Licensed Gun Nut stands his ground against a 14-year-old girl's chihuahua and kills it.

[Cali_Democrat]

Well I guess he was a law-abiding and responsible gun owner....until he wasn't? Or maybe he was just standing his ground?

Either way I'm sure the NRA will call for more guns and licensed "law-abiding" gun owners so that America can be a safer place.

14-year-old Detroit girl says that a neighbor shot and killed JoJo, her 1-year-old Chihuahua, because he wasn’t on a leash and was making too much noise.

The licensed gun owner, however, told police that he gunned down the tiny dog because it was threatening him.

The girl, who WJBK declined to identify, said that she had gone inside for a few minutes while JoJo ran free in the yard. When she came back outside, the neighbor warned her to take the dog back in the house.

“When he saw my dog running out of the bushes, , ‘I’m going to handle him myself,’ and then I guess my dog had run back up on him again, and he just shot him,” the teen recalled as she cradled the dead dog in a blanket.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/04/04/licensed-gun-owner-says-he-killed-1-year-old-chihuahua-for-threatening-him/

[Paul E Ester]

1. sick bastard..nt

[shenmue]

2. How awful

I hope this jerk goes to jail.

[Downwinder]

3. If you are afraid of a two pound chihuahua,

you need to carry a gun.

[tblue]

11. No. You need NOT to carry a gun.

You need serious professional help. I wouldn't want to arm the paranoid and panicky, if that's even what this man was. Obviously he had no business carrying a loaded weapon if he could be scared by a 3 lb doggie. My gosh! That poor puppy and his girl!!!!! She will live with that memory her whole life. She'll need counseling to help her come to terms with this traumatic event, so she doesn't act out in turn. DAMN THIS!!!

[Downwinder]

16. I should have added a sarcasm tag.

I agree completely. I would question whether it was done intentionally to traumatize the girl.

[MotherPetrie]

4. Evil fucker

[oneshooter]

12. Yea, those little dogs can be mean can't they.

[MotherPetrie]

14. I wasn't referring to the dog and I don't think dog murder is the least bit funny

[oneshooter]

17. So what did the dog murder?

[Cali_Democrat]

20. Do you think you're funny?

Because, really, you're not.

[oneshooter]

21. Your opinion, which really doesn't matter to me.

[Cali_Democrat]

42. I don't see anyone else laughing and its been almost a week since you posted it

Looks like you're not cut out for this comedy thing.

[spin]

5. I've was bit by a Chihuahua when I was seven or eight years old. ...

Consequently I personally dislike the breed. I consider them to be barking rats. A Boston Terrier is a much better bread if you wish a small dog. (Note: Just my opinion which is largely influenced by my experience as a child.)

But I would never consider a Chihuahua attack as threatening to my life or health so I wouldn't use my handgun for defense. Of course if I was bit and couldn't find the owner, I might have to get a rabies shot.

[VanillaRhapsody]

51. I have found that a Boston Terrier does not make better bread. ....

I prefer my bread is made by Poodles actually!

[spin]

69. LOL ...Good catch. (n/t)

[ileus]

6. pepper spray would have been a better response.

[oneshooter]

13. Or just the toe of your boot.

[gejohnston]

7. Chihuahua?

What would he do if it were a Doberman named Satan? The most I would use on a dog is pepper spray.

[Jenoch]

8. I wonder what

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a license to shoot chihuahuas costs in Michigan and how high the bag limit is?



(Of course the guy that did this is an idiot and he needs to be prosecuted to the fullest extant of the law. To imply that all 'gun nuts' would do something similar is a cheap shot. How do we know he was a 'gun nut'?)

(I had to make an edit because I accidently wrote 'ia' instead of 'is'. I wouldn't wish to offend anyone with Iowa roots to report me and for a jury to hide my post because of a typo. I recently had a post hidden because of an innocent typo.)

