shooter, IMHO...

[GreenStormCloud]

20. You need to watch the videos on how it works.

The trigger is pulled and held back while the blue recticle is moved to the red dot. When they are aligned, the rifle fires itself. Since the trigger is held back, then proper trigger pull is no longer a problem, nor is breathing.

[dizbukhapeter]

21. How does it account for windage at the target?

Windage is something that isn't easily computable. This thing cant replace the amount of shooting one needs to be able to reliably call the wind.

[GreenStormCloud]

23. Some data has to be manually entered. N/T

[moroni]

30. Wind

My understanding is projectile drift (wind) still has to be accounted for by the shooter. This is a ranging device. Precision ammunition specifications can be downloaded into the optics via an iPad to adjust the POI on a given round.

[Scuba]

9. Certainly not for hunting game. Gross violation of "fair chase" ethic.

Sounds great for military use, SWAT teams.

It also sounds like a nightmare in criminal hands, making assassinations and other killings easier, escape more likely.

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

14. I'd guess...

...principally the criminal orgs that might use this type of system would be drug cartels. Systems manufactured domestically and set to be exported would likely raise some flags at FinCEN depending on the means of payment. Since there is no way the State Department won't be classing this as a weapon, exports will be tracked.

[jeepnstein]

35. And their Direct Sales program will cut down the paperwork.

Not that anyone wants to talk about that State Department program anymore.

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

36. Sshh....

....talk more softly.

[holdencaufield]

16. I'm just guessing here ...

... that someone a criminal is willing to pay $25,000 to assassinate won't be me.

Hell, he could get my Ex to do it for free.

[Remmah2]

17. Something else for the gun grabbers to become paranoid of.

Self parking cars, self aiming guns.......

What next?

[dizbukhapeter]

18. This scope is a toy and a waste of money

You can save 20k and buy this instructional DVD:

Long range shooting is not voodoo or rocket science. You dont need 20k piece of electronic to shoot far away. People have been shooting out 1k and beyond for a hundred years with just their eyeballs and some glass.

[Clames]

22. In WW2 it was expected to engage a target at 1000 yard ranges.

With iron sights too. Then again, full powered rifle cartridges like .30-06 were standard and basic rifle marksmanship was more thoroughly trained.

[GreenStormCloud]

24. 450 meters (About 400 yards) is max effective range for a battle rifle.

.308 and .30-06 are battle rifles.

Beyond that range individual shots are so likely to miss that it is better to save the ammo. Machine gun fire with the same round is considered effective out to 750 meters.

[Clames]

25. That might be for a point target and a just competent shooter.

But given the fact the M16 has a point target range of 500+m I think 440yds for a M1 during a much more powerful cartridge is extremely conservative. 800+m is not outside the envelope for the M1, especially with the right ammo. This is also seen with modern sniper rifles where optics and talent have made shots well past the on-paper effective range of the rifle they were using.

[GreenStormCloud]

28. 450 meters is for a rifleman firing at an enemy soldier with iron sights.

Past that range the bullet drop gets to be fairly severe. It takes a scope to be able to hold the right amount of holdover, as the enemy is completely hidden by the iron sights front post.

Past 450m with iron sights you are wasting ammo, although you will likely come close enough to scare him.

Full-auto is considered effective to 750m because it is basically a very long range shotgun. A short burst of three rounds, well aimed, has a greatly improved chance of hitting the enemy, or at least forcing him to take cover or concealment thereby slowing him down.

My numbers come from what I was taught in 1964 for the M-14 in U.S. Army basic training. I scored high sharpshooter, almost expert. It was a hot day and sweat dripped into my eyes.

[oneshooter]

34. 1000 yards with a 1878 Sharps

Vernier tang sights, black powder and cast lead bullets.

[jeepnstein]

37. I used to shoot our Garand out to 600 yards.q

We shot at 55 gallon drums at that distance. It wasn't too hard to hit one as long as you did your part and didn't worry about getting hit with the recoil. Now doing that at that range with the target shooting back would seriously degrade your performance.

The new scope looks interesting but I don't know how practical it is. I guess for a range queen or as a military sight it would be OK. I have issues with holding the trigger down while aligning the sights. If your target is standing still it would be OK I guess.

[iiibbb]

31. Now do it while being shot at...

[wandy]

26. Neat tech. It just doesn't seem quite right.......

If you haver fished a pond that is going to be drained, the idea is to keep food from going to wast. Fill the freezer.
The water gets lower, the fishing gets easier until those last few days when it becomes "mud wrestling for bass".
Hardly a sport.
Given this type of ability to go "venison shopping", would bagging a deer be any fun at all?

[GreenStormCloud]

29. Nope. No challenge. N/T

[iiibbb]

32. Anyone who needs the venisen probably doesn't have $20,000

... this technology is entirely unnecessary for hunting. The fact that it has a mode that fires the gun that takes over the actual discharge, potentially while you're not even looking, is actually pretty scary from a hunting perspective.

Seeing the deer that you want to hunt is actually the tougher exercise. Shooting the deer, while technically difficult in some circumstances, is actually less than half the battle.

[wandy]

33. Agreed....

"Seeing the deer that you want to hunt is actually the tougher exercise." I still hunt with a camera. Being the type who has a difficult time "sneaking up on a leaf", the hunt is the best part of it.
Fortunately leafs are general dumb and not all too very fast.
Unfortunately venison spiedies rate right up their with Prosciutto and melon.
If you're wondering what a spiedie is....
http://whatscookingamerica.net/History/Sandwiches/Spiedie.htm
You can use venison.
You can substitute red wine AND vinegar for red meet, white wine and vinegar for pork and poultry.
Vary marinate time to taste.
Vary wine/vinegar ratio to taste.

[diphthong]

27. Some guy at my range is bringing one over next week.

I can't wait to try it out!