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mvccd1000

(1,534 posts)
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 01:22 AM Jan 2012

Stop mass killings by instituting a ban...

... on duct tape. Clearly, without the duct tape this father used to rig his van's exhaust into his twin girls' bedroom, there would have been no killing.

Va man channeled exhaust, cut throats of twins

MECHANICSVILLE, Va. (AP) -- A suburban Richmond man going through a custody battle with his estranged wife used duct work to channel the exhaust from a van into a bedroom, where he sliced his neck and those of his twin 3-year-old daughters, authorities said Monday.

The Hanover County Sheriff's Office said the exhaust delivered a lethal amount of carbon monoxide into the home. It said 40-year-old Robert D. King and twins Caroline and Madison King died as a result of either the exhaust or a combination of that and the cuts on their necks.

Deputies were overcome by fumes and had to ventilate the one-story brick ranch home before entering.

Flexible tubing was attached from the exhaust pipe of the vehicle and snaked into the front bedroom, where the three were found dead. Authorities removed duct work, two notes, a video camera and several other items from the home.




(For those who don't see the parallels between my statement and similar statements made by gun control advocates regarding bans on certain types of weapons, or parts, or accessories.)

Banning objects will never prevent killings, or even mass killings.
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Stop mass killings by instituting a ban... (Original Post) mvccd1000 Jan 2012 OP
Mass knifings in one of the most firearm-controlled nations in the world. AtheistCrusader Jan 2012 #1
good point YllwFvr Feb 2012 #12
Banning the tools of mass murder is a noble persuit. Bloberman1959 Jan 2012 #2
Banning the tools of mass murder is a feel-good pursuit. mvccd1000 Jan 2012 #3
first of all I'd have to see a tool of mass murder... ileus Jan 2012 #6
Plenty of tools of mass murder. Remmah2 Jan 2012 #7
No it isn't liberal_biker Jan 2012 #5
Name to me the tools of mass murder that you want banned. oneshooter Jan 2012 #8
Land mines, cluster bombs, and nukes. JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2012 #9
fireworks be damned. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #11
They can have my duct tape if thay can peel it off my cold dead fingers. nt Remmah2 Jan 2012 #4
YES........YES.........ban it TODAY!!!!! oneshooter Jan 2012 #10

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
1. Mass knifings in one of the most firearm-controlled nations in the world.
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 02:34 AM
Jan 2012
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1985834,00.html

Bad people do bad things to other people, with whatever they have at hand, and can inflict devastating injury, without a firearm.

Worse, people copycat other bad people's bullshit.
It's awful, and it needs to stop.


It is best stopped by running out of bad people via attrition. I carry, practice with, and own firearms (other than my hunting rifles) in case, and worse, when I encounter a person that wishes me or mine, harm. If that day comes, I want to win.

If that day comes and I AM NOT THERE to stop it, I want someone else who is armed, and willing to stand up, to do so, and protect others.

Thinking specifically of school, I trust my child's mind and well-being with a teacher, why not with a law-abiding teacher that chooses to arm him or herself? Some shit goes down at my kid's school, I want the comfort of knowing that I bumped into their teacher at the range one day, that they have a CPL and they know what they are doing and THE LAW PERMITS THEM TO CARRY where it will do some good.

YllwFvr

(827 posts)
12. good point
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 09:54 AM
Feb 2012

School shootings are on the rise it seems, but even so they really are pretty rare.

Local police around here take it seriously enough that they are running drills on how to get an active shooter in the schools. My dept hasnt done it. I'm hoping they do, it looks like a blast to train for. As unlikely as it is Id like to feel I could react and know what to do and already know the schools layout.

Bloberman1959

(9 posts)
2. Banning the tools of mass murder is a noble persuit.
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 03:58 AM
Jan 2012

No matter how flippant some may be on the issue of human life.

mvccd1000

(1,534 posts)
3. Banning the tools of mass murder is a feel-good pursuit.
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 08:59 AM
Jan 2012

No matter how righteous some may feel in pursuing those bans.

ileus

(15,396 posts)
6. first of all I'd have to see a tool of mass murder...
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 11:16 AM
Jan 2012

a firearm is for saving lives not taking them...

some are for pleasure and fun, same as a tennis racket or golf club

some are for harvesting game


none were designed to kill.

 

liberal_biker

(192 posts)
5. No it isn't
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 10:19 AM
Jan 2012

Especially when you stop and think about just how many tools may be used for mass murder.

For fuck's sake, McVeigh killed off about 150 people using a van, fertilizer and diesel fuel. Which of those do you want to ban? Then you've got the guys who flew planes into the WTC. Want to ban planes? Jet fuel? Tall buildings?

Banning the "tools" of mass murder is something that makes the ignorant feel better, but does nothing else.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,339 posts)
9. Land mines, cluster bombs, and nukes.
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 04:34 PM
Jan 2012

None of which are generally available at the local gunshop. Not in the display case, anyway.

oneshooter

(8,614 posts)
10. YES........YES.........ban it TODAY!!!!!
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 05:21 PM
Jan 2012

Just think of all the poor ducks you can save from beingTAPED!!!!

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