[rrneck]

9. You need a licence to be a gun nut?

Wow. Learn something new every day.

[Cali_Democrat]

10. No....it's just that this gun nut happened to be licensed

What makes him a gun nut? Well any time a tiny dog comes up to you and your first reaction is to pull out a gun and shoot it to death, you're a gun nut.

Yep.

[rrneck]

15. He probably had his idiot licence. nt

[Skip Intro]

18. Some asshole ran over a cat in my nieghborhood a couple of days ago.

Licensed driver, no doubt.

If only we could ban cars...

I love animals, and that jerk who shot the dog should be punished as if he had shot a human, imho.

[Starboard Tack]

22. If the driver intentionally ran over the cat, he should be prosecuted

and lose his DL. A nutjob driving a car is no better than a nutjob with a gun.

[Cali_Democrat]

25. Also, nobody has talked about banning all guns or cars

It's a ridiculous comparison.

[Starboard Tack]

28. Indeed it is

[Straw Man]

38. Absolutely.

If the driver intentionally ran over the cat, he should be prosecuted

and lose his DL. A nutjob driving a car is no better than a nutjob with a gun.

Hey, we agree on something! I think that's twice now.

[Starboard Tack]

39. I'm sure there are lots of things we agree on.

At least I hope so, being of similar political persuasion and all.

[Straw Man]

40. Right.

I meant on the contentious "guns" topic. But yeah, high-five, fist-bump, cheers!

[Starboard Tack]

41. On guns too, though we may differ here and there.

I'm not anti-gun, just anti-stupid where guns are concerned. In a perfect world, we could all have whatever guns we wanted and nobody would ever hurt another person. But in the world we actually live in, too many people are being hurt and killed. So, it's incumbent on those of us who support gun ownership to search for solutions.

[Jenoch]

30. "...should be punished as if he had shot a human..."

Wow, that's hyperbole at its finest.

[Skip Intro]

31. Oh come on, there's way better all over DU. But I mean it.

No reason for animal abuse. None. It is a disgusting crime that indicates a dangerous person who should not be among the general population until he/she is successfully rehabbed, if that is possible.

[Jenoch]

32. No, with that statement

of yours, you're among the best. Of course the idiot should not have shot and killed the dog. But to equate that crime with the murder of a person is ridiculous.

[Skip Intro]

33. You're certainly entitled to your opinion.

As I am to mine.

I wonder what you think the max sentence should be for this coward of a man who shot a small dog.

[Jenoch]

34. I don't know enough

about the Michigan statutes (or any state) on situations like this to make an educated comment. I will make an uneducated comment however. If this guy thought about shooting this little dog before he actually committed the crime, as in premeditation, I do not think he should be sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole.

[Skip Intro]

35. Fair enough.

When put that way, it does seem extreme, but I keep coming back to what a despicable act it is to harm a defenseless animal. People who can do such things need rehab or incarceration. I left the door open for rehab. Our society should make it clear through very tough consequences that animal abuse will not be tolerated. In that regard, punishment should be severe. I might go a bit farther than some on how severe. I have no sympathy for those who'd abuse a defenseless animal.

[Jenoch]

36. I too have no sympathy

for this guy, only contempt.

[Blue_Tires]

23. he needs to be named and shamed

[Eleanors38]

37. I think the "shame game" is being played here in this group...

As if anyone here favors shooting little dogs, as if anyone here is not in favor of prosecuting such, as if anyone here is incapable of sympathy.

[petronius]

24. I hope there's a very careful and thorough investigation here, starting from the premise

that it's extremely unlikely that any adult human (or child, or other dog, or cat, or any living entity larger than an unusually small hamster) could ever be genuinely threatened by a chihuahua. I'll bet that there is a history of bad blood between the families involved, and the shooter simply seized an opportunity. And if that's the case, charges are to be desired: animal cruelty, illegal discharge, whatever...

[dkf]

29. The only dog bite I've ever witnessed was a Chihuahua.

Are you supposed to accept being bitten?

I don't support shooting the dog but that breed seems problematic.

[noiretextatique]

53. and the only alternative to being bitten was to shoot and kill?

a chiihuahua ridiculous, even for you.

[dkf]

57. Obviously not, but that breed...I stay away.

[xchrom]

26. jail time and a fine, please. nt

[gordianot]

27. Even if you are callous about killing a dog that little girl has emotional distress.

Not much need for proof in Court. This situation would make me seriously judgemental regarding the neighbor and am not the type who turns the other cheek.

[bubbayugga]

43. Is this supposed to be some kind of a broad brush smear against all gun owners?

[Tommy_Carcetti]

44. No, it just throws cold water on the idea being pushed by gun enthusiasts that....

....people who legally own their guns are by their nature "good guys" and law abiding citizens, and the only people with guns you have to be worried about are the "criminals" who own them illegally.

Kind of like the "law abiding" legal gun owner who came into my office building last week and proceeded to shoot his wife and himself.

Pretty sure if the idiot in this news story didn't have a gun, that dog would most likely still be alive.

[noiretextatique]

55. nope...just the ones who shoot small dogs

they are afraid of

[BainsBane]

45. If this isn't utter cowardice

I don't know what is.

[Eleanors38]

46. It's certainly old. nt

[Tuesday Afternoon]

64. having gotten tired of beating dead horses ...

you know the rest.

[ManiacJoe]

47. Zombie thread....

[Tuesday Afternoon]

65. looking for brains.

[ladjf]

52. I don't think it was an act of cowardice, rather an excuse to use his weapon to kill something.

[NYC_SKP]

60. More of a bravado move, IMO.

Like the military with a new missile or weapon, the danger for some idiots in having a gun is looking for a reason to use it.

Zimmerman comes to mind.

[BainsBane]

62. Bravado in killing a chihuahua?

Now that's just pathetic.

[NYC_SKP]

66. Sure, a sort of "look what a tough guy I am with this gun".

a pretentious, swaggering display of courage.

Of course it didn't take any legitimate courage, and I probably could have found a better term.

[gopiscrap]

48. Fucking asshole and I don't mean the dog

obviously the gun was an extension of his penis

[sarisataka]

50. You said penis

[Jim__]

49. Afraid of a fucking chihuahua? Undoubtedly an archetypal member of the NRA.

[gejohnston]

56. probably to put on his resume for LAPD

[arcane1]

54. Reminds me of that cop using pepper spray on a baby squirrel

And of course this asshole is apparently in no trouble for this

[petronius]

58. Wow, I had to go look that one up - what a maroon!

I guess I could understand if the little thing was charging everyone, moving like lightning, with blood dripping from its little squirrel fangs or something, but that looked like more of a job for a paper-bag-scooping and a move to the nearest bushes...

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

61. When all you have...

...is a hammer, everything starts to look like a nail.

[NYC_SKP]

59. Tragic and stupid. Going out on a limb here and wishing she'd have used a leash.

She put the dog out then went back into the house, leaving it alone.

There's no excuse for using a gun on this animal that I can imagine and I wish the user had been investigated and arrested for discharging a firearm.

HOWEVER, if you watch the clip, you'll see that the yard has no fence, to to release an animal into your yard and then go back into your house is negligent.

This DOES NOT excuse the act of shooting the little dog, but as the officer explained, it's a lesson in responsible animal ownership and could have and should have been prevented.

NEVER let your dog, big or small, into public without being attached to it by a leash!

Poor dog, poor girl, I hope she gets another one and doesn't repeat the mistake.

(fire away)...

[Tuesday Afternoon]

63. old thread kick

[NYC_SKP]

67. Oh, I hadn't checked. It's from April.

Surely fresher bait can be had!

[Tuesday Afternoon]

68. things must really be slow

over at the castle ...